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Austin Airport Tracks Cell Phones To Measure Security Line Wait

jfruh writes If you get into the TSA security line at Austin-Bergstrom International Airport, you'll see monitors telling you how long your wait will be — and if you have a phone with Wi-Fi enabled, you're helping the airport come up with that number. A system implemented by Cisco tracks the MAC addresses of phones searching for Wi-Fi networks and sees how long it takes those phones to traverse the line, giving a sense of how quickly things are moving. While this is useful information to have, the privacy implications are a bit unsettling.

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  1. Not sure about this one by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Its not like they don't already know where you are when you are entering airport security.

    1. Re:Not sure about this one by maliqua · · Score: 4, Insightful

      and its not like your mac address isn't seen by the access points and likely logged anyway simply organizing the information they alerady have to provide other useful insights

    2. Re:Not sure about this one by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

      and its not like your mac address isn't seen by the access points and likely logged anyway

      Indeed. Articles like this are not just stupid, they are harmful. By declaring every routine event to be "privacy violation", they are creating confusion and "outrage fatigue" which leads to apathy about the real violations of privacy that people should actually care about.

  2. Opt out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Don't use the FREE effing wifi, if you don't like it. If you're not paying for the product, you are the product.

  3. Simple solution by acoustix · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Turn off wi-fi. Done.

    You can be tracked anywhere anytime you're using a communication radio. Deal with it.

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  4. Re:A bit???? by Nidi62 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And, it's not like you can opt out .. unless you simply don't fly.

    ...if you have a phone with Wi-Fi enabled

    You could always just, you know, turn off wifi on your phone.

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  5. Sounds legit by Charliemopps · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm a huge privacy advocate... but how far are we going to go with this?
    You're in a public place.
    You're connecting to their network at various points.
    They're using that info to figure out how long it takes for you to get through the line.

    How is this any different than them using your check ins with your boarding pass?

    "I just dumped the entire contents of my luggage in the middle of food court. I appreciate the offer to help me pick it up bu how dare you invade my privacy!"

  6. Re:A bit???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sigh. Ok people, let me explain something ... if your cell phone is on, you are being tracked. You always have been. The cell towers have to communicate with your phone, and therefore you are always being tracked.

    This particular instance of tracking (by noting with a MAC address enters/leaves an area) is no more invasive than what has been happening at the airport for decades with the cameras that are up at every airport everywhere. Tracking a MAC address doesn't indicate who you are or give them access to any information about you as an individual.

    Furthermore, if you have your WiFi on, you are again always locatable. If you really think that someone someone being able to know that MAC 00:11:22:33:44:55:66 has left the building is an invasion of privacy, turn off your phone - or better yet don't have a cell phone, because you are being tracked and inspected in far more invasive ways than that if you have a cell phone.

  7. Re:A bit???? by sahuxley · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Nobody is forcing you to connect to the airport WIFI network. It's just as disturbing to me that you think you should have the right to data on someone else's network just because you use it. If you were paying for such a right and had a contract in place, I could see that. But you are not, and therefore you have no right to tell them what they can and can not do with that data. It's not just you, people all over are using free services and then claiming they have a right to tell the providers what to do with the data those services collect.

  8. Privacy? This is the ID and BODY SCAN line by raymorris · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Certainly I don't want them to know I have a cell phone, that would be an invasion of my privacy while I wait in line for my NAKED BODY SCAN, right after I hand them my government-issued ID. There are privacy invasions happening there, but they aren't wifi related.

  9. Re:A bit???? by Obscene_CNN · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the privacy implications are a bit unsettling

    A bit????

    No, the privacy implications of this are downright creepy. Because the most unsettling thing is governments and corporations feel they have a right to this information.

    And, it's not like you can opt out .. unless you simply don't fly.

    And, then what does Cisco et al do with this information? Oh, right, sell it for profit.

    Assholes.

    They A) Already know you have a flight booked B) Already know where you are going. C) When you check in, they know you are there. If you want privacy of how long you are waiting in line. Don't broadcast your location over the air waves with a transmitter.

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  10. Re:A bit???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You are dumb.

  11. Re:A bit???? by AaronLS · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The manufacturer of your phone already knows your mac address. It has no value to anyone else beyond the first network hop. You like the author are an idiot who knows nothing about MAC addresses.

  12. Re:A bit???? by tlhIngan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, the privacy implications of this are downright creepy. Because the most unsettling thing is governments and corporations feel they have a right to this information.

    And, it's not like you can opt out .. unless you simply don't fly.

    And, then what does Cisco et al do with this information? Oh, right, sell it for profit.

    Assholes.

    Well, I fail to see how people taking note of information that you're basically shouting out loud to everyone around you can be considered creepy.

    I mean, you phone is basically saying "Hi I'm John Smith the <48 bit MAC ID> and I'm looking for WiFi, anyone offering some?" over and over again.

    So you're saying it's not right for someone to overhear it and write that down? "I just heard a John Smith out there".

    You must be real fun at parties when people overhear your conversations.

  13. Put away the tinfoil hat and turn your radio off by sjbe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, the privacy implications of this are downright creepy. Because the most unsettling thing is governments and corporations feel they have a right to this information.

    If you are in an airport your are IN PUBLIC. Your privacy rights are significantly reduced when you are in public. You have no legal expectation of privacy in public. There is nothing remotely creepy about this. In fact I actually think this is a fairly clever use of the technology which allows people to easily opt out if desired.

    And, it's not like you can opt out .. unless you simply don't fly.

    There is an incredibly easy solution. Turn off your Wifi. Tada! Problem solved. If you have Wifi turned on then you are quite literally broadcasting your presence to anyone who cares to listen. It's like shouting at the top of your lungs in the airport and then telling everyone you have no way to opt out. YOU are the one broadcasting. It is YOUR choice. If you don't want people to listen then turn off your radio.

  14. Re:A bit???? by Zaphod+The+42nd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Its literally no different than somebody watching the airport cameras and counting how many people go through security each hour. Who cares?

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