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We Are All Confident Idiots

An anonymous reader writes: If you've ever heard of the Dunning-Kruger effect, you'll be familiar with David Dunning, professor of psychology at Cornell. He's written an article on the "psychology of human wrongness," explaining how confidence in one's answers tends to be high for people who don't know what they're talking about. He says, "What's curious is that, in many cases, incompetence does not leave people disoriented, perplexed, or cautious. Instead, the incompetent are often blessed with an inappropriate confidence, buoyed by something that feels to them like knowledge."

Dunning goes on: "A whole battery of studies conducted by myself and others have confirmed that people who don't know much about a given set of cognitive, technical, or social skills tend to grossly overestimate their prowess and performance, whether it's grammar, emotional intelligence, logical reasoning, firearm care and safety, debating, or financial knowledge. College students who hand in exams that will earn them Ds and Fs tend to think their efforts will be worthy of far higher grades; low-performing chess players, bridge players, and medical students, and elderly people applying for a renewed driver's license, similarly overestimate their competence by a long shot."

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  1. Sounds like Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This sounds a lot like many of the +5 insightful comments on Slashdot these days. Bold, confident one-liners to get that quick +5 but not actually knowing what one is talking about...

    1. Re:Sounds like Slashdot by mc6809e · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I was thinking about the press.

      There's no way a journalist can crank out story after story unless they're completely unaware that they don't know what they're talking about.

      Any doubts in their own understanding would stop dead their fingers on their keyboards.

    2. Re:Sounds like Slashdot by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Bold, confident one-liners to get that quick +5 but not actually knowing what one is talking about.

      You mean I wasn't getting +5 because I was awesome?!

  2. Left one out by jbmartin6 · · Score: 5, Funny

    He didn't mention /. posters.

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    1. Re:Left one out by lgw · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The problem here is that Prof. Dunning's principle could apply to anybody, including college professors.

        So how does he know he is correct?

      It's a good joke, but it's also the key realization that led to the use of double-blind studies. Someone had published a paper to the effect that no human studies could be trusted, because the observer effect would taint the study. It was a really depressing paper until someone pointed out that it was itself based on human studies, and thus the conclusion shouldn't be taken too seriously. More serious contemplation of the problem eventually led to double-blind studies being the norm for serious work.

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  3. Well that explains... by meerling · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Politicians...

  4. Seems consistent by Dega704 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

  5. Re:Who? by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You must not work in the corporate world. If you were not a confident idiot before joining, you will be after (or you'll be laid off). The guy who marches in the room with all the answers -> high value employee who knows his job and gets shit done. The guy who has more questions than answers? Incompetent idiot who ratholes meetings and deviates from the issue.

    The irony is that usually the second guy is the more knowledgeable person, he knows enough to know he doesn't know shit. Unfortunately as in politics, the person with the snappy answer sets policy.

  6. Re:Summary doesn't support headline by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is why deliberate practice, as described by K Anders Ericsson, is so important. Deliberate practice is what makes experts, and summarizes in three simple concepts: goal-oriented behavior; a focus on technique; and constant, immediate feedback.

    By deliberate practice, a person is *looking* for their flaws, setting goals to push their competence, and immediately getting burned when they push beyond their abilities. This style of practice aims to draw attention to those behaviors which are incorrect--gaps in knowledge, weakness in skill--so that a person may reconcile these things and improve.

    Such practice continuously slims down the level of overconfidence, even as confidence increases. A person is appraised of their shortcomings, but also reduces them, simultaneously becoming more skilled and more aware of the weaknesses in their skill in that area.

  7. The man that inspired this: McArthur Wheeler by uolamer · · Score: 5, Informative

    "The study was inspired by the case of McArthur Wheeler, a man who robbed two banks after covering his face with lemon juice in the mistaken belief that, as lemon juice is usable as invisible ink, it would prevent his face from being recorded on surveillance cameras." - Wikipedia

    In 1995 McArthur Wheeler actually tested this beforehand with a camera. One way or another his test proved he was invisible, at least to himself.... (lens cap maybe? bad film? somehow didn't get himself in frame when taking the picture?).. He robbed two banks in plain daylight. Later was showed the CCTV footage and still didn't understand how it captured his face..

    I read about this a few months ago and just found this to be one of the funniest things. Imagine doing something so stupid a whole psychological theory was inspired.

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  8. I was just talking about this with my wife... by weiserfireman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    She asked me, "how do you know you are a good computer technician"

    Me, "because I know how little I really know. When I was a good amateur, I thought I knew a lot, and was confident, but now, I know so much more that I know what I don't know. That makes me a good technician."

    She was confused, but I now I know there there is a scientific name for what I was trying to explain.

  9. Intelligence is.. by Rinikusu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Intelligence is knowing that everyone around you is full of shit.
    Wisdom is knowing you are, too.

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  10. I blame women by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    that sounds a bit confident. maybe it's too confident. maybe you are succumbing to Dunning-Kruger yourself!

    I have found that if I sound confident, other people will listen and follow, regardless of whether I know what I am talking about. I have also found that women tend to be attracted to confident, self-assured men, and are less concerned about whether the guy is actually right or wrong. So, if my theory is correct, men should display more self-confidence. Maybe the author already considered gender differences, but I didn't RTFA, I am just assuming that I am right.