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Pirate Bay Co-Founder Peter Sunde Is a Free Man Again
jones_supa writes Former Pirate Bay spokesperson Peter Sunde was released from prison this morning. Peter is expected to take some time off to spend with family and loved ones before returning to the normal grind. He was arrested in late May this year. Despite being accused of non-violent crimes, Peter was transferred to a high-security unit. His time in prison is described as being tough. There was no concern for high values such as a vegan diet or even proper treatment of depression. Peter also lost 15 kg of weight. After the experience he tweeted, "My body just got re-united with my soul and mind, the parts of me that matters and that never can be held hostage."
A vegan diet isn't about being hipster, it can be about moral choices.
If you went to jail and all they served was dog meat, would you eat it? How about insects?
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I am troubled by the no concern for his vegan diet. No concern would imply he was routinely served meat with no deviation from the regular prison fare. I don’t know about Sweden, but it seems there would be plenty of vegetarian diet dishes available for religious reasons to prisoners. If he was offered vegetarian fare, perhaps that suffices, its not like we can accommodate every dietary request. My religion only allows me to eat panda or human flesh certainly wouldn’t fly.
The question here is whether any reasonable accommodation was made. Without more details it is hard to judge. Disturbing if true though. This would imply you have to have a major religion to back up your moral choices in life – which to me is not religious freedom.
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A vegan diet isn't about being hipster, it can be about moral choices.
If you went to jail and all they served was dog meat, would you eat it? How about insects?
You'd probably eat it.
As for moral choices, I think all life is precious, from microbes to plants to things with faces. I also know that outside of chemolithotropes, we get our energy by killing and eating living things.
Having reasoned that becoming a breatharian isn't practical. I rest assured that our state of matter is just what it is, and we are stuck in it. I eat what I am physically designed to eat, and any "vegan" who is claiming moral superiority, but happily slaughters and devours plant life is just a hypocrite.
IOW, eat what you like, but don't act like you're superior because of it.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
What is it with governments and putting hackers in high security prisons and solitary confinement?
These people are computer nerds not violent criminals. There was no need to put Kevin Mitnick in solitary, no need to put Swartz in solitary, and there was no need to put Sunde in to high security. This is pretty clearly an abuse of power by the government, and there should be a way to stop it.
Meat will make you sick if you haven't eaten it in a while
Givn that Sweden has a 30-40% reoffending rate, I'd say it's doing okay.
According to Sunde the reason is incompetence;
excerpt from http://www.aftonbladet.se/debatt/article19207648.ab
"Jag är vegan och har gått ner sju kilo på en månad. Viktminskningen beror på den undermåliga maten. De få grönsaker som serveras saknar nödvändiga vitaminer och mineraler. Vid klagomål har jag fått höra att de inte behöver ge mig annan mat än den vanliga, då min diet varken är religiös eller medicinsk, trots att lagen är tydlig med att vegetarisk kost ska tillhandahållas. Problemet är att lagen inte följs särskilt ofta."
"I'm a vegan and have lost even kilos in a month. The weight loss is due to the substandard meals. The few vegetables which are served lack the necessary vitamins and minerals. When I complained I was told that they didn't need to afford me any special accommodation as my diet was neither religious nor medicinal, even if the law is clear that vegetarian diet shall be offered. The problem is that the law is often ignored".
my translation is kind of shit but it's apparent that it was a combination of incompetent and/or vindictive/uncaring prison officials.
Sure in America that's called jail. However, not everywhere is in America and not everywhere else uses that terminology. Sweden happens to be part of the everywhere that isn't America and doesn't use that terminology.
You can consider yourself a vegan but you're not. You've become omnivorous.
Veganism is a diet for rich western people who have shops stocked with food year round and first world medical facilities. For most of the world, veganism is a cruel joke, if not a slow suicide.
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actually not , most people in the world are too poor to afford meat unless they grow it themselves and even then they eat it sparingly. This has been ever since humans have traded foodstuffs.
Meat is a diet for rich western people who have first world medical facilities , for most of the world , eating meat is a cruel joke , a slow suicide of the planet as land used for meat production is typically orders of magnitude less resource efficient.
there i fixed it for you , now please fix your diet and mindset
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So, your argument is blaming the victim?
The idea that all people in prison deserve whatever abuse because they did something morally wrong to get there doesn't make sense in theory (one can be both victimiser and a victim), let alone in practice given that law and morality sometimes match up and oftentimes do not. That meaning that there are plenty of people in prison for doing nothing wrong, or even doing the right thing.
And that might not sway your black-and-white view of the world, but I am certain you would feel differently if you were Muslim, Jewish, or Hindu being fed only pork (or beef in the case of being Hindu). Being arbitrarily forced to choose between conviction and survival with no need for it is akin to torture (certainly cruel and unusual).
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1) He's not a victim. He's a convicted criminal.
False dichotomy. Turns out he's both. Go back and dig in the posts. It was in fact illegal for the prison not to at least serve a vegeterian meal. So he was the victim of a crime.
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