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Chimpanzee "Personhood" Is Back In Court

sciencehabit writes Chimpanzees are back in court. Judges in New York State heard the first in a series of appeals attempting to grant "legal personhood" to the animals. The case is part of a larger effort by an animal rights group known as the Nonhuman Rights Project (NhRP) to free a variety of creatures—from research chimps to aquarium dolphins—from captivity. If the case is successful, it could grant personhood to chimps throughout the state.

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  1. Re:Does that mean they'll get to vote? by TWX · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They'd make better people than corporations do...

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  2. Re:They'll have rights by markass530 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You just pulled the rights from a a metric fuck ton of mentally & physically handicapped people

  3. Re:Can you marry one? by mjm1231 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are lots of humans you can't legally marry. They pretty much all have one thing in common: they can't legally give consent.

    Also, you really shouldn't look at your sister that way.

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  4. On Grounds of Standing Alone.... by maz2331 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...this case should have been tossed. One can't file on behalf of another (unless they are a legal guardian or hold a power of attorney), and the plaintiffs also can't show any personal harm to themselves.

    If they feel strongly enough about the issue, the remedy is political. Convince enough people that 2/3 of Congress and 3/4 of state legislatures will agree, and pass a Constitutional amendment.

  5. Re:Does that mean they'll get to vote? by arth1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think the right to personhood should be given to anyone who of their own volition can claim the right. And yes, that also means taking it away from many who have it today.
    Including corporations.

    I don't see any non-human lifeforms being able to claim that right. Future computers might, or genetically modified/engineered animals.

    But I believe most animals should still have the protection of being sentient beings, much like we protect infants and retarded people.

  6. Re:Chimps have rights, babies don't by gcnaddict · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh, that's easy.

    Said right-wing groups choke money spent on education standards, teach everyone "abstinence only!" when it's not realistic, etc., which results in people having babies because they had unprotected sex and didn't have the education for how to use contraception. Now that babies are born to people who are poor and didn't have the education to know how to reduce the risk of babies from the one act that could take the stress out of their life, they also can't get welfare, medicaid, etc. because "they aren't carrying their fair share," which forces their kids through poverty, shitty education, a lack of contraception knowledge, more babies, and more kids forced through poverty.

    Honestly, if hard-right-wingers just said "Hey, we believe abortion is wrong, but use contraception to greatly reduce the risk of having a baby!", they might've actually had some support! But their current stance is "you can't use contraception, and you must take care of anybody you bring into this world on your own. We know you can't help but have sex because it's wired into your brain but screw you anyway."

    Independent voter here. I usually vote for moderate Republicans, Independents, or moderate Democrats.

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  7. Re:Does that mean they'll get to vote? by diamondmagic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Corporate personhood refers to the ability to hold a corporation liable for debts and crimes. Are you suggesting I should be able to sue chimps but not corporations?

  8. Re:Does that mean they'll get to vote? by mwvdlee · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm suggesting you should be able to sue the humans responsible for the crimes of a corporation and not sue either chimps or corporations as all.

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