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DOOM 3DO Source Released On Github

New submitter burgerbecky writes The port that was as hellish as the game world itself, DOOM for the 3DO's source code has been released on github. The original programmer outlined the corners cut and why.

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  1. Yes another developer lead down the path .... by cold+fjord · · Score: 5, Insightful

    FTA:

    Firstly, this was the product of ten intense weeks of work due to the fact that I was misled about the state of the port when I was offered the project. I was told that there was a version in existance with new levels, weapons and features and it only needed "polishing" and optimization to hit the market. After numerous requests for this version, I found out that there was no such thing and that Art Data Interactive was under the false impression that all anyone needed to do to port a game from one platform to another was just to compile the code and adding weapons was as simple as dropping in the art.

    I'm starting to think that as a developer the automatic assumption should be that you are being hired for a death march unless there is strong evidence to the contrary.

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    1. Re:Yes another developer lead down the path .... by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      yet more on why unions as needed

    2. Re:Yes another developer lead down the path .... by ArchieBunker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ask all those steel workers how their union is going. Oh wait we don't have any steel workers anymore because they priced themselves out of a job.

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  2. Re:The fact remains... by BronsCon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Someone cared enough to post the source, with a writeup about their experience with it, someone cared enough to submit it, someone cared enough to approve it, at the very least I cared enough to read it and even browse the source a bit. At least one more of the over 7 billion people on the planet will probably care, as well.

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  3. Unions, a case study. by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Result before unions:

    Sometimes programmers hired on death marches, feel free to leave and find better work.

    Result after unions:

    All programming now inherently a death march because unskilled "coders" most senior members of any team, cannot be fired and also direct architecture.

    Leaving a job where the petty minded rulers feel like you slighted them means you will never work as a coder again because other union shops are told not to work with you.

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  4. Re:IBM and HP, please release the source! by _merlin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The trouble is there's so much cross-licensing and license pollution involved. No-one would know for sure whether a codebase contains something licensed in a way that prevents them from redistributing it in source code form. Well, IBM might, but I wouldn't expect anyone else to.

  5. Anti-worker would mean against, not for... by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yea, cause that is totally how unions work.

    Reply modeled after real world examples, including Teachers Unions.

    If you don't think any group with power over workers prevents "troublesome" workers from finding work, you are simply naive.

    nice anti-workers rhetoric

    What could be more pro-worker than protecting workers from predation? Being anti-union is inherantly being for the workers, not the overseers.

    I forgot to add the third aspect of "after union" - you make 20% less pay and your union leader lives in a mansion.

    are you just a temporarily embarrassed millionaire?

    A) Never be ashamed at having a strong opinion.

    B) Not even close to a millionaire, temporary or otherwise. I work for a living thank you very much.

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    1. Re:Anti-worker would mean against, not for... by rockout · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Being anti-union is inherantly being for the workers, not the overseers.

      I forgot to add the third aspect of "after union" - you make 20% less pay and your union leader lives in a mansion.

      Both of these assertions are such complete bullshit and make it obvious that your entire knowledge of unions is based on no real-world experience with them.

      Let's start with your "like teachers' unions" analogy. Right there you've equated a union in a public service job (government paycheck) with all unions, which is ridiculous. Yes, it's true that it's tougher to fire a teacher than it is to fire a McDonald's employee. It's also true that you have no clue about how private sector unions are formed, or why they're formed. Their primary purpose is not protectionism, it's to get paid more. You can't just lump all unions into one box and declare they're all evil. Are some corrupt? Yes, of course. Do people like you then erroneously believe they're all corrupt, just because you've got some right-wing dogma implanted in your Archie-Bunker-like skull? Yes, you do.

      When the people with 99% of the money dictate what you should be paid, and their decrees have nothing to do with your fair market value, because they're a near-monopoly that believes in getting workers for the absolute minimum amount possible, the only way to push back is with a union. You can't do it yourself, period. I'm in a union of freelancers (not programming or IT related, but I am a technician) and before the union was formed, the people in charge of setting the rates for freelancers had a "take it or leave it" attitude, even though their profits was very very comfortable - that didn't matter, they wanted more. Well, guess what? Us freelancers wanted more too. We got the union formed, and my day rate went up about 30% almost overnight. And was there less work as a result? Not at all. The execs and shareholders making the money are still making money, they're just making a little bit less profit than they were before. It's not like they were going to say, "Oh we were getting .26 on the dollar before, and now we're only getting .23 on the dollar.... fuck it! let's shut the whole operation down."

      Everyone wants to make more money. Unions are the only way for the workers to push back - if workers don't push back, they'll just make less and less and less over time. Take your anti-union rhetoric and toss it back to Fox News where it belongs. The real world is much more complex than the simple cliches you've trotted out.

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    2. Re: Anti-worker would mean against, not for... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Unions are also anti-worker because most of the ones that exist today started via mafia style tactics (threatening workers who didn't join the union and pay dues with violence, in addition to threatening business owners with violence.)

      You fully realize that at the time, the business owners were using violence themselves? Not to mention ignoring safety, paying in scrip, and all sorts of wonderful conduct that gets handwaved today, though if you have any doubts about the continued practices in this world, I'll sell you a ticket to Bangladesh.

    3. Re:Anti-worker would mean against, not for... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Didn't Apple, Google, etc. just get busted for waging fixing and agreeing not to scalp each other's employees?

      Oh sure, when companies form organizations and agreements, it's just looking out after their own interests. When employees do it...

      And this completely ignores the conditions that makes unions look attractive in the first place, that apparently only have a very limited recourse in the law. Oh sure, you can always quit and find another job, because jobs are always plentiful, and you are like the Lone Ranger, able to wander the world, free of obligation or responsibility.

      You are little better than the people that blame guns as being inherently evil.

    4. Re:Anti-worker would mean against, not for... by lgw · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Disney shareholders, Viacom shareholders... the list goes on. I care about their pockets exactly the same amount as they care about mine - zero.

      Why do you hate retired people? No, seriously - that's the vast majority of shareholders in the modern world. More than half of Americans own stock, usually as part of some 401k or pension plan (it was up to nearly 2/3s before the 08 collapse). The "owning class" is, well, everyone these days.

      Sure, ownership is unduly concentrated, but time and a broad interest in investing will fix that. All you have to do is buy stock, no 1%er can stop you.

      Why don't I and my fellow union members, in your view, have the right to seek more profit, just like they do?

      Hey, go for it, whatever. I can always sell my stock, and work elsewhere. Just don't take over an industry, that's a monopoly practice as bad as any other. I think you'll find most software developers rather enjoy the idea of meritocracy, and aren't particularly eager for a system based solely on seniority, but maybe there some group somewhere who aren't - people who think they're below average are sure to like the concept!

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  6. Cars got made by rsilvergun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    and continue to get made well in Germany with Union Labor. Also, I'm fed up with the guys putting parts on at the assembly line getting blamed for for shitty American Cars. They just tightened the bolts people. Yes, it's hard, mind numbing work; but at the end of the day it was management going to engineering to say "Make a car _this_ cheap that we can sell for _this_ much that created shitty American Cars. Engineers just do what they're told, and Management wasn't unionized.

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  7. Re:IB4 Michael Hardy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why is this rated Troll?

    It may be unlikely that the individual named in that series of articles will actually rip-off this project, but I found the articles to be "Informative", even if it's "Off-topic".

    Now, slightly-more on-topic (but not really), and in a more positive tone: Ms. Heineman, thank you for releasing this. And thank you as well for Bard's Tale III. I spent many hours watching my father play it during my youth. Many fond memories there... (Except for the memories of trying to figure out that we needed the Rainbow Dragon's blood. :) )

  8. Re:if ohshit by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Cue all the programming nazis^purists who thing that "you should never use a goto in c".

    The code's very readable - bonus points for style.

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