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Technology Group Promises Scientists Their Own Clouds
jyosim writes On Tuesday, Internet2 announced that it will let researchers create and connect to their own private data clouds on the high-speed network (mainly used by colleges), within which they will be able to conduct research across disciplines and experiment on the nature of the Internet. The private cloud is thanks to a $10-million grant from the NSF. "They will have complete visibility into [the clouds] so they can really treat this as a scientific instrument and not a black box," the project's lead investigator told The Chronicle of Higher Education.
"[P]rivate data clouds" is a contradiction in terms.
Them that had parents that could pay their way into college.
Stop calling servers "the cloud". Stop it stop it stop it.
The browser extension that keeps on giving.
So it's PlanetLab, now on Internet2... because apparently some folks still care about that.
You do not have a moral or legal right to do absolutely anything you want.
We need Bennett to weight in this matter!
Every Silver Cloud has a leather lining
Cloud computing is part of an important synergy of the buzzword-compliant paradigm shift employed by slashdot to reach more eyeballs through social media.
Internet2 Announces First Full-Production Virtual Internet Network Architecture
http://www.internet2.edu/news/detail/7257/
It gives me a better sense of what they're doing, but I'd still be happy to have someone dumb this down into an automotive analogy.
[Fuck Beta]
o0t!
I agree. Use IaaS or PaaS instead.
Nectar
10 million is not a lot of money, in fact it might not even be enough to build a small data center, how are they planing on creating a "cloud" (a server farm managed remotely). some universities spend a million just on coffee annually (and I am not kidding).
highspeed networks? between different colleges? what are they in the same town? do you know how much it costs to bury fiber between 2 cities, or to even rent it. 10 million is some grad students wet dream that will be wasted in a year on nothing.
To be fair, there is room for distinctions inside the cloud metaphor. Regular cloud services will now be called the "cumulus" cloud, and the Internet2 service is the "cirrostratus" cloud, because it has faster winds.
Well you see, if they called it a "server," then they could get into legal trouble because they are only giving you a little tiny piece of a server. By calling it a "cloud," it can be whatever they want it to be, because...it's kind of hard for lawyers to pin down the legal definition of "cloud."
To be fair, there is room for distinctions inside the cloud metaphor. Regular cloud services will now be called the "cumulus" cloud, and the Internet2 service is the "cirrostratus" cloud, because it has faster winds.
So you're saying that cloud metaphors blow? I concur.
John
As someone who used to work as an advertiser, this buzzword salad sadly makes sense to me...
Hmmm yeah... so I'm guessing that they don't call it a cloud at all, but the editor felt that would suck more people in.
No industrial/scientific espionage at all.
Seven puppies were harmed during the making of this post.
Ahh, I smell an IBMer...
The conspiranoic in me senses this will enhance the NSA's capability to perform industrial espionage. Instead of hacking several different platforms, they will have just to tap into this. Or maybe they already did...
http://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch...
"Many of the ideas that drive modern cloud computing, such as server virtualization, network slicing, and robust distributed storage, arose from the research community. But because today's clouds have particular, non-malleable implementations of these ideas "baked in," they are unsuitable as facilities in which to conduct research on future cloud architectures. This project creates CloudLab, a facility that will enable fundamental advances in cloud architecture. CloudLab will not be a cloud; CloudLab will be large-scale, distributed scientific infrastructure on top of which many different clouds can be built. It will support thousands of researchers and run hundreds of different, experimental clouds simultaneously. The Phase I CloudLab deployment will provide data centers at Clemson (with Dell equipment), Utah (HP), and Wisconsin (Cisco), with each industrial partner collaborating to explore next-generation ideas for cloud architectures
CloudLab will be a place where researchers can try out ideas using any cloud software stack they can imagine. It will accomplish this by running at a layer below cloud infrastructure: it will provide isolated, bare-metal access to a set of resources that researchers can use to bring up their own clouds. These clouds may run instances of today's popular stacks, modest modifications to them, or something entirely new. CloudLab will not be tied to any particular particular cloud stack, and will support experimentation on multiple in parallel.
The impact of cloud computing outside the field of computer science has been substantial: it has enabled a new generation of applications and services with direct impacts on society at large. CloudLab is positioned to have an immediate and substantial impact on the research community by providing access to the resources it needs to shape the future of clouds. Cloud architecture research, enabled by CloudLab, will empower a new generation of applications and services which will bring direct benefit to the public in areas of national priority such as medicine, smart grids, and natural disaster early warning and response."
Also the occasional complete misuse of the buzzwords.
No, Sky, your wi-fi offerings have nothing whatsoever to do with cloud computing.
Yes let's all go to the Magic Cloud !
Where security is a marshmallow and your rights are blueberry fuzz !
The NSA would love you to go, and so would the providers that will charge you peanuts until the ransom demands....
Hey, Keep it local, keep it safe, and if you must have outside access layer the heck out of it, but never, ever gives the
keys to the kingdom to anyone else.....
Everyone is rushing to put all their eggs in the same basket.
Somewhere saving money on infrastructure thwarted common sense.
End of Line.
yes, just think about it - all that scientific data in the cloud that is funded by the NSF - so if they fund it - they have access and most likely control, and we know how secure that is - then when the grant money runs out.....hm....I wonder
The Church preaches that if I'm good and just believe, I'll get one someday. Still waiting.
... heading for exploitation by advertisers and entities bot foreign and national who want to tap in to that market.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
This sounded pretty cool until I realized they didn't mean "Technology Group Promises Scientists Their Own Clouds" literally.
William of Ockham had no beard. The most likely explanation is that it was chewed off by squirrels every morning.
I have my own cloud... and so should you... for no reason other than to say that you can do it and have done it.
owncloud.org
I don't read your sig. Why are you reading mine?
So, what was preventing researchers from storing stuff in their own private clouds before this?
Chelloveck
I give up on debugging. From now on, SIGSEGV is a feature.
Servers contain lots of silicon. Maybe we should say "I'm storing my data in the sand".
I prefer miasma myself.