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European Parliament Considers Sharing Passenger Information By Default
An anonymous reader writes The EU Passenger Name Record (PNR) proposal which was defeated in April of last year has returned to consideration in the European Parliament today. The law would require that airlines provide extensive personal details of anyone flying into or out of Europe. The information would include name, address, phone numbers, credit card information and travel itinerary. Director of Europol Rob Wainwright says that PNR is within the bounds of "reasonable measures" in the struggle against terrorism, and that possible threats against Europe have increased in the more than 12 months since the law was last rejected. Dutch MEP Sophie In't Veld is arguing that the Data Protection Directive should be put into place before any such systematized disclosure be ratified. "They want unlimited powers," she said. "they don't want to be bound by rules or data protection authorities and that's the reality."
I would allow this with one condition.
For each single case of an individual's data being stolen, the current director of Europol and the one in place at the moment of the steal spend a year in prison and Europol pays to the individual $1M plus whatever is stolen from his accounts.
My guess is that the biggest threat top europes citizens are europes politicians and the law enforcement / terror prevention organizations
The sum of intelligence on a planet is constant. Nowadays we have more people. When classic goes away, so do I. Copy
And the reason for this all: fear. Fear for terrorists, fear for being held responsible, fear for the unknown. We live in a world in which we no longer accept any kind of risk. No matter how low that risk. Well, at least risks we are aware of. We fear terrorists, we fear ebola, we fear being robbed in the streets while at the same time we smoke, eat unhealthy food, practice dangerous sports and get in the car. Every day we do things that are more dangerous than the things we fear most.
Yes, terrorists should be stopped, but not at all cost. And there is no way to make 100% sure no terrorist will ever hit us. So, stop pretending we can! Stop wasting our time, money and privacy to give us false security! And if a terrorists hits us and kills 20 people, is say: that's bad but it isn't the end of the world. Life goes on. In the same time more people are killed for other reasons and we don't even hear about them!
Look at Boston. Despite all the anti-terrorist measures in America, it was still possible to do this kind of attack. And what happened to Boston? Nothing, they moved on. And that's how it should be done. Yes, it's easy for me to say because I haven't lost any family or friends in that attack. But that is the right way to look at it for politicians. Respond to it with logic and common sense and not with fear and emotion. Because that only makes it worse!
It doesn't have to be like this. All we need to do is make sure we keep talking.
when you got terrorists laughing their asses of at their post 911 win. I don't think any of them could have wished for a better win.
by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
Just for your information: hotels in many European countries are required by the law to collect your personal information upon check-in
That's mot the same as an EU-wide law. Some countries don't have any reauirements. See CMS Guide to Principal Hotel-Specific Laws in Europe and China.
You confuse the local laws of some countries with EU law.
Show ONE example where extensive data exchange has ever prevented a "terrorist attack".
The only reason could be to aim for full insight in peoples where-abouts. I would imagine this does not have any effect on terrorist or criminal's activity. They have other ways of remaining undetected.
A lot of that information seems reasonable if you want to know who is crossing into and out of your border. But why credit cards?
If you want to fight terrorism, quit treating other people like pieces of shit.
You don't keep mice out of your house with mousetraps. You keep them out by sweeping up all the crumbs on your floor so they have no reason to come in anyway.
If they don't vote the right way the first time, they're made to vote again and again until they do. Of course, as soon as they vote right once, they don't get another one.
I don't remember being asked to show ID on checking into a hotel anywhere in Europe. In the US, however, credit card and photo ID are the first things that they ask for at every checkin desk at every hotel I've stayed at (about a dozen over the last couple of years, in quite a few states).
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'Director of Europol Rob Wainwright contends that PNR constitutes “reasonable measures” in the fight against terrorism'
and how soon after will such data be used to compile a no-fly list, to be used to harass anyone who criticizes the state security apparatus.
'The U.S. government is blacklisting people as terrorism suspects based on secret standards and secret evidence. People on government watchlists are questioned, harassed, detained, and even barred indefinitely from flying — and the government denies them any meaningful way to correct errors and clear their names' ref
Had to show my id in several hotels in Germany, Czech republic, Finland...
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
Have had to in Italy, Germany, the UK, Netherlands, Austria, probably several more.
As to the ID and credit card thing in the US, that's the hotel's doing - they want to make sure they get paid, and that the person using John Smith's credit card actually is John Smith, and not some guy who's going to raid the minibar and walk out with the towels and the TV.