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Kim Dotcom Faces Jail At Bail Hearing
An anonymous reader writes A bail hearing will resume on Monday at which New Zealand authorities will claim one-time internet tycoon Kim Dotcom is a flight risk and should be sent to jail to await his extradition hearing. The Crown quizzed Dotcom on his finances, contacts and even his online gaming habits this week. Authorities argued he had breached bail conditions by trying to sell a Rolls Royce and having contact with former Megaupload colleagues. Dotcom is wanted in the US on criminal copyright violation and racketeering charges.
Son, I am disappoint.
the same authorities who are on hook for damages if doesn't get sent to USA? and probably on misconduct shit even if he does get sent.
where would he take a flight to anyways? bahamas?
and wtf - why should he be isolated from former megaupload workers, seems like a proper defense wouldn't be possible without coordinating with them somewhat.
As a kiwi, I'm not a fan but this is ridiculous... hes been charged with no New Zealand crime... the search warrant was ruled by a New Zealand judge to be illegal and excessive. He's not exactly an average looking person... he would stand out
He can't sell a car? He can't talk to people to help him get money? His bail terms must be to sit and do nothing until they get him in jail permanently. He's screwed, and it shows the law means nothing if they have a grudge against you.
The evidence for extradition is tainted because it was obtained by illegal surveillance by the NZ spy agency against a New Zealand resident, they also promptly handed the evidence over the US without court approval, so its all very dodgy legally at this point. Even before we consider if conspiracy to commit a copyright infringement is an actual legal thing, let alone an extraditable legal thing.
So they're trying for a shit throwing exercise to see if they can throw enough shit and see if any of it can stick.
You (insert your name here) are hereby accused of (unstated) crime. It doesn't matter what, but it was serious enough to threaten (insert multinational corporation here) profits.
Your plea is irrelevant. Your evidence is irrelevant. Your refutation of our evidence is irrelevant. Precedent is irrelevant.
Go directly to jail. Forfeit all assets. And get your mind right.
Don't mess with Murica'. We like our free money.
I do not htink it is a coincidence that he is low on cash and now seems to be at risk of going to jail.
No money=Guilty.
Lots of money=Not Guilty, or at least it was till this point at question whether he was or not.
I thought that the recent revelation that his original NZ residency application failed to disclose a dangerous driving conviction left it open for him to be deported?
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11350895
So the whole "illegal" raid, dodgy handling of his arrest and application for his extradition could be a moot point now.
He's seriously pissed off the NZ power's that be after the Internet-Mana, mud slinging, campaign in the recent election.
That and putting John Key's mate, and ex-Mayor of Auckland, Banks in jail for failing to disclose Dotcom's donations fully.
A man with few friends, no money and a lot of powerful enemy's.
It'd be helpful if the summary reminded us why we should care w/o having to Google his name. Or even after Googling his name.
Because rape is funny?
You're fucked. Seek help.
You may notice he's not in jail. You may also notice all the evidence, including emails he wrote, is pretty much 100% showing he's guilty. Heck, he even had a personalized license plate made - GUILTY. He's bragging about it. The one and only difference between him and any other criminal caught on tape is that he "gave" you free shit (that wasn't his to give).
Dang it, I moderated this as 'Funny' but it still shows as "Informative" which it really isn't.
Now I have to write this comment just to role back the moderation.
He installed a fiber line to his house just so he could beat people at Call of Duty and be ranked in the top rank in the world. That's how much of a piece of human garbage he is.
You upset because online games aren't fair, bro? Lag is a handicap, deal with it. Change your tactics, improve your skills, and quit whining. If you want games to be fair, play LAN with your mates instead.
Why can we not simply charge certain people with being fat, unbearable, arrogant bastards. He installed a fiber line to his house just so he could beat people at Call of Duty and be ranked in the top rank in the world. That's how much of a piece of human garbage he is. He's like that fat, stupid 30-40 year old who acts like a 12 year old, flaunts the law like he's all tough and untouchable, then acts like a kicked puppy when things don't go his way. They really, really, really should just execute him to make an example for all internet neckbeard douche-trolls like him.
You are a sad, bitter little man.
Why so sure he's little? Maybe he's a sad bitter big fat man!
Really? Because some people haven't read the wikipedia page about what a waste of fat that piece of shit is.
Clearly your fat and shit are being put to good use.
You may want to get your sarcasm detector looked at, it appears to be offline.
Passport should be enough - not many ways out of New Zealand.
Really? Because some people haven't read the wikipedia page about what a waste of fat that piece of shit is.
I'm sure you are beautiful, rich and famous...
You must be new around here. Where did you get that low uid from?
Everything I write is lies, read between the lines.
'Criminal copyright violation'
They will use nuclear weapons to enforce copyright.. The thought is just so cool...
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
It's not rape, it's sphincter infringement.
Grossen FAT mein liebes kampf!
if the corrupt, criminal U.S gov has its slimy tentacles deep in the NZ gov or not.
Mega must be more successful than we think. The masters are not pleased.
What's he going to do, swim to Tasmania?
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The fact that even idiots like you are given mod points in the first place is why Slashdot's moderation system is a sad joke. If that post isn't informative enough, try here.
You must go to or have gone to UWVA? The uni allows any accused of rape to informally admit the wrongdoing and promise to be a better person in the future. No judicial system involvment at all. BTW, get caught cheating at UWVA and you are expelled. Rape some bitch (or jock, I suppose)? Okay, just don't let it happen again.
The only piece of shit here is you.
I didn't know Kim Dotcom could fly. Float, maybe.
Well in New Zealand and everywhere else. copyright infringement is a civil offense,
Will somebody please tell the ignoramuses at ZDnet that there's no such thing as a "criminal copyright violation"?
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Are you under the impression that he IS in jail?
That his custom license plate isn't GUILTY?
Certainly that history of dozens of charges and multiple convictions in three different countries never happened?
Seriously, I bet I know what you take issue with - you like getting free stuff. That's cool. You could have the intellectual honesty to admit that to yourself. He did it, he admits he's guilty, and your glad he did it because you got a ripped copy of The Fast and Furious 6 out of it. That's called being honest with yourself.
Here's something you probably didn't know even when you had glimpses of self-honesty though, and it'll twist your mind. Along with his previous convictions for fraud and all is one for pump-and-dump insider trading. Yep, he made millions screwing people over in the STOCK MARKET. The hero in your story is not only a Wall Street multimillionaire, he's such a crook at it that he stood out even there and even the financial regulators couldn't put up with a guy as scummy as him. Mind. Blown.
enemey of free people worldwide.
Someone "violates" him after all the people's copyrights he has violated.
Most of the copyrights are owned by corporations and not people. Even so, if you really think he's that bad of a person then you should get a gun and shoot yourself in the head with it. You're not using your brain for anything special. Just like all the shills and scumb who think copyright is a good thing.
You upset because online games aren't fair, bro? Lag is a handicap, deal with it. Change your tactics, improve your skills, and quit whining. If you want games to be fair, play LAN with your mates instead.
Then he would bitch that his mom didn't buy him a fast enough Ethernet or Graphics card.
No worries anonymous coward. If he has already been found guilty in the court of wikipedia why wait on the earthly jurisprudence.
All good.
Countries will extradite their citizens if they've been charged with a crime, but it has to be a crime in both countries, and it needs to be of some severity. Parking tickets aren't enough to get me extradited from Canada, even though not paying them is a misdemanor. Similarly, charging me with blasphemy in Iran and asking for me to extradited won't work either.
NZ needs to have made copyright infringement an indictable offence, and they need to have done so before Mr Dotcom was charged.
If not, and if they wish to get rid of him, they need to ensure somehow that he doesn't have a lawyer, and then hope he can't defend himself adequately.
davecb@spamcop.net
why doesn't the US DOJ expend their effort prosecuting the crooks on Wall Street whole defrauded the whole world of a trillion dollars selling those bogus Credit Default Swaps that led up to the crash of 2008?
Because immoral and illegal are two different things. CDS were not illegal in 2008, and are still not illegal now. That banks suddenly stopped trusting each other in 2008 was not Wall Street's fault, it was a failure of government and ultimately a failure of the people who elected them on the mantra of deregulation.
And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
Are we talking about American Politics again?
He know far well he was breaking copyright law and figure he was untouchable!!! As well a big douche bag, just as Julian Assange thought he would get away with leaking government secrets with now repercussions.
WTF has uni to do with rapes anyways? Cheating is their business. If you rob someone or rape someone or steal something it's none of their business. There is a police and justice system for handling those charges.
You will note those two words ARE NOT "USA". This should indicate to you that the US penal code does not apply BECAUSE THIS IS NOT THE FUCKING USA!!!
So therefore your "difference" is no difference at all.