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Debian's Systemd Adoption Inspires Threat of Fork

New submitter Tsolias writes It appears that systemd is still a hot topic in the Debian community. As seen earlier today, there is a new movement shaping up against the adoption of systemd for the upcoming stable release [of Debian], Jessie. They claim that "systemd betrays the UNIX philosophy"; it makes things more complex, thus breaking the "do one thing and do it well" principle. Note that the linked Debian Fork page specifically says that the anonymous developers behind it support a proposal to preserve options in init systems, rather than demanding the removal of systemd, and are not opposed to change per se. They just don't want other parts of the system to be wholly dependent on systemd. "We contemplate adopting more recent alternatives to sysvinit, but not those undermining the basic design principles of "do one thing and do it well" with a complex collection of dozens of tightly coupled binaries and opaque logs."

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  1. Re:That's all we need ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    There are too many competing standards. Clearly what we need is a new, unified standard. ;-)

  2. Re:And this is why Linux will never win the deskto by 0123456 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Linus is NOT good for the desktop or average user.

    Is Linus the Linux version of Microsoft Bob? I'd agree, then, that the average user wouldn't want him swearing at them every time they do something stupid.

    Most people just want something that works out of the box, even if there are a lot of tradeoffs.

    So why would they want Window 8?

  3. Re:And this is why Linux will never win the deskto by 0123456 · · Score: 4, Funny

    There's Window 8, and Window 8.1. There's 32-bit or 64-bit. There's Windows 7. There's about half a dozen different versions of Windows 7, and I've no idea how many of Window 8.

    There's the XP interface. There's the Windows 7 interface. There's the Window 8 desktop interface. There's the Window 8.1 desktop interface. There's the Metro interface.

    How can anyone expect someone to pick Windows for their desktop when there's so much fragmentation?

  4. In Soviet Russia .... by PPH · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... systemd forks you!

    Come to think of it ....

    --
    Have gnu, will travel.
  5. Re:And this is why Linux will never win the deskto by myrdos2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    My Linus just worked right out of the box. You have to get past the F--- You! if you have NVidia graphics, and the prickly user interface that periodically tells you you're a moron.

    At least it's better than my Stallman. That thing ate something off the bottom of it's foot while I was giving a presentation. Yechh.

  6. Re:And this is why Linux will never win the deskto by ericloewe · · Score: 5, Funny

    I disagree. Having Linus yelling expletives at your average PC user would go along way towards educating them or scaring them away from computers.
    The end result is the same in either case.

  7. Re:And this is why Linux will never win the deskto by aaaaaaargh! · · Score: 5, Funny

    The average user also has about one tit, one ball and half a penis. Just wanted to mention that.

  8. Re:That's all we need ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    It is undesired by anyone with an intelligence quotient over 4.

    There now, I fixed that for you, and I typed it real slow like since I know you don't read very well.