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Harvard Scientists Say It's Time To Start Thinking About Engineering the Climate

merbs writes: Harvard has long been home to one of the fiercest advocates for climate engineering. This week, Harvard's School of Engineering and Applied Sciences published a research announcement headlined "Adjusting Earth's Thermostat, With Caution." That might read as oxymoronic — intentionally altering the planet's climate has rarely been considered a cautious enterprise — but it fairly accurately reflects the thrust of several new studies published by the Royal Society, all focused on exploring the controversial field of geoengineering.

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  1. Global warming is bunk anyway. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    We shouldn't be fooling around like this. It's obvious we don't understand, or are too corrupt and greedy to admit, that there's no problem. It's too many people's gravy train and I'm afraid the train has left the station and ain't coming back. You have to understand the difference between weather and climate. The fact that we had one warm month is weather. It is not a long term trend. It is one month. If you look at the larger picture, the last several winters have been extremely brutal (just look at what's happening to Buffalo), even enough that the deer harvest has been cut in half in my area due to high mortality to severe cold and large amounts of snow. This larger picture is climate - a longer trend - and as is obvious to anyone who has a window or a thermostat, it is definitely not warming. In fact I'd say it's doing the opposite. This could be the start of the next ice age we're living through in our very lifetimes. Sure feels like it. I'm not looking forward to my heating bills this winter if they are anything like last winter.

    1. Re:Global warming is bunk anyway. by SuperKendall · · Score: 0, Troll

      It's only "warming" in the sense of a global average

      Which also has not been warming either for the past decade or so. :-)

      For which, there are a lot of excuses but not much warming... all that time CO2 has continue to increase so obviously what temperature changes there are, is disconnected from CO2.

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    2. Re:Global warming is bunk anyway. by ganjadude · · Score: 0, Troll

      dont care for facts??

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  2. Re:We've been doing it for a long time by radtea · · Score: 1, Troll

    We've been doing unintentional geoengineering for hundreds of years now, why would some intentional geoengineering be so bad?

    Because it might allow us to continue with global trade, industrial capitalism and rising prosperity.

    Show me any practical, proven technology whose wide-spread deployment would significantly reduce GHG emissions and I will show you a green activist group vehemently opposed to it.

    Wind: http://www.energyenvironmental...

    Solar: http://www.kcet.org/news/redef...

    Hydro: http://www.theglobeandmail.com...

    And of course Nuclear: http://www.nationaljournal.com...

    Some people will claim that green activists aren't opposed to all these (and other) technologies per se but rather to these specific projects... and yet there is in fact opposition to every single specific project of sufficient scale or scope to make a difference, so that is clearly false. It is simply not plausible that every single project regardless of technology just happens to be so bad for the Earth it is worthy of vigorous opposition, unless you're against industrial capitalism, global trade and rising prosperity regardless, in which case you should just be honest and say so, and stop with all the irrelevant distractions about the climate.

    Green activists are like anti-contraception activists: they believe their target activity (industrial capitalism/sex) is bad in and of itself, and cannot ever be made good, but they disingenuously and dishonestly claim that they are opposed to it because of its potential negative consequences... and then do everything they can to prevent anyone from ameliorating those consequences.

    GA: "Global warming is bad! We must shut down industrial capitalism!"

    Technologist: "Hey, I can fix things so industrial capitalism wouldn't cause global warming."

    GA: "We must not do that!:

    Tech: "Why not?"

    GA: "Because industrial capitalism is bad!"

    Tech: "How come?"

    GA: "Because it causes global warming!"

    Tech: "But I just showed you how we can avoid that."

    GA: "We can't! You're lying! It's a trap! Industrial capitalism can't be made good because it's bad!"

    Tech: "Fuck you. I'm going to go ahead anyway."

    GA: goes away muttering, waving copy of Malthus...

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