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Window Washing a Skyscraper Is Beyond a Robot's Reach

HughPickens.com writes "Patrick McGeehan writes in the NYT that the image of a pair of window washers clinging to a scaffold dangling outside the 68th floor of 1 World Trade Center have left many wondering why robots can't rub soapy water on glass and wipe it off with a squeegee relieving humans of the risk of injury, or death, from a plunge to the sidewalk? The simple answer, several experts say, is that washing windows is something that machines still cannot do as well as people can. "Building are starting to look like huge sculptures in the sky," says Craig Caulkins. "A robot can't maneuver to get around those curves to get into the facets of the building." According to Caulkins robotic cleaning systems tend to leave dirt in the corners of the glass walls that are designed to provide panoramic views from high floors. "If you are a fastidious owner wanting clean, clean windows so you can take advantage of that very expensive view that you bought, the last thing you want to see is that gray area around the rim of the window."

Another reason for the sparse use of robots is that buildings require a lot more maintenance than just window cleaning. Equipment is needed to lower people to repair facades and broken windows, like the one that rescue workers had to cut through with diamond cutters to rescue the window washers. For many years, being a window cleaner in Manhattan was regarded as one of the most dangerous occupations in the world: by 1932, an average of one in every two hundred window cleaners in New York was killed each year. Now all new union window cleaners now take two hundred and sixteen hours of classroom instruction, three thousand hours of accredited time with an employer and their union makes sure workers follow rigorous safety protocols. In all, there are about 700 scaffolds for window washing on buildings in New York City, says union representative Gerard McEneaney. His members are willing to do the work because it pays well: as much $26.89 an hour plus benefits. Many of the window cleaners are immigrants from South America. "They're fearless guys, fearless workers."

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  1. A cost equation by seven+of+five · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Human window washers must be cheaper than self-cleaning glass or robots. For now.

    1. Re:A cost equation by rnws · · Score: 3, Informative

      Pilkington's "Activ" glass will self-clean in the rain. Though with credit to your comment, they recommend hosing it during prolonged dry spells.

    2. Re:A cost equation by swb · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Cost seems like a good explanation. I have no idea how long it takes to wash an entire building, but at the pay rate quoted in the story they could employ two guys for a whole year for under $300,000. A really good machine would probably be a million dollars to design and implement and would still need maintenance and probably a full-time guy to operate it.

      I find it hard to believe there isn't a technological solution to this that could limit exterior manual cleaning to something done every couple of years. The idea that some machine used on the old World Trade Center sucked seems like a weak excuse -- a car from the early 70s sucks now, too, compared to current cars employing modern technology.

      Some ideas off the top of my head:

      1) A self-contained pressure washing system that recycles its own water with some combination of sheeting chemistry, forced air and microfiber to ensure the window is clean. Hard to believe you can't design a machine capable of cleaning well.

      2) Why not integrate a cleaning system into the window framing or structural system capable of washing either a bank of windows or several vertical floor sections? It might need fixing itself, but it could be combined with once-every-five years exterior maintenance and "thorough" cleaning.

      3) Are there coatings or other materials science solutions that would make dirt and pollution less likely to stick to the windows and make cleaning necessary only every 5 years or when exterior maintenance was necessary?

    3. Re:A cost equation by seven+of+five · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, I'm far from Libertarian now, I'm a progressive crank who thinks robots will eventually be the answer to everything. When I see a headline that says "beyond a robot's reach," I think, "Oh, really?"
      You could make a robot competent for the job, but it would be much more expensive than a person. That won't always be true however. That's my point.

    4. Re:A cost equation by ottothecow · · Score: 4, Informative
      Lake Point Tower in Chicago has an automated window system that seems to work pretty well.

      https://lakepointtower.wordpress.com/2009/07/17/doing-the-windows-at-lake-point-tower/#more-461

      Here is a terribly done youtube video that purports to show the machine and process (but...well...let's just say he isn't a very good cameraman). Of course, it is a design that is fully integrated with the building. I worked in the building for a while and I always found the windows to be quite clean. Better than other buildings because they could clean the windows more often. You need tracks running down the edges of all of the winows, so you couldn't retrofit this onto an old building...but this problem does seem solvable for new constructions.

      Significantly more complicated for old buildings. I am in a ~100 year old brick and stone facade building. The windows are inset, and not uniform in size, They have window sills and some of them are divided into multiple panes while other areas have bigger sheets of glass. I don't know how a machine would manage this...and having a custom machine might make sense for a large condo building (pretty sure the lake point tower cleaner robots are running most of the time since they have 70 stories of wall-to-wall windows to clean), but a custom machine for a shorter office building with limited windows is not going to be more effective than having a couple guys scrub the windows every few weeks.

      Here, the guys that clean the windows actually rappel down. I think a lot of older buildings have too much stuff sticking out (and the windows are more spaced out), so having a hanging scaffold doesn't make sense. Instead, they just harness in and kick themselves around the building, using a suction cup to hold themselves in place while they clean a window. Incredibly fast and even considering they get paid pretty well, incredibly cheap.

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  2. It seems like squeegeeing is the wrong approach by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For a human, using a sponge and squeegee combo is probably the most effective way to clean a window. For a robot, I would imagine that the answer is something more like a pressure washer, with a hood which covers the work area and reclaims the wash water. The water would then be filtered and reused until the particulate count rose too high, at which point it would be flushed and replaced with fresh. A sheeting additive would be used to cause the water to run off without spotting.

    This probably wouldn't replace human window washing entirely, but it seems like it has the potential to replace at least some of the washes.

    I've often wondered if anyone has ever tried a project to make a building which washes itself, using a robot designed for the building, and a building designed for the robot. I can imagine many problems with such a project without even undertaking it, mostly related to critters taking up residence in the mechanisms and/or tracks, but if it operated continuously that might well eliminate some of those objections. A universal window washing robot has a more complicated task than such a device would.

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  3. Shocked... by camazotz · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm shocked that those window cleaners make "up to $26.89" WTF seriously? They just bragged like that was a good number for that sort of work....? I guess, relatively speaking, it might be good for the alternative choices those workers have, but I sure as hell wouldn't do that for $26.89. Why is it that all the high mortality rate jobs have such shitty wages?

    1. Re:Shocked... by jafiwam · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You think $26.89/hr is a low wage? Wow. That's $53780/yr! A huge amount of money. And people wonder why international outsourcing and illegal immigrants are a problem. The North American standard of living is unsustainable, pure and simple. All these rich folks have no idea that the majority of the population works for far less. Housing alone costs about 80% of earnings for most people. Ain't capitalism grand?

      In the cities where they are needed, that's not a whole lot of money. I bet those guys live in hovels or commute from waaaayyy outside the cities the work in.

  4. Re:Why have we not solved this? by neonKow · · Score: 3

    You're vastly underestimating the difficulties of material science.

    "Why don't we just create a material that does the work itself" is the perfect idea of theorycrafting without any idea of what you're talking about.