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The Life of an ATLAS Physicist At CERN

An anonymous reader writes: Anyone with even a passing interest in the sciences must have wondered what it's like to work at the European Organization for Nuclear Research, better known as CERN. What's it like working in the midst of such concentrated brain power? South African physicist Claire Lee, who works right on ATLAS – one of the two elements of the LHC project that confirmed the existence of the Higgs boson in 2012 — explains what a day in the life of a CERN worker entails. She says, "My standard day is usually comprised of some mix of coding and attending meetings ... There are many different types of work one can do, since I am mostly on analysis this means coding, in C++ or Python — for example, to select a particular subset of events that I am interested in from the full set of data. This usually takes a couple of iterations, where we slim down the dataset at each step and calculate extra quantities we may want to use for our selections.

The amount of data we have is huge – petabytes of data per year stored around the world at various high performance computing centers and clusters. It’s impossible to have anything but the smallest subset available locally – hence the iterations – and so we use the LHC Computing Grid (a specialized worldwide computer network) to send our analysis code to where the data is, and the code runs at these different clusters worldwide (most often in a number of different places, for different datasets and depending on which clusters are the least busy at the time)."

34 comments

  1. Two things by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 0

    1) Thank you for not using the term "Big Data" in the summary.

    2) How do you permanently disable the crappy "Slashdot Deelz" ad that always appears now, even if you click its "Fuck Off" link?

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    2. Re:Two things by AlabamaCajun · · Score: 1

      Clever way of telling someone to eat spam and get a job! I would also suggest the OP drop the F-bombs from his post and /. might offer him the no ads option.

  2. Deelz? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    > 2) How do you permanently disable the crappy "Slashdot Deelz" ad that always appe2) How do you permanently disable the crappy

    Just disable Javascript: I don't even know what you're talking about (and I probably don't know many other things I don't care about :-)

  3. Re: please take the time to read this post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This is probably one of the best posts you've made, bennet.

  4. Python + C++ = Python by kafka0 · · Score: 1

    Why is the category Python while the researcher says that coding is done in both C++ and Python?

    1. Re:Python + C++ = Python by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Make a nice pictograph for C++

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B

      vs

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python_(programming_language)

    2. Re:Python + C++ = Python by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not a pictograph, that's a trademarked logo.

    3. Re:Python + C++ = Python by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's quite likely that Python is grokked by most of the scientists there while the C++ parts are glued together by very specific people when optimization is required and used from Python. As such, while the merits of C++ are obvious, it's Python the driving part.

      Personally I would prefer to work with http://nimrod-lang.org which is a pythonesque better C++, but then it lacks all the scientific python libraries I'm used to and it seems to have troubles with multi dimension arrays.

    4. Re:Python + C++ = Python by AlabamaCajun · · Score: 1

      Python ate the C.
      I'm just happy to see C++ getting some up front attention in a highly visible project.

  5. Half Life! by HnT · · Score: 1

    Not really been wondering, we already got to witness it first-person in HalfLife! Just watch out when you notice any resonance cascade...

    --
    "Only one thing is impossible for God: To find any sense in any copyright law on the planet." - Mark Twain
    1. Re:Half Life! by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Not really been wondering, we already got to witness it first-person in HalfLife! Just watch out when you notice any resonance cascade...

      Well, we're gonna be fine as CERN has Gordon Freeman working for them. He even got a crowbar

  6. attention slashdot moderation team by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    please ban this spammar account, BlackPignouf. Clearly it is involved in peddling illegal spam. That is all.

  7. Particle Fever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    A documentary was made recently:

    "Particle Fever is a 2013 documentary film tracking the first round of experiments at the Large Hadron Collider near Geneva, Switzerland. The film follows the experimental physicists at CERN who run the experiments, as well as the theoretical physicists who attempt to provide a conceptual framework for the LHC's results. The film begins in 2008 with the first firing of the LHC and concludes in 2012 with the successful identification of the Higgs boson."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_Fever

    1. Re: Particle Fever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's on Netflix. Very enjoyable watch.

  8. Accelerator data outsourced by jovius · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Now anyone can help to analyze the data: http://www.higgshunters.org/

  9. Awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can we do the same for ITER scientists?

  10. Interesting timing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First, how a Nobel winner (in another article here on Slashdot) who has made racist (against Africans) and sexist public remarks thinks he's going to successfully auction off his award for more than $5.00 is beyond comprehension in light of THIS article about a SOUTH AFRICAN WOMAN who is a SCIENTIST.

    1. Re: Interesting timing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      same AC...and second, are enough women reading these technical news articles to propagate this notion to the female populace, or is this left up to the men to propagate?

  11. Thank You for Not Insulting Our Intelligence by Kunedog · · Score: 2

    Thank you, /., for posting an article about a woman in STEM that (for once) contains no clickbaiting headline, libel about entire groups committing discrimination & misogyny & harassment, nor the usual thinly veiled, anvilicious feminist agenda. It really is refreshing.

    1. Re:Thank You for Not Insulting Our Intelligence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you, /., for posting an article about a woman in STEM that (for once) contains no clickbaiting headline, libel about entire groups committing discrimination & misogyny & harassment, nor the usual thinly veiled, anvilicious feminist agenda. It really is refreshing.

      So you're the one that brings it up.
      Did it ever occur to you that the most appropriate action would be to not insert the politics into an article about physics?
      Thanks for nothing, Kunedog.

    2. Re:Thank You for Not Insulting Our Intelligence by Kunedog · · Score: 1

      Indeed I did consider just ignoring the editors' success, rather than highlighting their (more common) failures by calling attention to it. I nevertheless stand by my decision to congratulate them.

    3. Re:Thank You for Not Insulting Our Intelligence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed I did consider just ignoring the editors' success, rather than highlighting their (more common) failures by calling attention to it. I nevertheless stand by my decision to congratulate them.

      But that's not what you did.

      Your post is not about congratulating slashdot. You are making a political statement, and you're showing what side your'e on.
      Slashdot readers are not so stupid that we don't understand what you're saying.

      The phrasing of "libel about entire groups committing discrimination & misogyny & harassment" states your position on the discussions about male misbehavior towards females - you consider it to be libel.
      The phrasing "the usual thinly veiled, anvilicious feminist agenda" is an attack on the female perspective in the tech world because you couched it in words making it be a feminist issue. You might as well as said "feminazi agenda", but that would have been too anvilicious, wouldn't it?

      Here's a way it could be phrased ...
      Thank you, /., for posting an article about a woman in STEM that (for once) that doesn't make a it a political issue about male-female interactions.

      But that's doesn't get your dig in against those darn feminist.

  12. What it's really like ... by tommeke100 · · Score: 2

    I had a friend who was a PhD student in Experimental Physics in the late 90s.
    As part of his lab's obligations, he had to do some grunt/shift work at CERN about a week every month.
    He said unless your life is Physics 24/7, it gets boring pretty quickly. A lot of people there only talk about physics, they have no other hobbies.
    There was not much to do besides the Physics aspect.

    This seems to have changed though judging from the article, there seems to be social clubs which is certainly an improvement. Still, she (the woman in the interview) says the turn-over rate is huge, people are send there at the beginning of their PhD and get back to their home labs after a while. Looks like that aspect hasn't changed but that's probably true for most University Labs in the world.

    1. Re:What it's really like ... by claire_lee · · Score: 2

      Hi! I'm Claire (from the interview) Well, I can't say what it was like in the 90's :) but there is a good social side now, especially among the younger people, though there is certainly the possibility of ending up in the "CERN bubble" where you do nothing but physics and never even go off site when visiting (there is a basic hotel and various cafeterias on site). As for the turnover rate, it gives you a very different perspective on making close friendships, since people can cycle in and out quite quickly, so things like facebook, skype etc get pretty important in terms of maintaining friendships. I've been pretty lucky that I've been based at CERN for the past 3 years, so the crossover with friends depends only on 1 person's schedule of visiting CERN, rather than 2, where we would see each other much less.

    2. Re:What it's really like ... by tommeke100 · · Score: 1

      Cool, thanks for replying!
      Yes this was also before the LHC on the smaller loop. The community is probably larger and more diverse now. Also, this is just hearsay of one person's account from a long time ago before the age of social media :)
      Good luck with your research!

    3. Re:What it's really like ... by claire_lee · · Score: 1

      Thanks! :)

  13. Python + ROOT "C++" = Python by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 2

    Possibly because it often isn't coding in real C++. In ATLAS, and particle physics in general, we use this awful data analysis package called ROOT which is about the worst example of C++ code you can possibly imagine (although it has significantly improved over the years). This package uses a C++ interpreter so that you can write C++ scripts. Sadly this interpreter cannot implement the full set of C++ so major bits of functionality are missing like virtual functions so it's hard to really call this C++.

    Unfortunately, while there are many issues with ROOT, it is incredibly fast at I/O and has lots of features which do what we need (if you can navigate past the bugs, memory leaks and dodgy documentation). One way to do help with this is to use the Python interface so many of us use the Python interface as a shield from the full horror of ROOT. The other alternative is to write compiled C++ code which gives you the complete C++ functionality but still leaves you with the minefield of linking to ROOT. To give an example of how bad this can be a few years ago they had a bug which made you code dependent on the comments i.e. by adding a comment line the code generated a duplicate symbol error when linked. After a day of tracking this down to a pre-processor macro I was told by the root development team that they already knew about this bug but could not fix it...that was also the day I switched to using the Python interface!

  14. Re:Boring boring boring by rochrist · · Score: 1

    Um...you're aware that apartheid ended 20 years ago, right?

  15. Modern physics. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My wife is a physicist at FermiLab here in Illinois. This post pretty much describes her workday as well...