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The CDC Is Carefully Controlling How Scared You Are About Ebola

HughPickens.com writes: Russell Berman reports in The Atlantic that the Obama administration is trying to navigate a tricky course: Can officials increase public vigilance about the deadly Ebola virus without inciting a panic? "Ebola is scary. It's a deadly disease. But we know how to stop it," says Dr. Thomas Frieden, the CDC director. speaking "calmly and clearly, sticking to an even pitch and avoiding the familiar political image of the whip-smart fast-talker." International groups wanted the U.S. to step in sooner to help fight the outbreak in west Africa, while more recently some Republicans have called on the administration to ban travel from the most affected countries.

Frieden and other officials say such a move would be counterproductive, citing lessons learned from the SARS outbreak a decade ago. "The SARS outbreak cost the world more than $40 billion, but it wasn't to control the outbreak," says Frieden. "Those were costs from unnecessary and ineffective travel restrictions and trade changes that could have been avoided." The government announced Wednesday that it was stepping up protective measures at five airports, where authorities will screen travelers from Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea with targeted questions and fever checks, an action, officials acknowledge, that was taken not only to stop the spread of the disease but simply to make people feel safer. According to Berman, the message is this: Be afraid of Ebola. Just not too afraid.

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  1. Increased public vigilance?? by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

    WTF am I supposed to do? Look around for suspicious hemorrhaging people?

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    1. Re:Increased public vigilance?? by i+kan+reed · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Be aware of travelers to west central Africa in your life. Make competent decisions about whether you, yourself should go there. Go to your doctor for any suspicious illness if you have any reason to believe you're exposed at all.

      You know, nothing major.

    2. Re:Increased public vigilance?? by MozeeToby · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you work in an ER and someone comes in sweating and vomiting with a history of travel to Liberia... yes? Is that too much to ask? We just had medical professionals send someone home with classic Ebola symptoms and a history of travel in highly infected regions because of a total lack of vigilance.

    3. Re:Increased public vigilance?? by Stele · · Score: 4, Funny

      I was going to swing by West Central Africa on my way back from my vacation to Syria. Thanks for the warning!

  2. Ebola threat by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The reason Ebola is spreading in Africa is because of poverty and customs. In some places the doctors have run out of gloves. With a disease like Ebola, that is not something you want. Secondly, in some places they have customs like washing the body of the deceased, then having the wife drink the water to prove she didn't try to kill him. Once again, that is not the kind of tradition you want to have if you're going to stop the spread of Ebola.

    Airborne Ebola would be a serious problem. What we have with the current epidemic is an education/sanitation problem, not a disease problem.

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    1. Re:Ebola threat by umafuckit · · Score: 5, Insightful

      DId you hear about the nurse in Spain who got infected? An infected glove brushed her face. It doesn't take outlandish behavior (like corpse water drinking) for this disease to spread.

    2. Re:Ebola threat by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And, if she was wearing any sort of face mask and eye protection (like you are supposed to do), nothing untoward would have happened.

      Contact precautions aren't particularly hard, but they do require a significant degree of vigilance which is not a human being's strong point.

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    3. Re:Ebola threat by MozeeToby · · Score: 5, Insightful

      We do know how to put a stop to it, it's quite easy, all it takes is bio-containment level 4 procedures, that should be easy to slap together in every international airport, seaport, and border crossing to the US. Look, I'm not going to fear monger here, but the fact is that if significant numbers of infected individuals start traveling around the globe we will not be able to maintain containment for long, even with all the resources that ultra-rich 1st world countries have at their disposal. How many beds do you think there are in the entire US that can safely treat Ebola ? I'd be shocked if it's over 1,000 and if the situation in western Africa doesn't change we will very soon see Ebola victims numbering in the millions (by the CDC's own estimates, 1.4 million by the end of January).

      We need to stop pretending that Ebola is no easier to catch than HIV or other pathogens that are carried by the same bodily fluids, those diseases don't typically cause you to leak and eject the infected material all over yourself and the room you are in. A nurse in Spain got sick after possibly touching her face while removing her hazmat suit, when was the last time you heard about someone catching HIV the same way? This whole idea that Ebola is so hard to spread you'd have to be stupid to catch it needs to stop; it's wrong and it's dangerous and it leads to wonderful things like people not bothering to put on gloves and mask to go into a confirmed Ebola patient's apartment (thankfully that deputies tests have come back negative).

    4. Re:Ebola threat by geekmux · · Score: 5, Insightful

      We need to stop pretending that Ebola is no easier to catch than HIV or other pathogens that are carried by the same bodily fluids

      It spreads easier than AIDS, but not as easily as the flue. Because of the way it spreads, it's easy to contain. Look, I'm not the only one saying this here, the head of CDC said it too, if you had even read the summary. But MozeeToby on the internet is worried, so we should all freak out?

      The parent is right. Level 4 containment is exactly what the CDC mandates themselves in order to even study this virus or warehouse it. If it were "easy" to contain, you sure as hell wouldn't have those kinds of insanely expensive precautions being taken to store it in a jar.

      And I sure as hell hope you're not eating those "easy to contain" words 6 months from now.

      And the head of the CDC is like any other elected official. They are not there to start a panic during a crisis, so regardless of the seriousness of it, they are going to downplay it to a level just below widespread speculation and panic, even if the concerns are actually far greater.

  3. Re:The monitoring of passengers is a joke by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "The SARS outbreak cost the world more than $40 billion, but it wasn't to control the outbreak," says Frieden. "Those were costs from unnecessary and ineffective travel restrictions and trade changes that could have been avoided."

    This isn't SARS. The death toll is already 5x that of SARS.

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  4. I should be pretty safe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Finally, my strategy of spending all my time alone at my computer, having no close contact with other people is starting to pay off.

    Once everyone else has died off from ebola, the geeks, nerds, and dorks shall inherit the earth.

  5. Magic Doesn't Help by hedgemage · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People are the same the world over.
    In many communities where Ebola is running rampant, superstition, and a belief in shamanistic or animistic magic are helping spread the disease and prevent proper care.
    And here in the US, I've seen a well-shared Facebook link to a 'natural health' site that tells you how you can get Ebola from ATM keypads and doorknobs, but you can protect yourself via essential oils and the immune system boosting properties of silver! No need for autism creating vaccines!
    I'm so glad I don't live in a place where people think magic potions and mystic talismans will ward off disease!

  6. Re:One quote *is* the story by Wycliffe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm sorry about your friend but ebola scares me ALOT more than the swine flu, h1n1, or sars.
    Shutting down airports for sars was probably a bit of an overkill. Yes, sars is contagious but
    it's also highly survivable. My guess is that your friend was already compromised in some
    way whether it was extremely old, extremely young, weak immune system, etc...
    Until we have an effective cure for ebola (80% survival rate or better), then it's much better
    to be overly cautious with ebola. Can you imagine what would happen if this made it to
    an elementary school where hundreds of kids are in close contact? Give me sars any day.

  7. Re:wont take long till singularity by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 5, Funny

    After the Singularity, we'll get computer viruses and bad OS updates.

  8. Re:Disease spread is fractal by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The aid workers who picked it up despite taking precautions will sure be comforted by your sentiment.

    Even in modern hospitals, disease outbreaks happen despite precautions.

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  9. Re:wont take long till singularity by ganjadude · · Score: 5, Funny

    yes

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  10. Re:HAZMAT Theater Coming To The Airport Nearest Yo by Lord+Kano · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There's a simple way of dealing with that. Don't be a racist nut job. Have actual valid reasons for your positions and keep the outrage to a reasonable level.

    Coming from a person of color, far too often accusations of racism are used to silence legitimate dissent and debate.

    Having valid reason and articulable concerns will not be enough to protect anyone from charges of racism.

    We shouldn't be allowing anyone to enter this country if they have been to a country with an outbreak of any hemorrhagic disease in the past 90 days. For now, that means certain west African nations. The people in Zambia are every bit as black as the ones in Liberia and THEY aren't letting Liberians in.

    Obama himself isn't a lefty, he's a moderate right politician. It's just the racism that blinds so many right wing nutjobs to what Obama is actually doing.

    Depends on your politics. If you're an anti-war lefty, there's not much difference between Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush or Reagan.
    If you're a small government righty, again, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush and Reagan aren't much different.

    Me, I'm a fiscal moderate and a social conservative. There are lightyears between Obama and Bush, from my perspective.

    LK

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  11. He didn't deny them in the hospital. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 4, Informative

    [Hospital sent home the ebola patient in Dallas, though he had classic ebola symptoms and had traveled to Liberia.]

    Yep, especially when they deny all of the screening questions.. That's helpful.

    He denied the screening questions at the airport. ('Let's see. If I answer yes you won't let me fly and will throw me in with everybody else who answered yes. Of COURSE I didn't have contact with Ebola!)

    He DIDN'T deny the questions at the hospital. They knew he'd been to Liberia recently. But their bureaucracy didn't get that info to the person who made the release decision.

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    1. Re:He didn't deny them in the hospital. by pkinetics · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Oh never mind link to news article

      RTFM - in a computerized system, the nurses enter some information about the patient, but that information is not relayed back to the screen that the doctor sees.

      Brilliant.

      That also explains why we have to repeat to the doctor(s) everything we just repeated to all the attending nurses.