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Microsoft Aims To Offer Windows 10 Upgrades For All Windows Phone 8 Lumias
An anonymous reader writes News suggesting that Microsoft plans to offer Windows 10 upgrades for all its Windows Phone 8 devices broke today. "It's our intention to enable a Windows 10 upgrade for Lumia Windows Phone 8 smartphones," a Microsoft spokesperson told VentureBeat. "At this early stage in the development process, and given the vast portfolio of Windows devices worldwide, we can't predict that all devices will be upgradeable, but it is our intention that the Lumia smartphone line be upgradeable to Windows 10."
Unless they offer the upgrade for free that will not really help their market share that much,....
The first line has garden path construction that first parses as " ... Windows Phone 8 devices broke today."
Next, the summary doesn't include the word "free." If the offer isn't free, then it's just "Microsoft plans to offer try to sell a new product to its existing customers."
Actually after clicking through to the original article, I think this is the case. Basically I think Microsoft is saying "we hope to make it possible to sell Windows 10 to Windows 8 users, but the old hardware might prevent us from doing that."
This isn't news. At best, this is just press spin. At worst, it's just part of the Windows 10 advertising campaign.
about Windows phones, anyway? The huge capital destruction operation that the Nokia takeover amounted to wasn't enough, obviously: MS needs to sink even more cash into a non-existing market: Windows phones. Ain't gonna change anytime soon. Reason : there is no fucking **innovation** going on at MS. Just marketing. Meh.
Religous speak to God. Insane are spoken to by God. When all shut up, one can finally hear Shostakovich in peace
Because I hate a phone without a real start MENU. And let's not call it a phone anymore is right. Who does voice calls anymore anyway?
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Read on below for the rest what Bennett has to say.
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Frequent contributor Bennett Haselton writes
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snoooor ....
Neither a fan of the most valuable company (Apple) nor the 2nd, but had to be said before Microsoft bashing commences: http://www.betawired.com/microsoft-becomes-second-most-valuable-company-leapfrogging-exxon/1414855/
So they must be doing something right!
Windows doesn't really need to be fixed, but be left behind for good.
It would be fair to finally people understand that it's like SCO UNIX and Xenix that should be buried and never look back. The only people that should ever look back are few historians and computer scientists writing books of a well known and cautious example how things can go horribly wrong when you let marketing department lead development changing their mind again and again after few years until its time to repeat same mistakes and ignore or forget fixing fundamental things that have been broken decades. That leads to a kind rubicon Windows is today and it's fair to say nobody can fix it without completer clean room rewrite, but that would be too awful for MS to admit and therefore it's still trying to pull new stunts year after year.
Please do you selves a favor, leave Windows behind already and choose whatever else other system, you will be a much happier camper after a while. The learning curve for a switcher is not that steep any more it was 10 years ago.
Wake me when they offer a Win10 upgrade for those who had to suffer from Win8 on a Desktop. It's kinda a slap in the face when they only offer an upgrade for an OS for the only platform where that OS at least remotely made any sense.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
How would they ask money through windows update?
What about the once-flagship Nokia Lumia 900? Oh sure, nevermind; that phone will always be stuck at Windows Phone 7.5. As TFA says, only Windows Phone 8 will be upgraded. Pity those fools that trusted Microsoft and their %$#@! Windows Phone when they bought their new, first ever released (non-linux, non-symbian) Nokia Lumia, complete with new and shiny Windows Phone 7.5.
It would be very interesting to learn the stats on those buyers' subsequent smartphone purchases, assuming that was possible.
No other site covers Microsoft so much.
So much love or rather donations are coming Slashdot way?
From TheVerge ...
Microsoft doesn't plan on making the same mistake twice: the company has made a public pledge that all of Nokia's Lumia Windows Phone 8 devices will be upgraded to the mobile version of Windows 10 when it's released. Responding to a customer's question on the topic, Microsoft tweeted, "We plan to upgrade all Windows Phone 8 devices to Windows 10 in the future." Microsoft's next big operating system remains in early development, so the company obviously isn't revealing details as to when that update will arrive.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/1...
i had a windows 6 mobile phone with a start menu. it was a great phone to type on, as it had a real keyboard. i also liked having EXCEL on my phone as i could keep a list of supplies and prices to help me make purchase decisions. but it was slow so i moved to android, then the iphone. none of my phones took upgrades until i moved to the iOS platform. so while i acknowledge it's a good idea for microsoft to offer windows 10 to existing windows 8 phone users, they didn't make an upgrade path from 6>6.5, from 6.5>7, or from 7>8. And the carriers don't make it easy to upgrade Android, either. So nuts to them, I'm happy in my walled garden.
Remember kids, if you're not paying for the service, YOU ARE THE PRODUCT THAT IS BEING SOLD.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
I'm so used to reading broken English on sites like Stack Overflow, I thought the article said free Windows 10 upgrade for people whose Windows 8 phones suddenly broke today.
... with a wet squirrel than
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It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
Who does voice calls anymore anyway?
People who don't pay several hundred dollars per year to a cellular carrier. This includes land line users and (by extension) people who call land line users. It also includes users of $7/mo pay-as-you-go flip phones, for whom multitap composition of SMS is a serious chore and T9 isn't much better.
How would they ask money through windows update?
Microsoft has already offered the first service pack for Windows 8.1 as a free app in the Windows Store instead of Windows Update. So Microsoft could ask for money through Windows Phone Store.
At it looks like M$ is taking steps in the right direction, which is more than we could have said during the Ballmer years.
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Will they bypass the likes of Verizon while doing this, so that we can get our updates directly from Microsoft instead of waiting for Verizon to roll them out? And I'm talking about automatically, just like Apple, as opposed to signing up for the MS Developers edition.
Incidentally, I got an update to WP8.1 yesterday on that, and now they've tossed in folders - the same way one does in iOS by merging 2 icons. Managed to reorganize a lot on that phone following that.
when they are planning for 4G , ARM64 , 20nm device ? may be with windows 15 ?
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This may give an impression of slightly broken which is otherwise unusual in Windows [...] annoyingly Metro windows media player starts when you double click on a file
To test your hypothesis, I just started the Modern UI-based Music app in Windows 8.1 with Classic Shell. When I moved the mouse to the top of the screen, its title bar faded in with an X button at the far right, the same place where one expects to find it in a maximized desktop application. I was able to close it by clicking the X button. This title bar appears to be a new feature of 8.1 compared to 8 though. And in any case, right-clicking a file and choosing "Open with > Choose default program..." will fix this going forward.