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"Police Detector" Monitors Emergency Radio Transmissions

schwit1 writes A Dutch company has introduced a detection system that can alert you if a police officer or other emergency services official is using a two-way radio nearby. Blu Eye monitors frequencies used by the encrypted TETRA encrypted communications networks used by government agencies in Europe. It doesn't allow the user to listen in to transmissions, but can detect a radio in operation up to one kilometer away. Even if a message isn't being sent, these radios send pulses out to the network every four seconds and Blu Eye can also pick these up, according to The Sunday Times. A dashboard-mounted monitor uses lights and sounds to alert the driver to the proximity of the source, similar to a radar detector interface.

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  1. Inquiring minds want to know... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Funny

    How do you say "My pig sense is tingling." in Dutch?

    1. Re:Inquiring minds want to know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Mijn varken gevoel tintelt

    2. Re:Inquiring minds want to know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      That translates back to English as "My pig-tingling sensation". Pretty sure anything that causes that sensation is illegal.

    3. Re:Inquiring minds want to know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Ik ruik spek.

    4. Re:Inquiring minds want to know... by ganjadude · · Score: 3, Funny

      spider pig...spider pig....

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    5. Re:Inquiring minds want to know... by unrtst · · Score: 5, Funny

      Depends what state you are in.

      It's probably a police state.

  2. someohow I think by Lawrence_Bird · · Score: 4, Interesting

    our police overlords will have this banned very quickly. Imagine a network of these in a city that can update a location map in realtime. Remember, just because the cops are public officials operating in public doesn't mean they think the public has a right to know about anything they are doing.

    1. Re:someohow I think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't get why anyone would care if its banned. You can still buy something like a SDR radio dongle for around $20, and, with the right software it could do the exact same thing.

    2. Re:someohow I think by cryptolemur · · Score: 2

      They don't have to ban them, they can ask for money to either cover urban areas with simple beacons overwhelming the "system", or even better, have a fleet of drones circling around making these things go "bong" completely randomly...

    3. Re:someohow I think by i+kan+reed · · Score: 2

      Eh, radar detectors are only illegal in a few places, and they mostly exist to flout the law too.

    4. Re:someohow I think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't see the problem with knowing where the cops are anyway. Around here anyway, they aren't going to stop real crime, they're too busy hiding in the bushes radaring people in speed traps to actually patrol and possibly prevent a crime. No, they always show up afterwards and tell you what you should have done.

    5. Re:someohow I think by MPBoulton · · Score: 2

      However, letting people know when the "coast is clear" and they can speed or (worse in my opinion) use a mobile phone will only increase roadside accidents and fatalities

      If they were going to speed or text while driving, they are going to regardless if they have a radio detector or not. Same goes for speeding with radar detectors.

      Making it clear when people can speed/use mobile phones without being caught will increase the number of people who do so - for example those whom are currently put off from doing so by current laws and the threat of being caught. New drivers in particular are likely to fall into this category given they have little experience of how little road coverage the police have.

    6. Re:someohow I think by azadrozny · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I am not sure about this. A Federal judge recently found that flashing your headlights to warn oncoming drivers of a speed trap, is protected speech under the First Amendment. You could make an argument that these are a group of concerned citizens tracking the activities of their local police, and publishing their findings.

    7. Re:someohow I think by Totenglocke · · Score: 5, Insightful

      When the police stop behaving like criminals, I'll worry about your concerns. Why am I more worried about the police than some thug on the street? Because a thug can suffer negative consequences for their actions, whether via the justice system or vigilantism. A police officer who commits a crime will rarely ever suffer any negative consequences for their actions and they are often rewarded with additional paid time off and promotions for their crimes.

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    8. Re: someohow I think by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 3, Insightful

      do we go Schindler, Martin Luther King, Jr., or George Washington at this point to illustrate the 'criminal element'? Oh, nevermind, it's all Jeffrey Dahmers out there trying to eat us.

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    9. Re:someohow I think by jenningsthecat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ...The only reason for needing to know if the police are nearby is if one is a criminal and/or thinking of doing something criminal.

      (Expecting downvotes from the "all police are pigs" idiots)

      I have mod points right now, but rather than downmod you I'll jump into the discussion. While I wouldn't say that all police are pigs, anybody who maintains that the average law abiding citizen has nothing to fear from the police either has his head in the sand, or is trolling. If your qualifier had read "if one might be viewed as a criminal and/or thinking of doing something that the police claim is suspicious in order to further their own ends", I'd agree with you. But then, there wouldn't have been much of a reason for you to post, would there?

      Of course, you may actually believe that Driving While Black, clenching your butt, wearing a backpack with graffiti on it, or carrying cash, are crimes simply because they seem suspicious to fucked-up and/or corrupt police. If that's the case, then shame on you.

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    10. Re:someohow I think by cayenne8 · · Score: 2

      Actually radar detectors are legal in most states, they're illegal in very few of them.

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    11. Re:someohow I think by Totenglocke · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's always funny to see those who've never interacted with the police in a professional manner claim that it's a "minority" that are criminal.

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  3. useful on a highway by alen · · Score: 2

    like if you are driving 90mph in a state where radar detectors are illegal

    1. Re:useful on a highway by tomkost · · Score: 4, Informative

      What you said is correct only sometimes. Often, the police are hitting each car that comes by with radar, thus your device will detect them lighting up the cars in front. If traffic is low, you are in more danger of being hit without warning. Or occasionally there is an officer who understands this and he only lights up the cards he thinks are really speeding. In this case he has to watch you, so you might see him before he decides to light you up. All in all, the ordinary radar detectors do work and provide a worthwhile addition to your vehicle. I don't even speed that much, but I know mine has saved me a few tickets.

  4. its counterpart in america: by nimbius · · Score: 5, Informative

    We've had this technology in the US since around 2006, however it was restricted to trunk/hybrid, or analogue radio systems and came bundled as part of a radio scanner. Scanners in many states are illegal to operate in a motor vehicle, hence the technology never really caught on. its biggest, perhaps only manufacturer, was uniden with their 'beartracker' feature
    in the states many municipalities still use antiquated strobe technology to change traffic signals in the event an emergency vehicle needs to pass. several of our radar detectors alert for these 'strobes' of IR radiation. "Safety radar" was an invention that never saw much usage in the united states but would alert the driver of road hazards and approaching ambulances using dedicated transcievers. its largely been discontinued.

    radios in the United States use APCO P25; this change was made largely after 2001. A digital system, it has cryptographic capability and is best-effort in protocol. Gnu Radio projects to capture and decode the unencrypted traffic are successful, and can yield through data capture, ping latency and triangulation a wealth of information such as who is in a given vicinity, their name, their unit number, the radio MAC address, what shift they work, and even their routes. much of this data wouldnt require 'listening' to the communication at all but is, much to our chagrin as slashdotters im sure, metadata

    http://www.crypto.com/blog/p25... unrelated but this presentation gives insight into how pointlessly flawed APCO p25 is.

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    1. Re:its counterpart in america: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Note that no state law against scanners has ever gone to court; the Supreme Court, in the Kentucky Antenna case made it very clear that it is legal to receive any radiation coming through you

  5. Old Tech? by AmIAnAi · · Score: 2

    Surely this is old news, the bad guys in games like GTA have had this tech available for years.

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  6. Ambulances are using the same technology by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In many places, Ambulances and firefighters are using the same technology. So expect some false positives...

  7. Encrypted? by organgtool · · Score: 3, Funny

    Blu Eye monitors frequencies used by the encrypted TETRA encrypted communications networks used by government agencies in Europe

    Yeah, but is it encrypted?

  8. Is it that hard to drive safely? by Lilith's+Heart-shape · · Score: 2

    Isn't it easier to just drive carefully, refrain from exceeding the posted speed limit by more than 5-10mph depending on whether you're in town or on a highway, stay in the right lane, avoid tailgating, and use your turn signals? The people who would find this useful are the sort of crazy asshole drivers for whom I used to keep a grenade launcher.

    Unfortunately, my wife took away the M-79 I kept under the dash soon after we got married. Said it made her nervous.

  9. Nice by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

    I had an idea to build something like this combined with a police scanner using an SDR and a Raspi or similar. And at over 1000 euros for this system, those plans are still looking pretty good.

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  10. Re:Kickstarter! by Zembar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or you could, you know, follow your local traffic regulations instead of casually breaking the law.

    Why is everyone so obsessed with breaking speed limits?

  11. Re:Seems Fair by crunchy_one · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You know the score, pal! You're not a cop, you're little people.

  12. Re:Kickstarter! by melchoir55 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because I have better things to do with my life than sit in my car, and because speed limits are always set far below the speed at which I feel safe driving.

  13. Also by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 2

    Radars produce signal when not active. Normal ones aren't "off" when not taking a reading, they are inactive, which means their components are still warmed up. They emit detectable signals, nothing electrical is quiet when it is on.

    Now there are what are called "pop" radar guns that go from off to on real fast... but they are, near as I know, not legal for measuring speeds since such a device cannot be made accurate. You can't make a 20GHz transmitter that turns on and stabilizes in a fraction of a second.

  14. Re:Kickstarter! by wienerschnizzel · · Score: 2

    Let's see how US compares to Germany with traffic related death rate:

    Germany: 4.9 road fatalities per 1 billion vehicle km

    USA: 7.6 road fatalities per 1 billion vehicle km

    Maximum speed limit:

    Germany: unlimited (on 70% of the Highways)

    USA: 120 km/h