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Kim Dotcom Faces Jail At Bail Hearing
An anonymous reader writes A bail hearing will resume on Monday at which New Zealand authorities will claim one-time internet tycoon Kim Dotcom is a flight risk and should be sent to jail to await his extradition hearing. The Crown quizzed Dotcom on his finances, contacts and even his online gaming habits this week. Authorities argued he had breached bail conditions by trying to sell a Rolls Royce and having contact with former Megaupload colleagues. Dotcom is wanted in the US on criminal copyright violation and racketeering charges.
the same authorities who are on hook for damages if doesn't get sent to USA? and probably on misconduct shit even if he does get sent.
where would he take a flight to anyways? bahamas?
and wtf - why should he be isolated from former megaupload workers, seems like a proper defense wouldn't be possible without coordinating with them somewhat.
As a kiwi, I'm not a fan but this is ridiculous... hes been charged with no New Zealand crime... the search warrant was ruled by a New Zealand judge to be illegal and excessive. He's not exactly an average looking person... he would stand out
He can't sell a car? He can't talk to people to help him get money? His bail terms must be to sit and do nothing until they get him in jail permanently. He's screwed, and it shows the law means nothing if they have a grudge against you.
The evidence for extradition is tainted because it was obtained by illegal surveillance by the NZ spy agency against a New Zealand resident, they also promptly handed the evidence over the US without court approval, so its all very dodgy legally at this point. Even before we consider if conspiracy to commit a copyright infringement is an actual legal thing, let alone an extraditable legal thing.
So they're trying for a shit throwing exercise to see if they can throw enough shit and see if any of it can stick.
You (insert your name here) are hereby accused of (unstated) crime. It doesn't matter what, but it was serious enough to threaten (insert multinational corporation here) profits.
Your plea is irrelevant. Your evidence is irrelevant. Your refutation of our evidence is irrelevant. Precedent is irrelevant.
Go directly to jail. Forfeit all assets. And get your mind right.
I do not htink it is a coincidence that he is low on cash and now seems to be at risk of going to jail.
No money=Guilty.
Lots of money=Not Guilty, or at least it was till this point at question whether he was or not.
I thought that the recent revelation that his original NZ residency application failed to disclose a dangerous driving conviction left it open for him to be deported?
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11350895
So the whole "illegal" raid, dodgy handling of his arrest and application for his extradition could be a moot point now.
He's seriously pissed off the NZ power's that be after the Internet-Mana, mud slinging, campaign in the recent election.
That and putting John Key's mate, and ex-Mayor of Auckland, Banks in jail for failing to disclose Dotcom's donations fully.
A man with few friends, no money and a lot of powerful enemy's.
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Dang it, I moderated this as 'Funny' but it still shows as "Informative" which it really isn't.
Now I have to write this comment just to role back the moderation.
Passport should be enough - not many ways out of New Zealand.
And if he was giving away all his ill gotten gains then I would support him instead of condemning him for the scumbag he is. At the moment he is little more than a Robber Baron, robbing from the rich to make himself richer.
And what of the ruling National Party, then?
The same party who, when sued for using an Eminem song without permission settled with the publishers rather than having their own houses raided, being held at gunpoint and having all their assets seized?
Seems rather hypocritical, to me. But then, they are the big money, changing the nation's laws to suit American interests.
No... He works for Bank of America...
which brings this back on topic...
Here you have someone whose offense had zero effect on the economy yet those who brought the world to its knees got billions and never even saw the insde of a court room much less a jail.
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Yes, the confiscated emails where he explicitly says they need to get more Hollywood movofies in order to make more money. That THE textbook example of criminal copyright infringement. Whether the seizure was the legal the courts will decide. We've seen the the emails, so we know that he intentionally committed another crime. Apparently you feel that you've benefited from this type of crime, so just be honest and say that. To pretend he didn't do the things he brags about doing is silly.
> More than two and a half years have passed since they shut this whole Megaupload down and did this big Hollywoodesque showoff at his mansion. Where is the due process in this?
I'm not quite following your complaint here. You are bothered that his team of lawyers has been given every opportunity to delay the hearing, over and over? You feel that due process requires that his motions for continuance and various prehearing motions be denied?
Whether the seizure was the legal the courts will decide.
NZ courts have already decided that the seizure was illegal.
Oh wait, you mean the US of A courts, the ones who claim to have legal authority over a German living in New Zealand whose company was registered in Hong Kong?
I didn't know Kim Dotcom could fly. Float, maybe.
Well in New Zealand and everywhere else. copyright infringement is a civil offense,
Will somebody please tell the ignoramuses at ZDnet that there's no such thing as a "criminal copyright violation"?
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It has. Depend on it. There will be enough immoral scum in the NZ government that they can buy and coerce quite a few people. Politicians are routinely the worst the human race has to offer, with very few exception that may qualify as people of average decency. The real question is whether they will use it for this purpose.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
I have always said fining a corporation does no good since it simply becomes a "cost of doing business" usually with their customers footing the fine.
Want to really punish a corporation? Revoke or suspend their corporate charter. Remove the protections they, and more importantly, their shareholder's enjoy. Let them feel the pain when a company does something illegal. They want to be thought of as a person, then let's treat them as a person and remove the entitlements they receive by being corporations.
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[...] over a German living in New Zealand whose company was registered in Hong Kong?
Who is not living in both Germany and Hong Kong anymore because of previous conflicts with the law, including being convicted of crimes?
Why is it so difficult for most /. readers to understand that there can be two assholes in a fight, and rooting for one of them just because you personally dislike the other isn't the answer?
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It's not so difficult to understand that both of the players in this game are fuckers. You don't need to pick one or the other. "much bigger deal" doesn't make much sense unless you are distributing limited resources. When you're the police dispatcher and you have exactly one car available and one person phones in a murder and the other his neighbours being loud, the question makes sense to decide where to send it (first). But "not being ok with something" is not a limited resource. You don't have to focus on the legal system issues and drop the Kim is a fucker part.
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