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Labor Department To Destroy H-1B Records

Presto Vivace writes H-1B records that are critical to research and take up a small amount of storage are set for deletion. "In a notice posted last week, the U.S. Department of Labor said that records used for labor certification, whether in paper or electronic, 'are temporary records and subject to destruction' after five years, under a new policy. There was no explanation for the change, and it is perplexing to researchers. The records under threat are called Labor Condition Applications (LCA), which identify the H-1B employer, worksite, the prevailing wage, and the wage paid to the worker. The cost of storage can't be an issue for the government's $80 billion IT budget: A full year's worth of LCA data is less than 1GB."

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  1. US Citizenship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Once H1-Bs get used to working for peanuts to fulfill their "American dream", the next step is give them US citizenship so government can say "see, US workers are willing to work for less," then use the lowest common denminator to set wages.

    1. Re:US Citizenship by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The government of the United States of America is behaving very much like an accomplice to a crime

      Their unexplained decision to delete EVERY.SINGLE.RECORD regrading the H1-B program is tantamount of the DESTRUCTION OF EVIDENCE !

      How can the Americans allow their government to turn so rogue, so fast ?

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    2. Re:US Citizenship by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 3, Insightful

      People wanted change and they got it. I hope they enjoy every single inch.

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    3. Re:US Citizenship by NotDrWho · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The government of the United States of America is behaving very much like an accomplice to a crime

      I wonder if the founding fathers ever could have imagined a world where the government they created would be completely owned and controlled by an oligarchy of huge corporations. Could they have imagined a government where something akin to the Dutch East India Company simply walked in and individually bribed every single Congressman and the President to do their bidding, without the American people even realizing it?

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    4. Re:US Citizenship by Jawnn · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Good job dealing with the congitive dissonance of having voted for a gangster.

      What are you talking about? I have not voted for a Republican. Ever.

    5. Re:US Citizenship by KermodeBear · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because Americans are no longer educated about their government or their history, and as long as they can catch the latest episode of Here Comes Honey Boo-Boo they really don't care about what is happening. Those of us who DO care and pay attention are in the extreme minority. No matter how loudly we shout about the problems we're racing into, the rest of America looks at as like we're some crazy conspiracy theorists.

      It doesn't help that many of the large news outlets are government sycophants, refusing to carry news that may damage the current administration. Note that this behavior is not limited to CBS or our current administration. They're all corrupt to some degree.

      But yeah, nobody gives a shit, give them some Soma, all is well. Aldous Huxly was right.

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    6. Re:US Citizenship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why do you say "the alternative", when there were "alternatives".

      THIS is the major problem in America, people who think there are only 2 options, Demcrap or Republicunt.

      There ARE other alternatives, and while not mainstream, I bet if we were to elect them in place of these 2 failed organizations goons or goonettes, it would be a wake up call to those corrupt groups.

      Edward Snowden for President!!!

    7. Re:US Citizenship by mrchaotica · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Could they have imagined a government where something akin to the Dutch East India Company simply walked in and individually bribed every single Congressman and the President to do their bidding, without the American people even realizing it?

      What makes you think the $(nationality) East India Companies didn't bribe their respective governments?

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    8. Re:US Citizenship by marcello_dl · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > People wanted change and they didn't get it.
      FTFY

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    9. Re:US Citizenship by Jawnn · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The government of the United States of America is behaving very much like an accomplice to a crime

      I wonder if the founding fathers ever could have imagined a world where the government they created would be completely owned and controlled by an oligarchy of huge corporations. Could they have imagined a government where something akin to the Dutch East India Company simply walked in and individually bribed every single Congressman and the President to do their bidding, without the American people even realizing it?

      I think that many of them "realize" it, but they've been convinced that bullshit issues like gay marriage and reproductive choice are more important to them.

  2. Indentured servitude and slavery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is because the H1B visa problem is rife with abuse, ranging from fraud, most common, to basic slavery. If you don't believe the slavery port realize that a lot of people working on H1B visa's in the US have signed very abusive contracts with brokers in their home countries. If they quit and leave they'll be in a heap of legal and financial trouble when they get back.

    The tech companies know this, the Labor department knows this, Destroying records s a way to hopefully prevent any future legal action on the part of H1B applicants in the future. Similar thing happened with Migrant workers from Mexico, taxes and fees were taken out, then records were destroyed to make it impossible for workers to sue later or collect benefits promised.

  3. Government is getting really comfortable deleting by Karmashock · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... everything. The cover ups are wall to wall.

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  4. Plausible deniability by NimbleSquirrel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The answer to this is easy: plausible deniability. If the records are only temporary, and get expunged after 5 years, then the US government suddenly have an out for bad press over a long history of abuses of that H1B program that have gone unchecked. Instead of changing policy, fixing the program, and investigating historical abuses by various (mostly tech) companies, it is easier to rewrite histrory.

    The answer will now be: 'Oh... we can't possibly investigate company X for H1B visa abuses. The records were temporary and no longer exist. Since the records no longer exist, we cannot possibly comment. To the best of our knowledge, the H1B program works.'

  5. H1B applicants are people too by melonman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The article doesn't seem to point out the obvious explanation, ie that H1B applications contain personal data (of the type Slashdotters are usually passionate about protecting), and that it is good practice not to keep such information hanging around once it has served its primary purpose. There are presumably solutions to the research concerns, such as aggregating the data before it is deleted or collecting the specific data necessary before the records are deleted.

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    1. Re:H1B applicants are people too by Barny · · Score: 4, Insightful

      *hears a loud popping*

      Oh gods it is starting!

      But yes, I came in to see if anyone had picked up on this. Having governments restrict the duration they hold potentially personal data for is a good thing.

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  6. Re:Government is getting really comfortable deleti by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...except of course the private data of people they intercepted illegaly.

  7. Department of Corporate Welfare by Required+Snark · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Just change the name to reflect what it really does. Merge everything into four real departments:

    The Department of Defense Pork

    The Department of Homeland Pork

    The Department of Corporate Lawlessness

    The Department of Corporate Welfare

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  8. Sensationalist garbage by PPalmgren · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Every single government form and department has a record retention policy of some kind. This is a labor certification record held by the department of labor. This doesn't tell you anything except that the person had the H1B and was OK to work at their original hire date, its a work verification not a visa data repository. The actual visa application and so-on would be with US CIS or US CBP. I'm honestly surprised they held it for even 5 years, since most forms of this nature have a retention of only 2-4 years.

  9. How many of the US citizens give a damn? by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... Could they have imagined a government where something akin to the Dutch East India Company simply walked in and individually bribed every single Congressman and the President to do their bidding, without the American people even realizing it?

    I am a citizen of the United States of America. I realize what is going on

    But how many of my fellow Americans know?

    And more importantly, how many of them give a damn?

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    1. Re:How many of the US citizens give a damn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Most of them are probably too busy working two or three jobs to get by to notice.

  10. Copy Them by PPH · · Score: 3, Insightful

    These are public records (according to TFA). Some research organization (university) can make periodic requests for the data, put it on line and store it indefinitely. They (or some third parties) could even create a few reports, to give the public an idea of which companies are making H-1B visa requests.

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