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How To Beat Online Price Discrimination

New submitter Intrepid imaginaut sends word of a study (PDF) into how e-commerce sites show online shoppers different prices depending on how they found an item and what the sites know about the customer. "For instance, the study found, users logged in to Cheaptickets and Orbitz saw lower hotel prices than shoppers who were not registered with the sites. Home Depot shoppers on mobile devices saw higher prices than users browsing on desktops. Some searchers on Expedia and Hotels.com consistently received higher-priced options, a result of randomized testing by the websites. Shoppers at Sears, Walmart, Priceline, and others received results in a different order than control groups, a tactic known as “steering.” To get a better price, the article advises deleting cookies before shopping, using your browser's private mode, putting the items in your shopping cart without buying them right away, and using tools like Camelcamelcamel to keep an eye out for price drops.

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  1. Do not browse on a Liinux desktop! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was trying to shop for resorts on my Linux box here and I got a popup stating, "There's nothing here you can afford.Try Six Flags during the work week."

    True story.

  2. Insight from Bennett Haselton by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    As a frequent flyer, I too could benefit from defeating their price tricks, but really before I draw any conclusions of my own I'm wondering do we have any word from Bennett Haselton. Any insight of his would be appreciated on this topic. He's a frequent contributor.

  3. Contradiction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "For instance, the study found, users logged in to Cheaptickets and Orbitz saw lower hotel prices"

    "To get a better price, the article advises deleting cookies before shopping"

    Ummm, what?

    1. Re:Contradiction by dunkindave · · Score: 4, Informative

      The article talks about this. They say use a private window, and thereby no cookies, to see what a generic visitor would see, then also look in you regular browser window, and compare the two. Sometimes your cookies may help you get a lower price, in which case use them, and sometimes they may hurt, in which case use the private window that isn't sharing them.

  4. I can't stand coupons by skids · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sales I don't mind. Sometimes you have to move old inventory. But coupons are just a PITA that only exist to give housewives/househusbands something to do with their time. So online shopping with all its contortions and the web20-ification of advertising just drives me completely up the damn wall. The minute I open a browser to buy something I can feel my stress levels rising and if I'm lucky I'll finish buying it before all the cussing and ranting force me to close the tab before I damage my PC.

    1. Re:I can't stand coupons by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Interesting

      that only exist to give housewives/househusbands something to do with their time

      Definitely not - they're there to get people to make decisions that they otherwise wouldn't make, usually bad ones.

      People love to get something for nothing. "$1 off a "premium" bag of wavy potato chips! Hell yeah!" No matter that the generic wavy potato chips are still fifty cents less and taste the same - it's a DEAL!

      Kohls is famous for marking up their goods by 300% and then having a 30% off sale. The lines are out the door for "the savings". JC Penney tried to do away with that scheme and nearly went bankrupt. They went back to it this year and are returning to profitability.

      If you don't have a concrete estimate of value for what you're purchasing, you can get wildly abused by the marketeers. That value will be subjective, but you better darn well know what it is if you don't want to get taken. I buy clothes at Kohls, but unless I'm desperate I limit myself to the 70% off clearance rack. That's where I find my valuation meets their prices. YMMV.

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  5. Re:say what? by jimbolauski · · Score: 4, Informative

    Supposedly you log in and put the item in your shopping cart and leave the site. Within a couple of days the merchant contacts you with a better price for those items.

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  6. no one does anything. by nimbius · · Score: 4, Interesting

    'steering' exists in meatspace, and most consumers actively embrace it. Take the average supermarket. High value items are placed at the edges of the aisles so you'll see them first. floor tiles are set in different sized to influence your cadence and ultimately how long you spend in a particular section. the 'landing zone' of a supermarket features specially illuminated produce first, typically directly in the path of locomotion. loyaty cards belch coupons for related goods and services the grocery store wishes to 'move' that may be of a lower or higher price point. milk in the front of the store costs more than milk in the back, and its tagged and tracked through the payment system differently. Baskets are commonly difficult to find and carts have since 1970 increased 60% in size in order to induce the shopper to buy more.

    bars and resaraunts do this as well. by pricing well drinks closer or identically to call drinks, the bar discourages patrons with less income. happy hour is cheaper than saturday night, and cheaper still than valentines evening.

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  7. Re:Steering? by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For each person, they're displaying a price at which they'll sell to that person.

    What part of this is "false"?

    Do you also consider frequent-buyer discounts, loyalty programs, and targeted electronic coupons to be "false advertising"?

  8. Instead by Charliemopps · · Score: 5, Funny

    Instead, how about we just fix the problem outright....

    Setup 3 computers.
    1 with a white guy
    1 with a black guy
    1 with a woman

    make sure the appropriate people are logged in, not logged in, have cookies, etc...

    Show the price differences.
    Snap a picture, smiling white guy, sad black guy and woman...
    Post it to twitter and let the general public make their usual incorrect inference.

    Watch the hilarity ensue and the entire idea of variable pricing die in fire.

  9. Prices change based on how you get there by dunkindave · · Score: 4, Interesting

    An example of this price-adjusting practice is when we needed to order an advertising banner for my wife's business. I did a little Google searching and found halfpricebanners.com had what we wanted at a good price so we used them. A couple months latter we needed another banner so I went to their website and was surprised by the price it quoted for exactly the same kind of banner - about double as before. Being the Internet nerd I am, I surmised something was going on so I went back to Google and did the same kind of search I had done before which again produced their link. Sure enough, if I go to their site from Google (not just from their ad, even the organic listing) then their prices are half of what is offered to people who go straight to their website. From then on we always used Google first to get the "Google discount".

  10. Time for a Firefox plugin ? by Alain+Williams · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How difficult would it be for a firefox plugin to alter HTML headers like HTTP_USER_AGENT & HTTP_REFERER to convince the sales site that you are a poor student ? The on-line sites will howl - but if it is OK for them to profile to charge me more, then I believe that it is OK for me to game them.