Study: Past Climate Change Was Caused by Ocean, Not Just the Atmosphere
Chipmunk100 writes Most of the concerns about climate change have focused on the amount of greenhouse gases that have been released into the atmosphere. Researchers have found that circulation of the ocean plays an equally important role in regulating the earth's climate. The study results were published the journal Science (abstract. "Our study suggests that changes in the storage of heat in the deep ocean could be as important to climate change as other hypotheses – tectonic activity or a drop in the carbon dioxide level – and likely led to one of the major climate transitions of the past 30 million years," said one of the authors."
The year is 2014, and these "scientists" are just NOW realizing that the ocean plays a key role in global climate change? We learned about this in elementary school. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E...
Any engineer who has studied thermodynamics knows that water has about four times the specific heat as air. The mass of the oceans is about 260 times that of the atmosphere. Combine these facts, and you find the oceans have about 1000 times the heat capacity of the atmosphere. Thus it should be obvious that in any scenario of temperature change, the oceans will play a big, if not dominant part.
In regards to Chipmunk100's summary, greenhouse gases affect the heat input to the planet. The oceans represent a vast amount of thermal storage capacity. One is the current rate of change, the other is the integrated total of the changes over a number of centuries. Different units with different dimensions. A change in greenhouse gases today will take a long time to show up as an overall change in ocean temperature.
http://www.nasa.gov/press/2014...
Of course NASA is used to doing this.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...
Doubled CO2 means under 2 degrees warming
"8th December 2010 13:24 GMT - A group of top NASA and NOAA scientists say that current climate models predicting global warming are far too gloomy, and have failed to properly account for an important cooling factor which will come into play as CO2 levels rise."
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/ear...
""Ice cores from Summit show that melting events of this type occur about once every 150 years on average. With the last one happening in 1889, this event is right on time," says Lora Koenig, a Goddard glaciologist and a member of the research team analyzing the satellite data. "
Why would a 150 year melt cycle be "right on time" in warming world? Never mind somebody made the headline "Unprecedented melting of Greenland ice".
How can a cyclical even be unprecedented?
I believe Mr. Hansen left shortly after this. I could be wrong but I think it was around that time.
Need Mercedes parts ?
I guess you weren't around when Bush "won" the presidency. Considering EVERY study has shown that the incidence of illegal voting and ballot stuffing is non-existent, please cite a source other that ballot stuffing and illegal voting exists at all. By the way Judge Posner a far right wing Republican Federal court judge said the need for voter id's to prevent illegal voting and ballot stuffing is merely an excuse to suppress democratic voters
More facts: in 1948 the Democratic Party started putting in civil rights into their platform giving birth to the Dixiecrats. By the time of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Voting Rights Act of 1965 the Dixiecrats were in open revolt and the Republicans swooped up the bigot vote with the Southern Strategy--which remains in place for the foreseeable future.
The USA is less than 2% of the surface area of the planet. 2014 is on track to be the hottest year on record. Notice on the world map figure that there is a cold feature centered on the Great Lakes region. Another interesting item from the reference: 2010, 2005, 1998, 2013, and 2003, in that order are the warmest years on record.
Meanwhile the number of record low temps outnumbers record high temps 2 to 1 in 2014.
No, that's just the USA.
Thats right, more record highs means global warming, but more record lows is just temperature.
No, it's that record highs globally means global warming, record lows in the USA only means that 1.9% of the planet is cooler.
The reason that this is not inconsistent is that 1.9% of the planet doesn't have to have the same temperature trend as the global mean.
18 years of no warming is just temperature,
This 18 years?. Because that's warming.
but 6 months of warmer is climate.
Six months of warmest.
No one believe your lies anymore
This from the guy who tried to pass off the USA as the globe, the last 18 years of warming as not warming, and restated the latest 6 months that were the warmest ever recorded as 6 months warmer in the context of 18 years (falsely) not warmer.
Care to explain yourself on any of those points?
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Oh nos! A majority of Democrats voted against the act!! There goes your theory!
And then there's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R... Robert Byrd. Served as a Democrat senator all the way up to 2010 and was a member of the KKK!. Oh yeah, and he filibustered the 1964 civil rights act! But that was pretty common for the Democrats, after all Al Gore's father http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.... filibustered the bill for 83 days! Quite an achievement for anyone. I'm sure Al Gore Jr. is proud of his pop for keepin' the blackies outa white schools.
So yeah, the whole "switcharoo" never happened. It's just a sad excuse used by "modern" Democrats to try and disavow what is now quite unpopular. But don't you worry, the Democrats are going to bring slavery back to the whole country in the form of massive unsustainable statism!
Listen to this guy. It really sounds like he's talking about socialism:
Nope. That's the first Republican president talking about slavery. And the tyrants he's talking about? Democrats.
But don't let facts get in the way of your frothing hatred of people you obviously don't understand.
Correct, it wasn't Nixon. It was Reagan and (may he rot in hell) Lee Atwater:
http://www.thenation.com/article/170841/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1981-interview-southern-strategy
You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger.” By 1968 you can’t say “nigger”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites. “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Nigger, nigger.”