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New Atomic Clock Reaches the Boundaries of Timekeeping

SonicSpike sends an article from NPR about a high-tech clock being built at the University of Colorado Boulder. It's more precise than any clock before, able to keep perfect time for five billion years. "At the heart of this new clock is the element strontium. Inside a small chamber, the strontium atoms are suspended in a lattice of crisscrossing laser beams. Researchers then give them a little ping, like ringing a bell. The strontium vibrates at an incredibly fast frequency. It's a natural atomic metronome ticking out teeny, teeny fractions of a second." But this precision leads to a problem: the relativistic differences between keeping the clock on the floor versus hanging it on the wall now introduce more significant fluctuations than the clock itself. "Tiny shifts in the earth's crust can throw it off, even when it's sitting still. Even if two of them are synchronized, their different rates of ticking mean they will soon be out of synch. They will never agree. The world's current time is coordinated between atomic clocks all over the planet. But that can't happen with the new one."

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  1. Old saying by plover · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A man with one watch always knows what time it is.
    A man with two watches is never sure.

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    1. Re:Old saying by SJHillman · · Score: 5, Funny

      A man with an atomic watch won't shut up about it.

    2. Re:Old saying by fustakrakich · · Score: 5, Funny

      A man with an atomic watch better not keep it in his pocket.

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    3. Re:Old saying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Another old saying I like, from sailors:

      When going to sea, take one clock or three, but never two.

      (Knowing the time was essential for navigation, to figure out longitude, back in the days before GPS navigation.)

    4. Re:Old saying by lgw · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A further problem with hyper-accurate clocks is relativity. TFS mentions the issues with general relativity - strength of gravity affects timekeeping. But there's a more profound issue once you get crazy-precise: only co-moving clocks can be synchronized in the first place. The concept of synchronization simply doesn't apply to clocks moving at different velocities - and two clocks at different positions on the rotating, orbiting Earth will never quite be moving with the same velocity. That relativistic effect is tiny, but it's not even hypothetically reconcilable: there are only so many significant digits of time possible to share between clocks in different locations.

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    5. Re:Old saying by psmears · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, it is NOT wrong. Your assertion is a common misconception. I assure you: I looked into this technology in depth.

      Then perhaps you can provide a reference?

      Just as basic geometry would normally dictate, 3 satellites are sufficient to find your basic location and elevation.

      No: basic geometry dictates that, to find a position in three dimensions, you need three measurements of distance. The trouble is that the signal from one satellite gives you no information about your position: the signal (roughly speaking) tells you where the satellite is, and the time by that satellite's clock - but since you have nothing to compare it against, you have no idea how long that signal took to reach you, so you get no information about your position.

      It's similar to if you asked me my height, and I said "I'm a foot taller than Fred". If you don't know how tall Fred is, you're no nearer to knowing how tall I am, even though you've been given one measurement. Sure, if you look at probability distributions of height you can have a good guess at how tall I might be, and this is similar to getting a 2D fix (where you assume that your elevation is "at or near the surface of the Earth"), but you can't know for certain that one of both of us don't have unusual heights.

      Once you have a signal from two satellites, you can subtract the timestamps, which doesn't directly tell you position, but tells you which satellite is closer to your position, and by how much. This allows you to constrain your position in one dimension (i.e. you still have two degrees of freedom - a surface rather than a solid), and another satellite's signal will give you another constraint (pinning you down to a line); only with a fourth satellite can you determine your position precisely (well, actually the solution can give more than one point but generally only one is realistic).

  2. They finally invented a clock so accurate... by unitron · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...that it can't be used to tell time reliably.

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    I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.

  3. Problem... by Lab+Rat+Jason · · Score: 5, Funny

    That sounds like a 0th world problem...

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  4. Re:That's quite a warranty! by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes, but you probably need to change the battery every few million years or so. That's where they will make their money . . . kinda sorta like printer cartridges or iPhone batteries.

    You get the atomic clock cheap, but those extras cost you!

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  5. Re:Hmm, says here: by marcansoft · · Score: 5, Informative

    Moving faster causes time to slow down (special relativity), but so does beeing in a deeper gravitational well (general relativity). As you move away from the Earth, both effects have opposite (but not equal) magnitude. I'm too lazy to do the math right now, but here's a walkthrough (for the case of GPS satellites, but the same equations hold; you just need to know the distance from Earth's center to Death Valley and to Mount Everest, and work out their linear velocity from that).

  6. Re:...and also not true by Bengie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Since "perfect" is impossible, making it a useless word, lets just redefine it to something useful, like the colloquial usage of "close enough with respect to the current standard margin of error.