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Study: There's a Wi-Fi Hotspot For Every 150 People In the World

mpicpp sends a BBC report on a study that found there are, on average, 150 people per Wi-Fi hotspot, worldwide. In the U.K. alone, there is one hotspot for every 11 people. The study estimates there will be roughly 47.7 million hotspots worldwide by the end of the year. France has the most, followed by the U.S., the U.K., and China. Future growth is expected to be high: "Over the next four years, global hotspot numbers will grow to more than 340 million, the equivalent of one Wi-Fi hotspot for every 20 people on earth, the research finds. But this growth will not be evenly distributed. While in North America there will be one hotspot for every four people by 2018, in Africa it will be one for every 408. While Europe currently has the most dense wi-fi coverage, Asia will overtake it by 2018, according to the report."

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  1. And they're basically useless except to the owner. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Wifi hotspots are easy to spoof by a hacker to feed your computer viruses and steal passwords. I avoid them the best I can unless I'm super desperate to use the Internet. The more common they become, the more hackers will set up shop and steal people's passwords.

  2. Flag by khellendros1984 · · Score: 1

    What's the point of a "flag as inappropriate" icon? Isn't that what moderation is supposed to be for?

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      Maybe if enough people flag spam posts they disappear? If that includes FRIST PENIS posts, all the better.

      But really, I'd guess it's about avoiding legal responsibility for user content.

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    3. Re:Flag by Zaelath · · Score: 1

      Just so long as you don't mind me smearing anti-whateveryouare slurs on your house in faecal matter, you might have a point.

    4. Re:Flag by Lehk228 · · Score: 2

      moderation does not provide enough social justice.

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  3. Freifunk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    In Germany, people have started creating a free as in freedom wifi hotspot network, offering restaurants bakery shops and cafes to join. There is no login. No tracking. Just surfing.

    http://freifunk.net/en/

    Because freifunk has no login at all, it has a good positon according to TFA:

    "At the moment you have to have a separate log-in for every hotspot and ultimately the winning providers are those that will offer the easier access experience," she said.

    1. Re:Freifunk by westlake · · Score: 1

      In Germany, people have started creating a free as in freedom wifi hotspot network, offering restaurants bakery shops and cafes to join. There is no login. No tracking. Just surfing.

      Free as in freedom or free as in a "bottomless" cup of coffee? Sit down, spend more, but don't overstay your welcome?

    2. Re:Freifunk by mirix · · Score: 1

      frei is generally of the unrestrained variety

      free stuff is usually said to be kostenlos (without cost).

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  4. Re:And they're basically useless except to the own by NotInHere · · Score: 1

    Hotspots just enable hackers to do stuff that previously only NSA and friends could and did. We should design the internet in a way that its irrelevant for security from where you are using it, and who sits in the middle.

  5. Rule of Thumb by PvtVoid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Having traveled a lot in both rich and poor countries, I have come up with a general rule of thumb: the richer the country, the worse the Wifi access. It's always the poorest places that have completely open wifi absolutely everywhere.

    1. Re:Rule of Thumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Because they don't know how to enable security. Poverty and Ignorance go hand in hand.

  6. WiFi in France by manu0601 · · Score: 3, Informative

    All major France ISP provide a set-top box for their customers that does DSL modem-router, WiFi access point, TV and telephone. The WiFi access point also provides a hotspot service for the neighborhoods. I guess it explains the high numbers.

    1. Re:WiFi in France by Tsolias · · Score: 1

      Exactly, also you have no control over that hotspot, the company uses your payed line to make more money, as they sell this to others as a service and on top of everything, you have no control to your router whatsoever, you have to login to the company's website and see what limited options they provide you.
      Also, in France I had terrible problems with latencies and ofc with Youtube

    2. Re:WiFi in France by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      The highest public AP count I have ever seen on my phone, 34, I once noted as I exited Le Châtelet Metro station in Paris.

    3. Re:WiFi in France by phayes · · Score: 1

      No. French ISP users generally have control over whether the hotspot is publicly shareable or not. My experience is with Free but the other French ISPs should be comparable. People that want to use the hotspots of other users have to explicitly activate sharing on their box as this is how they obtain the username & password needed to pass through the captive portal on the public SID. Users that do not share their bandwidth turn off the public hotspot, but lose the ability to use the hotspots others on their ISP have made available.

      The bandwidth available to the public SID is throttled so that public users cannot swamp the home users. While there have been problems in the past with french ISP's deliberately letting the links with youtube fill up as a negotiating technique to get Google to cough up money this hasn't been a problem in a long time. My 31.98€ per month fiber optic Freebox is faster & cheaper than just about any other ISP.

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    4. Re:WiFi in France by Godwin+O'Hitler · · Score: 1

      I seem to remember that when I enabled my French modem/router as a hotspot in order to be able to use other hotspots, my bandwidth got seriously gobbled up by people who weren't me.
      For all the use I personally make of hot spots, it just plain wasn't worth it.

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    5. Re:WiFi in France by YoopDaDum · · Score: 2
      I can't speak about all ISPs as I don't know their offer, but I can speak for Free that I use and is very popular. After all, they came up with the first box and were also the first to include WiFi.

      you have no control over that hotspot

      Wrong, with Free you can decide to turn the hotspot off completely, turn in on but keep in private (for your own personal use only), or turn it on and also share it.
      If the hotspot is off or private, you can't use other Free APs for your own use. If you share, you have free access to any Free hotspot. Up to you to decide.

      the company uses your payed line to make more money

      As explained above, it goes both way. I have an extra service too for free, which is why my WiFi is shared. And other users are always handled at a lower priority, so it's really transparent to me: they just get the unused capacity on my line.
      The wifi access is not directly monetized, in that no-one pay for it. But it certainly make Free more attractive as an operator: their boxes are very popular, so you can get wifi coverage mostly everywhere in a city as long as you participate in the sharing.

      you have no control to your router whatsoever

      You have control over some basic configuration like the DHCP configuration, basic port forwarding and IPv6 enabling for example. But it's true that the router belongs to Free and you don't have direct access like you could have on an OpenWRT box. If you want this you can put your own router behind, it's a bit wastefull but I did it at one point to have more control over DNS for example.

      you have to login to the company's website and see what limited options they provide you

      Yes, all the configuration is done through Free web interface and pushed to the box from their network.

      in France I had terrible problems with latencies and ofc with Youtube

      There was quite a big fight between Free and Google a few months back. Same kind of conflict as between ISPs and big network users like Google, Netflix all over with ISPs trying to get money from them. It seems it's been resolved recently for Youtube, it was really awful at the worst of the clash but is now ok (I'm not a big user though). Still, I'm waiting to see how it'll go with Netflix now they're present in France and if that kind of problem will happen again. I'm not super optimistic, but I've heard there are discussions happening. As I understand it the ISPs would prefer to be able to offer Netflix on their boxes with a cut of the profit in exchange of good network quality, and the big discussion is on the percent of profit for this... We'll see.

    6. Re:WiFi in France by GuB-42 · · Score: 2

      Exactly, also you have no control over that hotspot, the company uses your payed line to make more money, as they sell this to others as a service and on top of everything, you have no control to your router whatsoever, you have to login to the company's website and see what limited options they provide you.
      Also, in France I had terrible problems with latencies and ofc with Youtube

      I think you are talking about Free.
      The router is indeed completely controlled by the ISP and you use the company's website for settings. However, it not as bad as it may seem because :
      - The public hotspot is independent from your home connection. The IP is different and you are not liable if something bad is done with it.
      - You can disable the hotspot feature (but you lose access to others hotspots), you can also turn off WiFi completely.
      - QoS is used to prioritize connections. The order is : VoIP, TV, Home internet, Public hotspot. As you see the public hotspot has the lowest priority so it is unlikely to impact you.
      - If you want control over your internet connection you have "bridge mode", which I think is the best compromise between features and control. In this mode, you get a public, internet-facing IP so that you can connect your own router behind it and manage things like DHCP, DNS, NAT, port forwarding, etc... yourself and you still get to keep VoIP, TV and hotspot. You can't control QoS effectively though.
      - It is possible to take full control of your line by replacing the ISP's router with your own modem. A bit tricky though, and frankly, not worth it for the vast majority of people.

      You are right about Youtube and the global quality of their backbone though. It has improved a bit but Free still has one of the worst connectivity. If it is a problem to you, I recommend OVH (if it is available). As an ISP, it is geared mostly towards small businesses and has a very good peering.

  7. Pretty none in my area. by antdude · · Score: 1

    Because it is rural. :(

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  8. Re:And they're basically useless except to the own by AK+Marc · · Score: 2

    Without a definition of "hotspot" the story is useless. Is every unsecured home WiFi router counted? Secured store WiFi that you get a code for when you buy something? Unencrypted walled-garden sites? Pay-only unencrypted WiFi?

    This seems more like a count of APs, not hotspots. They don't mention what you can do with them. If you have to pay to get to the Internet (other than cafes that you have to buy a coffee), then it isn't a "hotspot" it's paid wireless internet.

  9. Too bad they're all closed :/ by Captain+Arr+Morgan · · Score: 1

    Most at least.

  10. Re:And they're basically useless except to the own by gl4ss · · Score: 2, Insightful

    it doesn't sound like a count of ap's too much though? or maybe it is..

    without reading the article(duh, wha the fu you expect??) I reckon it's hotspots as in paid(one way or another, like being a customer of a certain operator) hotspots. in some places the isp's blanket neighbourhoods with these - as alternative to getting a dsl line.

    why? because for those it's easy to get stats. that, and the french are kind of dicks so why wouldn't they setup for pay hotspots like mad to get off the free moochers...

    besides, most smartphones sold nowadays are occasionally hotspots or at least capable of being one..

    you know whats really funny though? the cheaper the hotel, the more likely it is that the wifi is free of charge. if the hotel is expensive then you have to get stupid fucking codes that you get for hourly or daily rates and the daily rates generally being more expensive than it costs to buy a data sim for a months access in said locale...

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  11. Re:And yet... by John.Banister · · Score: 1

    Sure, millions of hotspots, each with ac wifi and a 28k upstream connection. You can connect really quickly ... with the other three people using the hotspot.

  12. Hotspot handover? by grahammm · · Score: 1

    As the article states, currently you have to log in to each hotspot individually. Are there ant plans to implement the protocol which enables you to migrate between hotspots in the same way as you move between cell towers, with each hotspot handing over your connection to the next? This could be useful for pedestrians in city centres, shopping areas etc and would relieve the load on the 3G networks in areas where lots of people are using data connections on their mobile phones. So that as you move between shops you do not have to keep logging in to a different hotspot.

    1. Re:Hotspot handover? by Ogi_UnixNut · · Score: 1

      That has been possible since (at the very least) the first consumer Wifi APs (802.11b).

      Try it yourself, take two access points, stick them on the same network, set the same ESSID/password/etc... and then connect with Wifi, if you turn one or the other AP off, your wifi client will seamlessly switch over to the other. TCP sessions will continue unaffected (except a minor packet loss blip sometimes)

      The reason that these company provided "wifi hotspots" don't do that is deliberate. With the replacement of community wifi hotspots with corporate wifi hotspots, we've taken quite a few steps back, in exchange for the ability to track, meter and bill wifi usage.

      If for example, you convinced your entire neighborhood to set up a WiFI AP with the same details, and a VPN connection to a single network between them all, you could all walk around the neighborhood and be handed over from AP to AP without even noticing.

      I know, because that is how we did it back when we set up a wifi community in our area.

  13. mah bandwidth by bobmajdakjr · · Score: 1

    Funny thing is that is way too many people per access point for most consumer grade hardware in use.

  14. Data is incomplete by captainpanic · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I tested the data for my own country (Netherlands). That website claims we only have 10 hotspots in trains, while all our intercity trains now have wifi. Also, municipalities should be having only 25 hotspots, while entire city centers have free public wifi now. It's a load of rubbish, this website.

    I understand it is difficult to get the data... but if you equate the lack of data with "zero", then you make a mistake.

  15. Optimize it! by MagickalMyst · · Score: 1

    If we could evenly distribute the WIFI hotspots globally and use some sort of open inter-connectivity then we might be well on the way to making ISP's obsolete.

    A global network made by the people for the people.

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    1. Re:Optimize it! by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      Yep, I have sometimes fantasized about a similar system. The performance would probably be quite poor, but it does not matter because the idea is very cool. A grassroots network from people, to people. Would be fun to geek around setting up extra nodes here and there, all you need is an electrical socket.

  16. iPass marketing by userw014 · · Score: 1

    The BBC took a bit of iPass marketing and is passing it off as news.

    More than a decade ago, I worked for an ISP that worked to integrate it's dialup internet service with iPass so that our clients could roam and get better service than the old Sprint/GTE Telnet dialup/dumb terminal service offered. iPass was then in the business of coordinating service providers to share with each other - and it still seems to be in the same business, but with WiFi hotspots instead of modems and phone lines.

  17. Re:And they're basically useless except to the own by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

    If you count our phones HotSpot capability, we've got 5 WiFi HotSpots for 4 people in my house - I know several people whose homes are passing 2 HotSpots per resident.

  18. Re:And they're basically useless except to the own by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

    Hotel rates are largely determined by who is paying.

    Expensive hotels often cater to people on expense accounts who really don't care what the bill is.