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Hungary's Plans For Internet Tax On Hold After Protests

An anonymous reader writes: When news broke last week that the Hungarian government was planning to tax internet traffic at a rate of about 62 cents per gigabyte, people on the internet were outraged. But it went beyond that: there were protests in the streets in Hungary, and the European Union warned against the plan. Now, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has put the plans on hold, saying, "This tax in its current form cannot be introduced." It's not completely dead — Orban has planned consultations over the next year to look for other ways to tax revenue generated over the internet.

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  1. Do any of us know how much we really use? by TWX · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I honestly can't say how much traffic I pass. I'm curious as to how they came up with the rate they did, and how that number looks in Euros rather than US Dollars...

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  2. 0.62$ per gigabyte? Stone age by NuclearCat · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It shows one more time, how retarded can be some politicians. Normal households have 40-200GB/month traffic, which is insane $24 - $124 extra per month. I hope Hungarians will kick him out for good.
    P.S. I am sure, if they can, they will tax even air for breathing.

  3. It gets worse... by Jodka · · Score: 5, Informative

    A proposed internet tax is the least of problems with Hungary's current government. Selected headlines from around the web:

    The Guardian: Hungary's rabid right is taking the country to a political abyss

    The Tablet: Meet Europe’s New Fascists

    The Telegraph: Inside the far-Right stronghold where Hungarian Jews fear for the future

    Aljazeera: Hungary: Towards the Abyss Investigating why critics of Hungary's authoritarian government believe it is leading the country towards fascism

    The Tablet's, tagline is "A New Read on Jewish Life" and of course Aljazeera is Islamic. The Telegraph and Guardian are respectable British publications. They all agree that Hungary is leaning fascist.

     

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    1. Re:It gets worse... by Beyond_GoodandEvil · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The Telegraph and Guardian are respectable British publications. They all agree that Hungary is leaning fascist.
      That word, you keep using it, I don't think means what you think it means. Seriously, the grauniad is anything but a respectable British publication. One should ask precisely why Hungary is heading towards fascism.

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  4. Re:Did they crunch the numbers at all? by bigpat · · Score: 2

    Taxes are also sometimes about influence, control, and information as much as revenue. If the motivation was simply to raise revenue then they picked an unnecessarily intrusive way to do it by taxing bandwidth instead of taxing as a percentage of the monthly bill or even imposing a flat tax fee.

  5. Re:The leopard will not change its spots by wierd_w · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That's because government likes power, and money is basically instant power.

    The problem, is that government types are often so blinded by things like this, that they fail to comprehend how that money works in the market-- they aren't economists, they are inept managers looking to bolster personal powers.

    This happens in every government, of every kind.

    Hungary sees the internet, (Fuck, EVERY country sees the internet this way!) and sees a system saturated in untapped "Taxation potential". They don't realize that one of the big reasons WHY the internet is a powerhouse of economic activity, is BECAUSE it is not regulated by local and foreign tax control.

    Then you also have the "We can tax it, therefor we can regulate and control its use" power trippers. "I can control what people see, do, watch, and hear on the internet!" gives such people a very big boner indeed. Nothing says "I can shape your network use!" like a great big service fee, and nothing says "You will poison the well with my special sauce brand of misinformation when I tell you to!" like "Incentive tax breaks."

    A free, open, untaxed, unregulated internet is the antithesis of these people's desires. that's why they refuse to be sensible about this, and are FOCUSED on getting that control.

  6. Untapped tax source by smaddox · · Score: 2

    When you're a politician, everything looks like a tax source.

  7. Tax avoidance through mesh networks by Wootery · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If I transfer a file over a direct ethernet/cat5e connection, between two devices which happen to also be connected to the Internet, I presume that doesn't count as taxable data-transfer.

    But it would be taxed if I sent it over the Internet, even if the data never went further than the ISP.

    What if we create large mesh-networks, such that commercial ISPs are only necessary for connecting meshes? As the meshes grow, the amount of tax to be paid tends toward zero.

  8. Double dipping assholes by Skylinux · · Score: 2

    Orban has planned consultations over the next year to look for other ways to tax revenue generated over the internet.

    How come countries always double dip?
    I already pay income tax on every cent I make. Any other taxes are double, triple, ... dipping on already taxed money.

    I really hope I will see the day when we strangle politicians by their fucking neck ties.

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