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Isaac Asimov: How Do People Get New Ideas?

HughPickens.com writes: Arthur Obermayer, a friend of the Isaac Asimov, writes that he recently rediscovered an unpublished essay by Asimov written in 1959 while cleaning out some old files. Obermayer says it is "as broadly relevant today as when he wrote it. It describes not only the creative process and the nature of creative people but also the kind of environment that promotes creativity." Here's an excerpt from Asimov's essay, which is well worth reading in its entirety:

"A person willing to fly in the face of reason, authority, and common sense must be a person of considerable self-assurance. Since he occurs only rarely, he must seem eccentric (in at least that respect) to the rest of us. A person eccentric in one respect is often eccentric in others. Probably more inhibiting than anything else is a feeling of responsibility. The great ideas of the ages have come from people who weren't paid to have great ideas, but were paid to be teachers or patent clerks or petty officials, or were not paid at all. The great ideas came as side issues."
A couple more quotes:

"My feeling is that as far as creativity is concerned, isolation is required. The creative person is, in any case, continually working at it. His mind is shuffling his information at all times, even when he is not conscious of it. The presence of others can only inhibit this process, since creation is embarrassing. For every new good idea you have, there are a hundred, ten thousand foolish ones, which you naturally do not care to display."

"Presumably, the process of creativity, whatever it is, is essentially the same in all its branches and varieties, so that the evolution of a new art form, a new gadget, a new scientific principle, all involve common factors. It is only afterward that a new idea seems reasonable. What is needed is not only people with a good background in a particular field, but also people capable of making a connection between item 1 and item 2 which might not ordinarily seem connected. To begin with, it usually seems unreasonable. It seems the height of unreason to suppose the earth was round instead of flat, or that it moved instead of the sun, or that objects required a force to stop them when in motion, instead of a force to keep them moving, and so on."

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  1. Gosh! A friend of THE Isaac Asimov! by Kittenman · · Score: 2

    Not just the common-or-garden Isaac Asimov, but THE Isaac Asimov !!!

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  2. Re:Isaac Asimov never heard by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2

    Who cares? He wasn't writing about genius (or mimicking it), but about creativity and the ability to see relationships or make connections where others haven't.

    intelligence without creativity is a dead end, sterile.

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  3. Bell Labs by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The great ideas of the ages have come from people who weren't paid to have great ideas, but were paid to be teachers or patent clerks or petty officials, or were not paid at all. The great ideas came as side issues.

    I'd really feel better if he had some actual data here, instead of speculation. The legacy of Bell Labs kind of runs contrary to this idea, because they were not only paid to come up with ideas, but also told to come up with ideas that would be profitable. Then there were the guys in the Advanced Institute who got paid to do nothing else but come up with great ideas.

    The only thing I would even dare venture to guess is that the great ideas of the ages have come from people who were looking for things, even if they found something other than what they were looking for (like Penicillin).

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    1. Re:Bell Labs by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 4, Informative

      The legacy of Bell Labs kind of runs contrary to this idea, because they were not only paid to come up with ideas, but also told to come up with ideas that would be profitable.

      And yet C and Unix came about because someone wanted to play games.

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    2. Re:Bell Labs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wow, such a bad case of feature creep.

    3. Re:Bell Labs by calexontheroad66 · · Score: 2

      There is probably something of a myth of people being paid to have great ideas, most research started as a means to sort out a particular problem that branched into a new field by chance. People didn't intended to have great ideas they ended up stumbling on them, either by doing their work, luck or by having a particular keen interest and curiosity.
      On the side of the status quo, researchers are only valuable if they are coming up with work that can have some usefulness.
      This might be a statement of status of having a bunch of researchers as pets, to sort out a nagging problem like getting a reliable star chart for navigation, or that there is a conflict and every edge one can get is essential.
      For example, the people that came up with C and Unix didn't told management what they were up to initially.

  4. Re:Creativity vs Common Sense by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think actually the article would be more accurately titled,

    How I Get New Ideas
    By Isaac Asimov
    It worked for him.

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  5. Disapproval of creativity as expressed in copyrigh by tepples · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Asimov wrote:

    The world in general disapproves of creativity

    We can see evidence of this in how copyright treats derivative works. All works build on other works, as Asimov wrote when he described connecting A to B to C, yet some forms of such building are forbidden by law.

  6. Re:Creativity vs Common Sense by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2

    The dude who invented the round wheel didn't invent the wheel by "resist common sense", or did he?

    If everyone else is rolling heavy loads on logs, and someone else figures out that it's better to just use two sections of logs and another smaller one as an axle, well, that's going against common sense. Until you figure out how to use two or more of these supporting a platform and throwing a bit of bear fat on the "axles" as lube and actually show them your new cart ...

    ... because if you just described it to them, they'd just shake their heads and roll their eyes.

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  7. Re:Disapproval of creativity as expressed in copyr by tepples · · Score: 2

    So maybe you need to be more creative to find a way that doesn't infringe the law :-)

    But how can a layman know where the line is for a particular use? The uncertainty itself has a chilling effect on creativity.

  8. Re:Creativity vs Common Sense by gl4ss · · Score: 2

    so you're skeptic of the skeptics? skeptics of what?

    or what the fuck? maybe light too travelled distance per year in Noahs time? that kind of thing?

    the problem with saying that people who go against common logic and science are creative geniuses is that.. the more time goes on and the better the established science goes, the more of the people who are skeptical of science are just morons - not creative geniuses. and there's a lot of morons with too high self confidence and self esteem filling up the youtubes already with all kinds of crap theories - that is to say that a moron with high self confidence is a pretty common sight.

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  9. Re:Gosh! A friend of THE Isaac Asimov! by gstoddart · · Score: 2

    but THE Isaac Asimov !!!

    El Senior Isaac Asimov. :-P

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  10. Well worth reading? by Jack9 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    > Asimov's essay, which is well worth reading in its entirety:

    No, it isn't. John Cleese's thoughts on the matter are much more thoughtful and thought provoking. He's had a lifetime to consider it. Although he didn't make much progress, it was more than Asimov.

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    1. Re:Well worth reading? by ediron2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Both are good. Interestingly, Asimov's contrived sinecure/forum resembles the BBC comedy writing teams decades ago: a paycheck, a roomful of brilliance, a target (funny but broadcastable) and free reign to be as ludicrous as is needed. Doug Adams, Monty Python, Laurie & Fry, The Young Ones -- all describe their BBC time very warmly. Ditto friends from

      Oh, and you most remind me of someone who says '... and I *have* a sense of humor.'

    2. Re:Well worth reading? by ediron2 · · Score: 2

      > Asimov's essay, which is well worth reading in its entirety:

      No, it isn't. John Cleese's thoughts on the matter are much more thoughtful and thought provoking.

      Even if Cleese's work is more insightful than Asimov's, it doesn't make Asimov's uninteresting or not worth reading.

      Yeah, that comment brings to mind folks that insist they are arbiters of funny, and that they *have* a sense of humor.

      Except this time people are trying to nail something inchoate down and they're back behind everyone's shoulder saying 'no, you're all wrong.'

  11. Sinecures. by westlake · · Score: 2

    The great ideas of the ages have come from people who weren't paid to have great ideas, but were paid to be teachers or patent clerks or petty officials, or were not paid at all.

    There is a long tradition of finding secure but undemanding jobs for creative talents who, for political or ideological reasons, could not be subsidized openly.

  12. Re:Isaac Asimov never heard by AK+Marc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Common Sense is the opposite of creativity. Common Sense is generalizing information into convenient packages, without critical thought. That's just common sense is used as a reason to not think. Creativity is ignoring the standard and seeing it as new. Common sense may be useful sometimes, but it's not "creative".

  13. Re:Gosh! A friend of THE Isaac Asimov! by binarstu · · Score: 2

    I wonder if he was also a friend of the Bruce Dickinson. The secret to creativity is... more cowbell.

  14. Re:Gosh! A friend of THE Isaac Asimov! by Thanshin · · Score: 2

    I don't often Isaac Asimov.

    But when I do, it's The Isaac Asimov.

  15. Edward de Bono by codeButcher · · Score: 2

    Not much different from Edward de Bono's writings on Lateral Thinking, which of course go into somewhat more depth and systematize a method for doing the creative/lateral thinking.

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  16. Re:He, Him, His by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 3, Informative

    Back then, people generally wrote "his", "he" etc when writing about people, male and female, in general. They did not need to qualify every single reference to a person with (m/f), or write his/her instead of his, the way we do these days, verbally bending over backwards to avoid the dreaded accusation of misogyny.

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  17. Re:He, Him, His by tehcyder · · Score: 2

    Didn't someone call Henry James a female Jane Austen?

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  18. Re:Isaac Asimov never heard by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    A failure to understand humanity. All things have their place in the social cooperative effort that is humanity. Intelligence, common sense and creativity. Creativity comes from people willing to do nothing more than spending a great deal of time sitting and thinking, why because due to genetics their brains directly reward them with desirably brain chemicals for sitting and thinking.

    Creativity is the primary problem-solving skill. It's a prerequisite for civilization, not a result of it. The default means of solving problems is to bash it with a rock. Even bash it with a stick required creativity, the first time anyway. After that, good old imitation would do.

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  19. Re:Gosh! A friend of THE Isaac Asimov! by Rob+Riggs · · Score: 2

    Nobody expects the grammar inquisition!

    You haven't been on /. long if you didn't expect the grammar inquisition.

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  20. Re:Gosh! A friend of THE Isaac Asimov! by Thanshin · · Score: 2

    Mod parent up for being absolutely fabulous. Those Dos Equis ad references never get old.

    I wouldn't say "never". I agree that they don't get old often.

    But when they do...

  21. Re:Isaac Asimov never heard by GTRacer · · Score: 2

    He was "essay-izing" the plot of his novella, Sucker Bait, written 5 years earlier. Its entire premise is based on a corps of "Mnemonics" who are trained from birth to seek correlations in data. They do this with the full knowledge that these unexpected connections are what drives progress.

    I read the essay yesterday and the first thought I had was, "sounds like that one book of his." God I miss his storytelling...

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