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Days After Shooting, Canada Proposes New Restrictions On and Offline
New submitter o_ferguson writes As Slashdot reported earlier this week, a lone shooter attacked the war memorial and parliament buildings in Ottawa, Canada on Wednesday.
As many comments predicted, the national government has seized this as an opportunity to roll out considerable new regressive legislation, including measures designed to* increase data access for domestic intelligence services, institute a new form of extra-judicial detention, and, perhaps most troubling, criminalize some forms of religious and political speech online. As an example of the type of speech that could, in future, be grounds for prosecution, the article mentions that the killer's website featured "a black ISIS flag and rejoiced that 'disbelievers' will be consigned to the fires of Hell for eternity." A government MP offers the scant assurance that this legislation is not "trauma tainted," as it was drafted well prior to this week's instigating incidents. Needless to say, some internet observes remain, as always, highly skeptical of the manner in which events are being portrayed.
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So, they've said that they knew something like this was going to happen eventually.. If they knew it was going to happen eventually, they should have planned for it. And, if they were happy with the security measures before, why do they need to change them now?
Let's keep this in context.. One guy, seemingly acting alone, shot a few people. Unfortunately he did it on government land, so the instant response is 'Terrorism'.
One guy (well, two if you count our PM), screwing with our freedoms.
One begins to wonder which of the three possibilities is accurate... coincidence, waited for such an event, or furnished the event.
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If you're angry about losing your civil rights, maybe you should be angry at the people taking advantage of situations like these and trying to take them?
Its introduction was obviously waiting for a trauma to capitalize on.
Hey Canada, It's America,
We gave our guys all these fancy abilities. Well, they took them and we didn't complain, which I guess is the same thing. Anyway, they haven't actually managed to CATCH anyone yet. Well, they've found some impressionable people with mental issues, chatted with them online, gave them a plan, weapons for the plan, talked them into it, and then instead of just getting them some mental help they "caught them" so they could tell us what a good job they were doing....
Never mind that I could bring my city to it's knees with $100 and a trip to Home Depot. We're kind of wondering if there are any actual real Terrorists out there at all. They're probably bogarting all the Ebola. I mean, we've got deranged people with guns but those are impossible to find beforehand and so far we just clean up after them and use them to pass new laws.
Don't fall for it. Sincerely,
Americans
You don't have to be cynical - they are totally upfront about the fact that they had these already written and were just waiting for the right time. Hell, they boast about it, as though it makes the legislation better.
- In Soviet Korea, only old people loose all their bases to Natalie Portman's petrified hot grits overlords.
ONE person dies and they go full retard? WTF? This was one guy with a gun. It's no reason to engage in national hysterics. They have managed to outdo us in US by a country mile.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
He was doing a ceremonial guard duty, as an honour. He probably didn't expect to be shot in the back.
The operational bases were on moderate alert, but apparently the PM didn't think he or anyone else needed to be careful...
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They've ALWAYS had a draft like that. And any excuse will do to try to push it through.
If there is no excuse, try to push it through anyway.
It's not a conspiracy. It's not a coincidence. They are not waiting for or furnishing events.
They see such events as INEVITABLE. It is a part of their view of reality. It is their life philosophy.
Their BELIEF SYSTEM.
They think they're the good guys.
And once you look around, you'll notice that in other groups of people as well.
Gun nuts really do believe that government is after their guns.
Rich people really do believe that poor people are all lazy.
Hippies really do believe that all people are good, just misunderstood.
Justin Bieber fans really believe that he can sing.
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
They were going to introduce the legislation on the day the crackhead attacked Parliament. Would have been so much better if the guy could have had some psychiatric help.
It's a shame that the crackhead has given the Conservatives more ammunition to remove our rights, especially considering he was totally under the radar anyways so this legislation wouldn't have helped.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism
Neither of the wack jobs were "under the radar". they both were on the terrorist watch list, the other one was semi-regularly being followed by the RCMP, this one was just denied his passport to travel to Turkey [they assume to then go to Syria to fight]. So they both certainly having their internet connections, email and phone calls being monitored and listened in on.
But still, this legislation wouldn't help because they didn't do anything "wrong" until they actually went to kill somebody. Which is already a crime. They didn't tell anybody they were planning to kill somebody here. And nobody directly told them to go kill somebody [other than that ISIS video "go attack somebody now now now, yes you, do it now!"].
So, the only way to "catch" these guys sooner is to arrest them for thought-crime, for believing something the gov't doesn't like.
The FLQ crisis was an actual terrorist attack, designed to directly influence the gov't. These were just a couple of screwed up guys doing something stupid, and they both paid with their own lives. The gov't is just using them to push it's own agenda.
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