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Federal Government Removes 7 Americans From No-Fly List
An anonymous reader writes: In response to a district judge ruling that declared the Department of Homeland Security's Traveler Redress Inquiry Program unconstitutional, the federal government has annouced its removal of seven Americans from its no-fly list (PDF). The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) is representing a total of 13 people suing to get off that list, and the government has until January of this year to deal with remaining six in that group. "Federal agencies have nominated more than 1.5 million names to terrorist watch lists over the past five years alone. Yet being a terrorist isn't a condition of getting on a roster that, until now, has been virtually impossible to be removed from..." One of the seven removed from the list is Marine Corps veteran and dog trainer Ibraheim Mashal of Illinois. The others had similarly Middle-Eastern-sounding names.
1.5 million names on, 7 names off...
Which of those two statistics says that it's no longer "virtually impossible" to get off the list?
I don't see why you need a driver's license if you're not currently driving a car... Children probably get through the checkpoint just fine.
They do. I flew with mine, completely uneventfully, multiple times, prior to admitting an 18th birthday had been reached. Note to self: dishonesty is the second best policy. Despite a school-issued photo-ID, they held my son out of line nearly long enough to cost us all the scheduled flight.
"The rest of you can go on ahead," they said, as if we mighty fly on despite the loss of a teenager. I have been talked to like a five-year-old more times than I care to remember during quality time with the TSA.... an exception to the rule, I am certain.
Does this all mean we'll see a rise in baby-faced terrorism?
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You can't fly without ID because they won't let you through security without it.
Yes, they will.
You sir, are grossly mistaken.
Do you have any idea how many people get their wallet stolen while on vacation, or leave it in a cab on the way to the airport?
People fly without ID every. single. day. The TSA has a nice page on it, but even it uses weasel words like "may not be allowed."
http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-in...
They Q&A you with the same sort of questions you'd need to answer to verify an online credit check (did you live on Mulberry St?), they'll give you an anal probe (excuse me: "Enhanced Screening") and then you'll pass through security unless you can't answer questions about yourself.
So, if you can afford a background check on someone and memorize a few details, you can pretend to fly as them. WHEE!
Just needs to go the fuck away! The Patriot Act is mostly a failure and we're no safer and have significantly less liberties. Another tragic knee-jerk reaction by government results in an abysmal travesty of justice.
What exactly is the point of this odd half-assed sort of category, a "no-fly list"? If the federal government suspects a citizen or resident might be a terrorist, OK, then get a friggin' warrant and bug their phone and search their house and get some real evidence. Since terrorists can do a lot more than hijack airplanes, what's the message here? "We want to prevent you from hijacking an airliner, but a bus is OK?" Either treat them like a suspected terrorist, or just stop hassling them.
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