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Interviews: Ask Malcolm Gladwell a Question

Malcolm Gladwell is a speaker, author, and staff writer for The New Yorker since 1996. Gladwell's writing often focuses on research in the social sciences and the unexpected connections or theories made from such research. His books: The Tipping Point: How Little Things Can Make a Big Difference, Outliers: The Story of Success, and David and Goliath: Underdogs, Misfits, and the Art of Battling Giants are all New York Times best sellers. Malcolm has agreed to give us some of his time to answer any question you may have. As usual, ask as many as you'd like, but please, one per post.

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  1. Questions for Malcolm Gladwell! by advancecoder · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ten-thousand hours (~3.4 years if a regular job) is Gladwell's estimate of temporal mastery. With that being said, the Mozarts like Carlsen or Fischer learn faster and become World Champion. What is the difference between the Mozarts and 3.4 years? Is it there some passionate rage to absorb and decipher patterns that magnetizes them to a particular domain or is it their consistent, well-designed regimen for reaching the upper echelons (like Lalzo Polgar's systemic approach with Judith and Susan)? If it is "pure" passion, then will people who find their true calling and invest appropriate time (e.g. have an OCD mentality) always see the unquestionable results? If it is "pure" regimen, then will following the same systematic approach always see the overarching performance? One thing to keep in mind is are these skills transferable to other domains? Is there a way to tackle a number of domains in the same 10,000 hours with an abstract approach? What about the time to create "new" domains rather than to "solve" problems in a particular domain? Is there some sort of estimate for that? Malcolm could possibly use those clues for his sequel to "Outliers" appropriately called "Pioneers". Any thoughts?

    1. Re:Questions for Malcolm Gladwell! by vux984 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Ten-thousand hours (~3.4 years if a regular job)

      Where did that come from? 10000/3.4 = 2941 hours per year. Nobody works that. The average full time *American* works less than 1800 year, and has since the 70s. Other countries full time work even less.

      A 2000+ hr work year is a fiction

      If you are working 2000+ hrs for someone else your probably being exploited. Take a good hard look at what you are doing and whether its worth it. Most people do NOT have to work that much. And they probably get paid just as well as you. The average full time employee works 1700 hours. (They get PAID for another 200-300 though for holidays, vacation, sick/personal days etc. So the work year might still add up to around 2000... but you shouldn't actually be working that. (This is just one reason, (along with medical and other benefits) why contractors need to charge more... they're not being paid for those 200-300 hours.)

      If you are working 2000+ hours for yourself, and just making ends meet, (ie its not a choice) then you need to take a hard look at your business.

      If you are working 2000+ hours for yourself, and making out like a bandit, well... good on you... you can afford to life a more balanced life, and you probably should, but the choice is yours.

      http://www.businessinsider.com...

    2. Re:Questions for Malcolm Gladwell! by matbury · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Gladwell should learn how to read and interpret research properly and also, as a non-scientist himself, learn to ask the researchers if his conclusions reflect the findings of the research. With his "10,000 hour rule" he most definitely failed to do this and he got it spectacularly wrong. If I can remember correctly, he based it on one paper on one study, investigating practice habits of violinists at a music college in (Berlin?) Germany. One paper doesn't make an adequate foundation for a generalisable conclusion, especially in the social sciences. The standard deviation in this study was huge and 10,000 hours was simply the average. In other words, some violinists practice many more than 10,000 hours to reach mastery, while some didn't no matter how many hours they practiced, but more importantly, some reached mastery in far fewer than 10,000 hours.

      Something that should ring alarm bells in your head when you read stuff like the 10,000 hours rule, and Gladwell when he writes this stuff, is that such simple, broad generalised "rules" are rare in the natural sciences and almost non-existent in the social sciences. Simply put, listening to Gladwell is a waste of time because he has neither the background knowledge and skills, nor the humilty to ask for help in critically analysing his own conclusions. But who cares when you can sell a lot of books? Never let facts and more knowledgeable people than yourself get in the way of a good story.

  2. Genetics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Today, your continued belief in the Tabula Rasa myth seems increasingly outdated and contradicted by a wide variety of research from many notable evolutionary psychologists and genetics researchers. How do you continue to believe that intelligence and ability is not significantly genetic despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary?

    1. Re:Genetics by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How do you continue to believe that intelligence and ability is not significantly genetic despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary?

      Because Political Correctness says so. This statement, while likely true, would be deemed racist and bigoted if you actually started to quantify it by any specific means.

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      Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
  3. Sharpshooter fallacy by i+kan+reed · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The areas you work in focus on very small sample sizes: software billionaires, major cultural shifts, and cases where the most improbable result happened.

    Within these areas, you've developed mental frameworks off of shared elements between each. This runs into a problem, the Texas Sharpshoot fallacy. You pick out some characteristics that are shared by the things you're looking at, and then the only available data to confirm your hypothesis is the data you extracted your predictions from.

    How did you address this when researching your books?

    1. Re:Sharpshooter fallacy by i+kan+reed · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No, it's not.

      Confirmation bias is a problem for this sort of thing too, but the sharpshooter fallacy comes from the fact that any given random dataset will have random relationships between variables. Real measurable ones. Especially in small data sets. It's like if I rolled a 6 sided die 6 times, it's very likely some numbers would show up twice and some no times.

      let's say they came up 5,5,4,2,1,1

      A reasonable person, from that dataset alone, might conclude that 5s and 1s are more likely on these dice. If you take that hypothesis, and validate it on the same set, you'll be right.

      You don't have to come in with a preconceived notion that 5 or 1 is somehow special, that you're confirming to yourself, willfully ignoring other data, if those are the only die results you ever see.

      It's a separate class of error.

  4. Did you expect the impact? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Firstly, I'm a huge fan of your work.

    Secondly, when preparing for your breakout role in 'A Clockwork Orange', did you, at the time, expect it to have such a long-reaching impact?

  5. Opinion On Basic Income by Scottingham · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm curious to know what your take is on a basic income for all US citizens versus our current 'conditional' welfare system. What do you think short term and long term outcome would be? Would the increased tax burden on the upper classes result in a total collapse rendering a basic income useless? My personal opinion is that it is necessary given the increasing rate of job automation coupled with our increasing population size (not to mention aging). Am I delusional? If so, why?

    1. Re:Opinion On Basic Income by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      My personal opinion is that it is necessary given the increasing rate of job automation coupled with our increasing population size. Am I delusional? If so, why?

      You might not be delusional, but in order to prove that it is necessary, you should at least take into consideration the fact that automation has been increasing for over a century, as well as population, and yet unemployment has remained relatively constant (ie, within a range unrelated to the amount of automation or population growth).

      If your hypothesis doesn't deal with those two facts, then it's in the realm of fantasy, not reality.

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    2. Re:Opinion On Basic Income by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Interesting

      However, both the population increase as well as the increase in automation is happening at an exponential rate

      It has been growing exponentially for a long time. There's been no correlation between either population growth and unemployment, or automation and unemployment. If your hypothesis is correct, then you need to explain the lack of correlation.

      It could lead to the abolishment of the minimum wage, which expecting people to live on is sort of a joke anyhow.

      Almost no one lives on minimum wage. Look up the demographics of a typical minimum wage earner some time, almost all of them live in a nice middle-class income household.

      Honestly though, I think it'll remain firmly in fantasy land

      Don't. Base your worldview on facts. That is the only way we'll ever get the cheap energy, because people are looking at scientific facts and how we can use them.

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    3. Re:Opinion On Basic Income by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2, Informative

      I am a libertarian. So most of what you say is meaningless in my case. However, the way the left uses terms like "Welfare to big corporations" I laugh. And when they say things like "GE didn't pay any taxes", I laugh harder. You see, it is the LEFT that creates "welfare" loopholes for things like Green Energy (Solyndra et al) used by big corporations like GE to avoid paying taxes.

      Then they equate "Tax deductions" as "Subsidies", which would mean that almost all Americans are "Subsidized" by deductions (Standard Income tax deductions) and many of those are using "Tax Credits" (EIC) as well, but they don't call those subsidies. Finally, the most interesting thing about "Big Oil" isn't that they get subsidies, credits and what not, opposed by the left. No, the most interesting thing about Big Oil is how much taxes are paid to government, direct and indirectly, by Big Oil. The government makes way more money on Big Oil than Big Oil does.

      It is like all the taxes already paid doesn't count or something. Get a real grip on taxes, and you'll realize that Big Government is out biggest problem, not Big Oil or Big Pharma, or Big Agra or ....

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      Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
    4. Re:Opinion On Basic Income by ranton · · Score: 4, Interesting

      1) A vibrant middle class is an aberration of history. I don't think we can look to history and find meaningful examples of what exponentially increasing technology will do to our current social structures.

      2) Our society determines what basic income is. Just like we determine our laws.

      3) Living in a society that respects property rights has its costs. Almost the only difference between the relatively peaceful western world and places like the unrest in the middle east is that the vast majority of our population has a lot of opportunities. You take those away and we will have the same unrest here.

      I tend to agree with Thomas Paine, who believed that all citizens have a natural inheritance created by the introduction of the system of landed property. So in return for society recognizing property rights those property holders owe society some of its proceeds. He explicitly stated this should not be considered charity.

      4) He never said he thought there would only be positive results. He did say he thinks it would be a good idea, but plenty of good ideas still have consequences. And he was openly asking for other opinions while merely offering his own; there is no need to jump down his throat.

      5) No one is saying people would be paid not to work. All people would just be told "you don't have to work to meet your basic needs." Once that burden is removed, people would still be free to work to better their lives further. Very few people would just sit around all day doing nothing, and those that do really would be the ones we want removed from the workforce anyway.

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      -- All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -- Edmund Burke
    5. Re:Opinion On Basic Income by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2

      No, what I am saying is if you kill off Big Oil, you kill off a huge source of revenue to Big Government. It is very much like the attacks on "Big Tobacco" from the 90's where we increased taxes to the point of impacting cigarette sales, and the sudden loss of revenue the taxes raised (see Laffer Curve) that were being used by Big Government for programs, that suddenly no longer have funds to drive them.

      Liberals (and NeoCons) love big government, but don't have the guts to admit that the very enterprises that they hate, are the very ones generating huge revenue for their Big Government programs.

      Short version: They want to kill the golden goose, because they don't think the distribution of golden eggs is "fair".

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      Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
    6. Re:Opinion On Basic Income by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2

      How did they get that money in the first place?

      Lets assume that it is legal. To coin a phrase "What difference does it make!!!!!!"

      Money is just a convenient shorthand.

      Yup, but you still haven't made any case that it is any business of government to take money from one person to give to another, under threat of a gun. The thing people like yourself are missing, is that government at its best is mutual consent, and at worst is tyranny. You're making the argument tyrants make, and not liberty.

      A good place to start is being able to eat real food and have a stable place to live.

      A good place to start is to realize that we already have a large number of programs that provide services to do just that. Are there gaps, I'm sure, but lets not assume for a second that these things do not exist at all, like you just did. And the moment we provide these things, then suddenly the debate changes from a bed and food to something else more than "food, water, shelter" to now include luxury items like "internet is a right" (don't even try to debate this, it is happening already)

      The message is "everybody is worth something, regardless of whether or not you are capable of 'meaningful work'. Mentally ill people, physically disabled people, etc.

      I've seen perfectly capable people not doing anything meaningful, and people who are completely disabled doing meaningful work. People are worth what they provide to society. Even mentally ill and handicapped people can contribute, and often do more than people who should be doing more but aren't. To me, it is the whole "content of character" thing.

      The value of meaningful work != the monetary value.

      Agreed. Which is why I chose those words ;)

      Seriously though, Mr. Libertarian, go fucking live on an island. If you want to say 'I got mine, fuck off' so badly, GTFO.

      You have, in a single sentence, proven you don't care if people take from you, so I suggest that you leave the keys to your car (you didn't build that), and the doors to your house unlocked, so that the less fortunate can have everything you work hard for. The thing about strawman arguments is that they cut both ways. Oh, and you forgot to mention Somalia, so please turn in your liberal card at your next chapter meeting.

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      Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
    7. Re:Opinion On Basic Income by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2

      1) Indeed. And was a result of industrious people who were rewarded for their hard work and ingenuity. The Elite Ruling Class is opposed, and therefore regulates commerce to the point of killing the middle class, in the name of "social order" and "group rights" of course.

      2) "Our Society" doesn't do any such thing. The ruling class does so only to gain economic control from those it rules. But then again, we are "too stupid" to know what is in our best interests, so we must all those smart MIT professor types to tell us what to think. Right?

      3) Living in a society where the government takes under threat of government guns, also has its costs. But you seem willing to accept tyranny in the name of social justice. Government is taking opportunities every time it regulates something, and most regulations do not solve the issues they claim.

      4) Nobody ever talks about the liberty lost in such systems. Trading Liberty for comfort is a fool's errand.

      5) Work is not a burden. A burden is someone who can work, but chooses not to and imposes his lag on society, whose burden it becomes. People proposing such a system have NO IDEA what the consequences are, or how great or disastrous it will be. None. I don't, and I think I'm a fairly bright guy. What I do know, is the unintended consequences (unforeseen) will not be "good" for society, and yet the same people who propose these kinds of things will be called upon to "fix" them.

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      Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
  6. My question by zhadu · · Score: 2

    Your books are full of bullshit masquerading as research, yet they sell like pancakes. What is the secret?

  7. Long term effects of filter bubbles/silos by An+dochasac · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There is a positive feedback between human confirmation bias and reliance on information sources which increasingly give us what we want (e.g. Google/Facebook "filter bubbles", Amazon "if you like this... you'll like that." Do you expect this to create more social balkanization and extremism or other social effects? Is there anything we can do to stop or slow this process?

  8. I read Malcolm Gladwell books for 10,000 hours... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...and now I'm an expert at cherry-picked anecdotes, post-hoc sophistry and false dichotomies. -Peter Lynn

  9. How by werepants · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You have made a career out of writing books that popularize scientific findings - it seems like this is a task fraught with potential dangers, in terms of representing something that your readers misinterpret and misapply, or perhaps taking a published study and drawing an unwarranted conclusion yourself that attracts the ire of the original researchers. Certainly, much science journalism lately can be criticized for sensationalizing scientific results in the pursuit of better headlines, sometimes at the cost of being deliberately misleading. Can you expound a bit on the issues you've run into as a purveyor of scientific results, and explain how you balance the need for a faithful presentation of the source material with the desire to find something relatable and compelling enough to write a book about?

  10. Interest in science by korbulon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Do you think you'd still be interested in science if you had gone to graduate school?

  11. Recent religious topics by werepants · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I imagine that the different circles you run in might have dramatically different responses to the religious emphasis in your recent work. What kind of reactions (wanted and unwanted) have you gotten from your recent move towards Christianity?

  12. David and Goliath and Soccer by NotPeteMcCabe · · Score: 2

    In David and Goliath, you show that the highest science students at U of Maryland are more likely to become scientists than the lowest science students at Harvard, despite the fact that the Harvard students were, before college, much more successful. The idea being that the best place to develop is at a level where you are successful. This is the opposite of the conventional wisdom for soccer. In that world, the consensus for developing players is that they should get on the best team they possibly can, even if that means they don’t regularly play in league matches. Supposedly, being around better players in practice outweighs the lack of actual game experience. This question comes up for American players regularly. Should they stay in MLS, where they start and gets lots of playing time, or move to a better team in a better league in Europe, where they often struggle to see the field? So my question is, is Soccer different than Engineering in some fundamental way, or has the soccer world just not read David and Goliath? Would a rising American soccer player be better of on the Bayern Munich reserve team or starting for the LA Galaxy?

  13. Why are you a corporate shill? by SuperBanana · · Score: 5, Interesting

    http://shameproject.com/report...

    Why did you, after college, attend the National Journalism Center, a corporate-funded program created to counter the mediaâ(TM)s alleged âoeanti-business biasâ?

    Why, as someone who is half-Jamaican, have you repeatedly associated yourself (and apparently continue to do so) with the white supremacist organization EPPC, which fights activists for economic justice?

    Why did you write for American Spectator, which churned out anti-Clinton conspiracy theories?

    Why did you recycle tobacco industry propaganda and quote lobbyists for Washington Post articles you "wrote"? Why did Phillip Morris consider you, according to their internal documents, to be a "friend" who could be counted on for pro-tobacco-industry stories?

    Why did you clearly promote drugs for treating ADHD in kids, in which you heavily quoted researchers who were paid heavily by the pharma industry?

    Why did you cite a pharma-industry cited study and defend the industry when it was attacked for high drug costs?

    Why did you blame the victims in the Enron collapse, defending executives who committed gross fraud?

  14. Globalization, not automation. by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 2

    ... you should at least take into consideration the fact that automation has been increasing for over a century, as well as population, and yet unemployment has remained relatively constant

    I am not necessarily worried about unemployment; I am worried about the increasing gap between the elite and everyone else. Early automation created the need for the middle class, as the wealthy needed trained people to run the machines. But in the past 40 years automation has become far more capable and sophisticated. It requires less people to run modern machines, but they need to be far more skilled than the last generation. This has lead to the shrinking middle class, the rising 1%, and also the rising upper middle class.

    Accelerated, more sophisticated automation didn't by itself led to a shrinking of the middle class. It is not even the primary factor. Globalization did that. A middle class that was not educationally prepare to move out of what I call "manual/rudimentary" manufacturing, and a national difficulty to operate efficiently, those two played a significant role.

    Remember, middle class used to denote blue collar jobs.

    But those jobs started to go bye bye quite some time ago. It even preceded 2000's globalization and contemporary automation. The blue-collar middle class built around the auto industry was hurt significantly when it got to compete against Japanese auto makers. Middle class jobs built around the semi conductor industry got severely affected when it could not compete against Taiwanese and Japanese semiconductors.

    In the early 90's, way before I got into college I used to work as an electronic welder out in Burbank, CA. Nice gig, but you know what, that type of job went somewhere else. A lot of people back then did not realize the seismic change, and were not equipped to re-adapt.

    It used to be the case that Grandpa would work in a good gig, a decent gig, that provided everything he needed, savings, a car and a house. Dad then would work on the same. And then the son. Nothing wrong with that. One generation would pick the trades of the previous one.

    That continuity started to break around the late 70's, early 80's, with a full spinal breakage by the late 90's. That generational-job continuity I refer to was possible because there was no industrial competition to speak off. The end of that was inevitable.

    The younger generations (some X's and most millennials) are better equipped to make the transition. It's the people within the 35-45 bracket who came out unprepared, those are the ones that are going to be limping for some time, maybe forever.

    Automation has very little to do with it because, without globalization, those people displaced by automation would have gone to do something else with little external pressure off international competition.

    The country is going to adapt, but a lot of people are going to be limping economically till that happens.

  15. Why ask Slashdot of all forums?! by maple_shaft · · Score: 2

    This is probably one of the most unfriendly forums to yourself that you could possibly engage for feedback. Do you feel that you must defend yourself to the most critical audience? Or did you pull a Malcolm Gladwell and jump into a topic that you know nothing about it and then when you realize your in over your head, decide to try and twist the evidence to fit your ill conceived hypothesis?

  16. In re: Your former editor's comments by GODISNOWHERE · · Score: 2

    Boyce Rensberger, your erstwhile editor at the Washington Post, said this a year ago in the comments section of this article:

    Gladwell is the same Gladwell as when I was his editor at The Washington Post. At first, I fell for his approach and brought him over to the science pod from the Post's business staff. Then I realized that he cherry picks research findings to support just-so stories. Every time I sent him back to do more reporting on the rest of the story, he moaned and fumed.

    When I read his proposal for "The Tipping Point," I found it to be warmed over epidemiology. It was based on a concept and a perception so old it was already an ancient saying about straw and a camel's back. But gussied up in Malcolm's writing style, it struck the epidemiologically naive as brilliant. Brilliant enough to win an advance of more than $1 million.

    What's your response?

  17. What did your dad say by Ian+Paul+Freeley · · Score: 2

    when he saw you wrote about the "Igon Value" problem? Wasn't he a math professor? http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/I...