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Brain Patterns Give Clues To Why Some People Just Keep Gambling

Research from several UK universities, as reported by Time, indicates that the brain activity of compulsive gamblers shows a marked difference in response to pleasure-triggering behavior, which may help explain why they have trouble stopping: [The participants] took an amphetamine capsule, which unleashes endorphins with similar effects to the rush you get from exercise or alcohol, the study says. An additional PET scan revealed that pathological gamblers responded differently to the drug. They released fewer endorphins than those who didn't gamble, and they also reported lower levels of euphoria on a questionnaire afterward. This might help explain the addictive part of pathological gambling: to get pleasure from the act, problem gamblers might need more of it or to work harder for it.

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  1. Or gamblers are masochists. by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2

    After all, they seem to get off on losing.

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    1. Re:Or gamblers are masochists. by Teresita · · Score: 4, Interesting

      There's no brain patterns involved at all, it's a simple delusion rooted in statistical bias. You only remember the good times when you won, and you erase the bad times when you lost. So you think the casino is a money tree. And thus casinos pay their light bill. That's also why people play Powerball, they only hear stories about the people who hit the jackpot, never stories about not hitting it.

    2. Re:Or gamblers are masochists. by Fwipp · · Score: 2, Funny

      "No brain patterns involved at all"

      I am not sure you know what a brain is?

    3. Re:Or gamblers are masochists. by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's also why people play Powerball, they only hear stories about the people who hit the jackpot, never stories about not hitting it.

      Yes, there's something I find distasteful about states running lotteries for this reason. It's basically a tax on the stupid. Sure, some people play for entertainment. But I personally have known a few lottery addicts who were poor or senior citizens, and they'd shell out literally thousands of dollars each year on lottery tickets. (If only they would invest that money instead....)

      And, as I always tell people: I never buy lottery tickets, but I only have a VERY slightly less chance of winning than the addicts. In fact, anecdotally this proved true for me in the past few years -- some members of my family have bought lottery scratch tickets as stocking stuffers. I've received fewer than 10 of these over the past few years, but I've won on 4 of them... Totaling $175. The last year this happened, I had a $100 ticket (more than anyone else in the family ever got, including one person who buys tickets regularly), and someone gave me another cast off that day, and I got $20 more.

      And yet, I have absolutely no desire to buy more tickets...I took the money and enjoyed it. Same thing one of the few times I was in a casino (and the only time I gambled)... My father gave me $25 to play some slot machines with, so after spending about $7, I hit $50. I gave my dad back his $25, took the $40+ profit, and I've never played again.

      Thus, if you're going to gamble, I highly recommend using someone else's money. It's proven lucky for me. :)

  2. Re:Regulation or Legislation? by kruach+aum · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Given the current state of psychology research, "when the results have been independently replicated and have been shown not to be statistical artifacts, cherry picking, or outright fraud" would be a good first step.

  3. Experience by JimSadler · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As far as i know i have only known one person addicted to gambling. His personality was marked by acute depression, a desire to look good to others, a tendency towards violence and a tendency to commit serious crimes such as burglary or armed robbery. He lived in misery all his life although there were times when crime paid him rather well. His background and up bringing were awful but to me his difficulties looked like a brain disorder. Sadly his type of personality does not ask for mental health treatment. And I can see why anything short of long term observation in a controlled environment would reveal his personality. He could be charming and was good at manipulating people. It has to be some form of depression very similar to manic depression when on the dark side of the illness.

  4. Glad this can't happen to me by nbauman · · Score: 2

    You don't suppose people get the same response to surfing the Internet, do you?

    1. Re:Glad this can't happen to me by PPH · · Score: 2

      Please don't take away my Google "I'm feeling lucky" button.

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  5. Re:Predictable responses by Tanktalus · · Score: 2

    Really, it doesn't matter if the brain lacks free will. We necessarily must presume it does for our legal system to have any effect. It doesn't matter whether you're a thief or a diagnosed kleptomaniac, either way we need to find a way to keep you away from the personal property of others. Sure, the methods used may change, but we've determined (whether through free will or some reasonably complete facsimile thereof) that this is not acceptable behaviour in our society, and it must be caught and removed.

  6. Or are pathological gamblers just habituated? by swb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Did they always need more gambling to achieve some baseline satisfaction or have they just gotten habituated to gambling and it merely takes more stimulus for them to achieve the same effect? Have they developed a tolerance through frequent gambling or have they always needed more gambling since they started?

    I would think since lots of experiences become less appealing after a while and need to be done in more intense ways to get the same "fun" out of them that pathological gamblers may be reacting in the same way.

    Yet maybe some people are ALWAYS that way, no experience is intense enough unless it's done in some extreme way -- your so-called adrenaline junkies. It's not enough to ski down a mountain, you have to heli-ski into some mountainous backcountry in Kazakhstan riding an avalanche the last half of the run. Maybe gambling just isn't enough, they have to play for big stakes on money borrowed from a loanshark or embezzled from their employer.

    I kind of curious about the dislike of gambling. I have nothing against gambling morally, but I just can't do it even though some of the games like craps can be fun as games and have odds that are about as favorable as they come in most casinos. Yet I like most other adrenaline activities.

  7. It *can* go further than _that_ by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When are things like this going to start being used for good and bad ways? i.e. Your honor, my client is susceptible to gambling, so this should/should not be taking into account during sentencing. That is, if he is susceptible, he shouldn't be anywhere near a gambling table etc. This is the problem I see with comprehensive data. Correlations happen by coincidence all the time and humans are downright lousy at statistics, intuition and perception

    As one who runs several businesses while investing in many others I can tell you that the "gambling mentality" can very much be applied to business as well

    Many of the Silicon Valley upstarts do not even deserve one single penny of investments for their founders' strategy are so wrong, so narrow, and so stupid, but yet, they regularly got million-dollar injection because someone take a chance

    You may think that many of the "angel investors" are seasoned investors, that whenever they "take a chance" they knew what they were doing. The reality however, is that many of those investments are based on nothing more than what TFA has pointed out, a "response to pleasure-triggering behavior"

    Yes, I have had my own moments and I have invested my good money into rotten useless duds

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  8. Re: nanny state by xaxa · · Score: 2

    Gambling is much more common in the UK, most activity is legal (and taxed), and the problems are treated roughly as alcohol problems are.

  9. Re:Similar Work by PPH · · Score: 2

    I'lll see your bet and raise you the possibility that this therapy will just be abused by opiate addicts.

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  10. Re:Regulation or Legislation? by techno-vampire · · Score: 2

    Anyway, since when was it necessary to study brain patterns to establish if someone is a compulsive gambler?

    If you have to ask that question, you've not understood what the study was about. It's not about trying to find out if people are compulsive gamblers, it's about why they are.

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  11. Conditioning by hairykrishna · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have often wondered if some kind of boredom conditioning could help with gambling addiction.

    My idle thought is based on experience my brother and I had about a decade ago while undergraduates. Around this time the online casino business was extraordinarily competitive and they were offering rather large incentives to sign up and play. At this time, although not any more, the terms and conditions of these bonuses were such that you could claim them, wager the minimum amount they mandated and withdraw a large proportion of the free money they had given you. Of course, to be profitable, you had to play a very short list of games with a low house edge and stick absolutely rigidly to the optimum playing strategy.

    Over one summer this was our 'job'. Between us we gambled a cumulative total of many hundreds of thousands of dollars. Even accounting for various sites where we wrote software to do it for us, we played more blackjack than the vast majority of people ever will in their lives. To start with it was very exciting as the variance ensures a rollercoaster of upswings and downswings. By the end it was just another massively boring data entry job as we'd seen regression to the mean work its magic so many times. Neither of us ever wanted to see a casino game ever again.

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