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Stan Lee Media and Disney Battle For Ownership of Marvel Characters

An anonymous reader writes "Stan Lee Media and The Walt Disney Co. have taken their arguments to the U.S. Court of Appeals over who owns the rights (and profits) to Marvel characters. Though Disney bought Marvel in 2009, Stan Lee Media (no longer associated with Stan Lee, himself) still claims copyright of the characters."

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  1. Skimpiest article ever by halivar · · Score: 4, Informative

    No details, nothing about transfer of copyrights, proof of who is successor of interest, nothing. I RTFA and found the summary is pretty much all there is to know. Anyone got a more informative link?

    1. Re:Skimpiest article ever by Compholio · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's not a lot better, but some: http://www.denverpost.com/news...

  2. We can be certain of one thing by i+kan+reed · · Score: 4, Informative

    The actual people who came up with the characters definitely don't own them.

    Thanks, pro-corporate copyright laws and contracts!

    1. Re:We can be certain of one thing by Russ1642 · · Score: 5, Informative

      The actual people who came up with the characters sold them for money.

    2. Re:We can be certain of one thing by tomhath · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's quite common today for the photographer to assign the copyright to the couple and give them all of the photographs in digital format. The days of "pay me for every print" are thankfully over.

  3. Background material: by bmajik · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...

    Short Version: Stan Lee has had nothing to do with SLM for over a decade - since his former friend and co-founder fled to South America to avoid federal securities fraud prosecution.

    SLM is currently a few leeches who have nothing to do with the comics industry are trying to sink their claws into the profits of the creative class.

    I understand that creative people need money to work, and the entities that front that money are due a return on their investment.

    That's not what's going on here.

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    1. Re:Background material: by tazan · · Score: 4, Informative

      If I read the wiki correctly. The company went bankrupt, new owners took over and sued Marvel for a piece of the pie. Kind of like a lottery ticket: not much chance of winning, but the payoff is huge. They lost. Second group did the same thing, The third group which apparently is some kind of hedge fund did the same thing. This is their appeal. So not really related to Stan Lee or anyone originally at Stan Lee Media.

  4. Re:And people who write software by mrchaotica · · Score: 3, Informative

    Does Keanu Reeves own the copyright for Edward Scissorhands? No.

    Certainly not, but that's mostly because Keanu Reeves had nothing to do with that movie.

    Johnny Depp, on the other hand, almost certainly still gets royalties for his performance.

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  5. Re:And people who write software by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 3, Informative

    It seems obvious to me that the person who came up with the idea and directed it's creation is the copyright holder.

    It's really a matter of directing its creation. Mere ideas aren't copyrightable, and merely coming up with one doesn't matter. If you use someone else's idea but are the only creative participant, they won't get rights in tor work.

    And if you direct creation, you don't have to be the person who literally brings it about, either. But this is more than just paying someone a commission, or giving them the basic idea. It means that the other active participant isn't contributing anything creative.

    So for example, if you tell a photographer that you want a photo of some subject, the photographer will end up being the author. If you tell him exactly what camera settings to use, what lighting, choose the subject, pose the subject, etc., then you're engaging in authorship.

    . Likewise, if I hire someone to take wedding photos, then the photo copyrights are mine, as I commissioned the person to take them.

    No, they're not. Being the author means having sole artistic control. Being a joint author would involve two parties having artistic control, and an intent to produce a joint work. And a work for hire, in which authorship is attributed to an employer requires more than merely commissioning a work. It requires actual employment, with all the relevant indicia (tax forms, insurance, providing the tools and work area, etc.) or in a handful of cases, contractual language.

    You might be interested in Burrow-Giles Lithographic Co. v. Sarony and Community for Creative Non-Violence v. Reid.

    Does Keanu Reeves own the copyright for Edward Scissorhands? No.

    I think you mean Johnny Depp.

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  6. Re:Disney never lose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's not Stan Lee. It's Stan Lee's ex-company Stan Lee Media whom is currently completely unaffiliated with Stan Lee.

    Stan Lee needs to sue Stan Lee Media so that Stan Lee can have the rights to the Stan Lee Media name again.