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Ask Slashdot: Good Hosting Service For a Parody Site?

An anonymous reader writes "Ok, bear with me now. I know this is not PC Mag 2014 review of hosting services. I am thinking of getting a parody website up. I am mildly concerned about potential reaction of the parodee, who has been known to be a little heavy handed when it comes to things like that. In short, I want to make sure that the hosting company won't flake out just because of potential complaints. I checked some companies and their TOS and AUPs all seem to have weird-ass restrictions (Arvixe, for example, has a list of unacceptable material that happens to list RPGs and MUDS ). I live in U.S.; parodee in Poland. What would you recommend?"

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  1. hosting for parody by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    I run a small ISP. I can host it for you. Let me know how much bandwidth you expect to pull and we can work something out. brock at the domain blackmesawireless daht net.

    1. Re:hosting for parody by ericloewe · · Score: 4, Funny

      "...
      Maybe you'll find someone else to help you...
      Maybe Black Mesa.

      That was a joke, HA HA, fat chance. ..."

    2. Re: hosting for parody by hawkeyeMI · · Score: 2

      That was me and I'm completely serious. But it sounds like that nearly free speech site is just like what the OP is looking for.

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  2. parodee in Poland by fustakrakich · · Score: 3, Funny

    Gee, who woulda guessed? Are Polish jokes still in vogue?

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  3. nearlyfreespeech.net by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    nearlyfreespeech.net

    1. Re:nearlyfreespeech.net by atfrase · · Score: 2

      This is my recommendation also. Never had any issue with their service, billing models are very straightforward, and their philosophy specifically embraces things like parody sites (within the law).

  4. Bahnhof, Sweden by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    https://www.bahnhof.net/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahnhof

    Swedish hoster. They have a credible commitment to freedom of speech. They have secretly recorded and leaked conversations with the SIGINT pressuring them to share data. They have provided hosting for WikiLeaks in the past. Also, they have been hosting a controversial Swedish serivce named Lexbase, essentially publishing the names of all persons occurring in Swedish court documents. They refused to shut it down for several days, until it was hacked and shut down due to security issues.

  5. What I recommend by OzPeter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Based on this

    I am mildly concerned about potential reaction of the parodee, who has been known to be a little heavy handed when it comes to things like that.

    I recommend a good lawyer.

    See Beck v. Eiland-Hall as to why.

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    1. Re: What I recommend by hawkeyeMI · · Score: 2

      That seemed to come out in favour of the satirist.

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    2. Re: What I recommend by OzPeter · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That seemed to come out in favour of the satirist.

      IMHO only because of the lawyer backing him up.

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    3. Re: What I recommend by hawkeyeMI · · Score: 2

      Yes, at the point a suit was filed, the lawyer was needed. But the author appears to have made a solid decision before the lawyer was needed.

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    4. Re: What I recommend by tnk1 · · Score: 2

      I'm hearing that this person wants to criticize someone in Poland who likes Putin. I'm guessing Russia is not actually a good choice here.

      Russia is only better when you aren't doing something that directly opposes Russian interests. If you are opposing Russian interests, you'd probably have better luck in China.

      Russia doesn't protect free speech, they just allow things to be hosted that piss off countries they don't like. That looks like free speech only to those who the Russian government likes or doesn't give a shit about.

  6. Re:iPage by lgw · · Score: 5, Informative

    nearlyfreespeech.net.

    They actually fight back against takedown notices. They know they're a US site and give 0 fucks what foreign governments think of your content. They have a sense of humor (anyone have the link to their response letter about badgers?). Seems perfect for you.

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  7. Re:iPage by lgw · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ah, here it is (PDF warning). It was linked from that blog post. Teach me to post before coffee!

    On the general subject of badgers, we definitely do see cause for concern. It is at this point well-known among frequent Internet users -- including us -- that the rapid
    proliferation of "badger, badger, badger" leads -- inevitably -- to mushrooms and, if left unchecked, a very frightening snake, in a vicious cycle with no apparent end. That
    definitely seems like a concern worthy of the attention of a large UK government agency like DEFRA. We have and offer no official position on the proposed DEFRA response to the badger menace that you outline in your letter.

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  8. 1984 Hosting in Iceland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    https://1984hosting.com/ - they have defended their customers freedom of speech all the way up to the highest court in Iceland numerous times.

  9. steadfast.net - home of SomethingAwful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    SomethingAwful is over at Steadfast.net, who has a rather first-amendment heavy interpretation of most laws. I know first-hand how their abuse desk works, and they'll allow practically anything that's not explicitly illegal.

  10. weak link isn't the host by SethJohnson · · Score: 4, Informative

    Any organization attacking your published site will send DMCA emails to the hosting / bandwidth provider, but will also attack the DNS registrar for copyright violation. That's going to be the more difficult one to choose because there are a finite number of registrars and they all want to cover-their-ass against ICAAN violations.

  11. Technical solution for s social problem by houghi · · Score: 3, Informative

    What you are looking for is a technical solution for a social problem.

    First you must look at what they will most likely try to charge you with. Is it copyright related or rather defamation. Second is to look who they are related to and estimate how far they are willing to go.

    You can look worldwide, not only in the US. Look where Torrent sites are hosted. That would be a good start. Also look where similar sites are hosted.

    And be prepared that things will go down at one point, so have a backup plan available. e.g. a running mirror that is not visible, but will be the moment your main site goes down. You can even have a 'site went down because of ...' prepared already to handle the Streisant effect.

    I would look also carefully into the TLD you are going to pick. com, net and org might seem fine, but might also be easy to delete.

    Last but not least, look if it is realy worth the trouble. Will they make life hard for people you have contact with in Poland? Also: Don't be disapointed if nobade cares.

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  12. How about by linear+a · · Score: 3, Funny

    Fox?

  13. You should ... by PPH · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... check with Dice and see where they host Slashdot. That's a pretty good parody of a news site.

    [Ducking and running]

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  14. CloudFlare by Z80xxc! · · Score: 3, Informative

    The host is important and has been covered extensively, but you should also put your site behind CloudFlare. They'll protect against DDOS attacks, and it makes it harder for the parodied party to determine who the host even is if the entire site is behind CloudFlare. They have a long history of not taking things down just because somebody finds it objectionable. And, you get free SSL with CloudFlare too.

  15. Hosting in the EU by DF5JT · · Score: 2

    I recommend https://www.syseleven.de/ for a number of reasons:

    * Technically highly sophisticated staff whose motto is "Hosting done right"
    * Located in Germany (Berlin) with laws applicable in the EU
    * Motivated staff in terms of looking at content from a data protection POV
    * Staff is known not to budge from unsubstantiated threats
    * They will tell you whether your content is legally acceptable

    Won't get any better than that.

  16. Re: Polish by qpqp · · Score: 2

    I just think they want to avoid being a puppet state

    Tough luck being in the EU, though.

    Germany isn't currently attempting to do anything like that.

    Seems like Germany is controlling the economic direction currently, so yeah, not overtly, but they have to do their bidding more or less.

  17. DIY? by Thumper_SVX · · Score: 2

    Seriously, why not do it yourself? You can get a pretty cheap virtual host from any number of providers and just do it. You don't even have to manage the entire server, plenty of virtual hosting services too... but personally I'd recommend doing the entire server. My Linode is cheap as hell and provides a great place to host my mail and web host, as well as providing a hub for my VPN network. Yes, I have to manage it as well, but apart from the occasion patches I don't really do much with it once it was all set up except use it.