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Chimpanzee "Personhood" Is Back In Court

sciencehabit writes Chimpanzees are back in court. Judges in New York State heard the first in a series of appeals attempting to grant "legal personhood" to the animals. The case is part of a larger effort by an animal rights group known as the Nonhuman Rights Project (NhRP) to free a variety of creatures—from research chimps to aquarium dolphins—from captivity. If the case is successful, it could grant personhood to chimps throughout the state.

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  1. Re:Chimps have rights, babies don't by lgw · · Score: 1, Troll

    What does "pro-life" mean to you?

    The majority of Americans, 58%, are pro-life if you take that to mean "abortion should be legal in only a few circumstances, or outright illegal" (only 39% support legal abortion in "all" or "most" circumstances). Very few of those 58% are "anti-contraception" as that's a fairly extreme religious view (even most Catholics don't buy it).

    Your belief seems to be:
    * Some people support X
    * Some people who support X support Y
    * Therefore, all who support X support Y

    Which makes me wonder if you've ever even thought deeply about the issue.

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  2. Re:Chimps have rights, babies don't by ihtoit · · Score: 1, Troll

    here, I'll fuck your head up:

    Until it has taken its first breath, a fetus has NO RIGHTS. It isn't even a person in the legal sense. It is an "event". A transient condition on a woman. Legally it is in the same class as a cancer. If a court decides it is to be forcibly removed and reared in a whitewall institute, there is NOTHING the mother can say, nothing ANYBODY can say on the matter, the decision is made and nobody can claim to represent the event's rights because a: it is not human and b: it has no rights.

    source: vast legal experience including background in cases similar to the Paccieri baby snatch, where the fetus was taken to order to feed the adoption market.

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