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Nature Makes All Articles Free To View

An anonymous reader writes: Scientific journal publishers have been under pressure recently by both scientists and the public to relax their restrictive rules on the sharing of information. Now, Macmillan has announced that its Nature Publishing Group will make all research papers free to read. This will require the use of proprietary viewing software, but it's a step in the right direction. "Initial reactions to the policy have been mixed. Some note that it is far from allowing full open access to papers. "To me, this smacks of public relations, not open access," says John Wilbanks, a strong advocate of open-access publishing in science and a senior fellow at the Ewing Marion Kauffman Foundation in Kansas City, Missouri. 'With access mandates on the march around the world, this appears to be more about getting ahead of the coming reality in scientific publishing. Now that the funders call the tune and the funders want the articles on the web at no charge, these articles are going to be open anyway,' he says. But Peter Suber, director of the Office for Scholarly Communication at Harvard University in Cambridge, Massachusetts, says that the program is a step forward in that it eliminates the six-month embargo that NPG demands for free archiving of manuscripts."

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  1. No they haven't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    You need a proprietary reader (just Windows and OS X). You need an institutional license if you want to access the older reports, and you need a subscription to access those going back just a few years.

    1. Re: No they haven't by Ahnahmoley · · Score: 0

      Free as in speech.

    2. Re: No they haven't by Ahnahmoley · · Score: 1

      Woop . What I meant was you're thinking free as in speech. They mean free as in beer.

    3. Re: No they haven't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Thats fucking retarded. Just offer a damn pdf like everyone else. Self righteous fuckholes.

    4. Re:No they haven't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They should release all the "old stuff" as PR, instead.

    5. Re:No they haven't by quenda · · Score: 2

      Sounds like more nurture than nature to me.

    6. Re: No they haven't by RabidReindeer · · Score: 2

      Thats fucking retarded. Just offer a damn pdf like everyone else. Self righteous fuckholes.

      Terry Pratchett wrote of grimoires in the Unseen University libary that were perilous. While you read them, they read you.

      Now they really exist. Oracle keeps sending me such publications.

      And that's not even counting the tattling that e-reader systems like Kindle, Nook, and Adobe do.

    7. Re:No they haven't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You need a proprietary reader (just Windows and OS X)
       
      Indeed. I'm ticked that I can't read these on my Roland TR-8.

    8. Re: No they haven't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, I meant free as in free from prison.

    9. Re: No they haven't by Immerman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      My kindle never tattles. I use Calibre exclusively to manage my ebook collection, and only transfer data by USB cable. Slightly less convenient, and it does prevent me from reading DRMed books, but hey, only idiots have ever claimed that freedom is free.

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    10. Re: No they haven't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's totally clear that you're a self-important, entitled asswipe, who criticizes more productive people for not doing exactly what you want. Losers like you ruined Slashdot.

    11. Re:No they haven't by Russ1642 · · Score: 1

      They're articles. If you need some extra software to read an article then you're doing it wrong. Hell, even scans of older stuff can be put out there as a PDF. Anything new should be HTML or something freely convertible to whatever format comes along.

    12. Re:No they haven't by thieh · · Score: 1

      I thought you can just take screenshots and put them in paint. But then again, there was Aaron Schwarz

    13. Re:No they haven't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The article that subby summarized is completely different than the press release from Nature's publisher MacMillan. The press release reads COMPLETELY different than the article subby linked to.

    14. Re: No they haven't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, I meant free as in free from prison.

      So, to simplify it, you meant "free, as in speech", then.

  2. Broken yet? by J'raxis · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So is the DRM broken yet?

    No? I'll check back in 10 minutes...

    1. Re:Broken yet? by NotInHere · · Score: 1

      DRM is not harmful for things that are popular. Popular things get copied anyway. However I dont think this is popular enough to motivate somebody to break the DRM.

    2. Re:Broken yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The old PtrScr works fine

  3. six-month self-archiving embargo remains by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    "The article originally quoted Peter Suber as saying that the new programme eliminated the six-month embargo NPG places on authors self-archiving manuscripts in online repositories. The six-month self-archiving embargo remains, so this sentence has been removed."

    1. Re:six-month self-archiving embargo remains by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      "The article originally quoted Peter Suber as saying that the new programme eliminated the six-month embargo NPG places on authors self-archiving manuscripts in online repositories. The six-month self-archiving embargo remains, so this sentence has been removed."

      Even if that had been accurate, it's disappointing to see Harvard adopt such a toadying attitude. They've got one hell of a brand, a massive endowment, a great deal of prestige, some excellent faculty and (at least when it comes to dealings in real estate around their campus) a...forceful...approach to negotiation. You'd think that they could put that toward a worthy cause by helping to bring the publishers to heel, rather than making conciliatory statements about pitiful little PR stunts like this.

  4. ReadCube? Never! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd be willing to pay money to not have to use that piece of crap.

    How can folks be so arrogant to assume that a professional hasn't got her workflows up and running? We are't thrilled to get *your* workflow and *the other publisher's workflow* all of them pushed down our throats.

    And we, the researchers, libraries and students are collateral damage of the turf wars of the platforms. Thanks, but no thanks. Go play bingo or blackjack in some casino, but leave us the fuck alone.

    I'll take paper over this mess any day.

    1. Re:ReadCube? Never! by The+Cornishman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yup, me too. But mostly because ReadCube is "available for both Mac and PC", i.e. no Linux. Bzzzt. Thanks for playing.

    2. Re:ReadCube? Never! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      > no Linux. Bzzzt. Thanks for playing.

      That's a deal breaker for me too. But not enough. Open, documented interfaces -- won't settle for less.

    3. Re:ReadCube? Never! by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      I suspect that they aren't so arrogant as to assume that others don't already have preferred workflows; just so arrogant as to assume that whatever best suits their revenue model is the only workflow that matters.

    4. Re:ReadCube? Never! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > I suspect that they aren't so arrogant as to assume that others don't already have preferred workflows

      Yep. Point taken. Being furious doesn't help clarity -- thanks for the correction.

    5. Re:ReadCube? Never! by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 2

      How can folks be so arrogant

      They're Nature. Along with Science, *the* leading scientific journal. They figure you can't live without them, but they can live without you. And they're right enough of the time to get away with it.

    6. Re:ReadCube? Never! by tlhIngan · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'd be willing to pay money to not have to use that piece of crap.

      How can folks be so arrogant to assume that a professional hasn't got her workflows up and running? We are't thrilled to get *your* workflow and *the other publisher's workflow* all of them pushed down our throats.

      And we, the researchers, libraries and students are collateral damage of the turf wars of the platforms. Thanks, but no thanks. Go play bingo or blackjack in some casino, but leave us the fuck alone.

      I'll take paper over this mess any day.

      Then use the existing methods, they aren't going away. And if you really do need access to Nature (or Science), you probably already have institutional access that gets you what you need.

      This stuff is more about the public not having to pay the $10 or whatever to get past the paywall and read the rest of the paper. You know, the people who don't have subscriptions to Nature.

      Now they do. Funny how people can now have a free option to read the stuff and it's not "free" enough, when before they had to pay.

      Sure it's not open access. But you know what? It's a step. Right now open-access journals have a reputation problem (see that paper that got published about a mailing list?).

      For those who hate it - well, the situation is the same as it was before - you don't have access to the paper. For those willing to run through the hoops, you just got access to it, whereas before you had to ante up. That's progress.

      And that 6-month rule has always been there, so no changes.

      Sheesh, the way people react, it's as if yesterday's access was better than today. Because yesterday you couldn't get at the paper, but today you can if you run through some hoops.

    7. Re:ReadCube? Never! by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      I was mostly quibbling; because there really isn't much you can do when in the presence of such staggering hubris. "Yeah, our business is basically selling scientists' work to themselves and getting paid coming and going while people beg for access. Anyone who opposes this is probably a commie who hates all knowledge."

      They aren't as big, thankfully; but they do a pretty good job of making the financial services sector look downright humble, hardworking, honest, and useful.

    8. Re:ReadCube? Never! by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Linux? What about Android, Kindle, and iOS? A lot of academics read papers on tablets now. If your platform doesn't support all of those (including integrating with the apps that people use for bibliography management and annotation on these devices) then it's dead in the water.

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    9. Re:ReadCube? Never! by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Are they? I was under the impression that most stuff that they publish is the pop-science puff piece that's supposed to encourage interested readers to go to the real articles. I've never cited an article from either of them and wouldn't think to look at them unless someone sends me a link, whereas I'll skim the top tier journals and conference proceedings in my field regularly to keep up to date.

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    10. Re:ReadCube? Never! by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      I've never cited an article from either of them and wouldn't think to look at them

      You may not cite them, but lots of people do. There's widely cited figures of 1999-2009 (alas, I haven't been able to readily Google something more recent) which have Nature and Science easily at the top of references per article (they're 3 and 4 for overall cites; PNAS and Journal of Biological Chemistry have somewhat more, but PNAS published three times as many papers, and JBC published over five times as many)

    11. Re:ReadCube? Never! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what's wrong with readcube?

  5. You can often Google them by umafuckit · · Score: 4, Informative

    Often if you Google "ARTICLE TITLE" + PDF you will find a paywalled research somewhere. Researchers want their papers read and will often host them on their websites.

    1. Re:You can often Google them by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Researchers want their papers read and will often host them on their websites.

      Nature apparently restricts authors from doing so for six months (on pain of not getting their next paper published in Nature, presumably).

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    2. Re: You can often Google them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or you could stand up, go to a decent library, and read the paper version. Might find something else interesting nearby, too. Oh, wait, I said "stand up" -- sorry.

    3. Re: You can often Google them by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Of course, because we all still have IDs that will get us into a reasonably well funded college library, or local public library systems with the acquisitions budget to keep their journal subscriptions current...

    4. Re:You can often Google them by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Informative

      Nature apparently restricts authors from doing so for six months (on pain of not getting their next paper published in Nature, presumably).

      Use the personal approach. Google for the author, find out where they work, check the department pages to find their email address, email them directly. I have literally never been denied a request for a copy when I managed to locate an author of a paper.

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    5. Re: You can often Google them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most (not all, unfortunately, but most) university libraries in the US have a policy of making books and periodicals available to the entire public for reading at the library--ID is only needed for checking books out to take home. This goes for journal access too: there are public-access computers in our university library that will get you to all the journals and online books to which the university has subscribed. You just have to be there in person before 10 PM (library access is restricted to students and faculty after ten for safety).

    6. Re: You can often Google them by gwolf · · Score: 2

      Yes, but that is far from enough.
      What about authors who have passed away? Whom should I write to?
      What about wnriching the globally available corpus of available knowledge? For the things I have written, I often grab tens to hundreds of articles, read a couple of paragraphs, and just casually filter them out. If it requires me begging to a third person, including the knowledge vested in that paper will not cross my mind – Unless, of course, somebody strongly points me at it.
      What about long-term archival? What if said author lost his files in a hard drive crash last year? Freely accessible knowledge is lost for good?
      Of course, it's better than having the journal as the only source for the knowledge (and them denying it), but it's not enough.

    7. Re:You can often Google them by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have literally never been denied a request for a copy when I managed to locate an author of a paper.

      You might if we all start doing that.

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    8. Re:You can often Google them by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      In the Days Before The Internet that's exactly how you got a paper. You wrote a letter, postcard and eventually a fax asking for a reprint (or preprint if you were actually in the field and knew about it). The author mailed (remember that system?) you a physical copy that was professionally printed on shiny paper (at least until they ran out).

      Then email came along and they emailed you a PDF which was actually cooler and easier. Until your University's domain got caught in their spam filters. Oh well, there is always the fax machine.

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    9. Re: You can often Google them by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Except we're talking about Nature here. If your library doesn't have a subscription to Nature, somebody needs a clue by four.

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    10. Re: You can often Google them by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      Massachusetts(and possibly some others; but I'm familiar with here) makes things a bit easier because they have the 'Minuteman Network' of interlibrary loans, and that includes both local public libraries(easy to get to; but no specialist journals) and state university libraries(less convenient; better selection); but the local universities can be a bit cold.

      MIT is quite relaxed, I don't know the exact limits of their openness; but I've never been given any trouble as long as I'm quiet and nondisruptive. Harvard? Not. So. Much. I had a buddy who worked for their library system once. Her badge couldn't even get her into library buildings other than the one her job was in. If something was misrouted in interoffice mail, she needed someone a few levels up the food chain to go collect it or escort her while doing so. Wound a bit tight.

    11. Re: You can often Google them by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      The journal "Nature" is indeed very likely. The various Nature Publishing Group journals, though, are a much longer list and a much more expensive one; and some of those are also pretty prominent and likely to contain things of interest that Nature the journal doesn't.

    12. Re: You can often Google them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MIT is quite relaxed, I don't know the exact limits of their openness; but I've never been given any trouble as long as I'm quiet and nondisruptive.

      Apparently they don't like it if you leave your laptop in the closet, downloading.

    13. Re:You can often Google them by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      You might if we all start doing that.

      If authors start getting deluged with requests for their papers, they will be motivated to post them to open access journals.

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    14. Re:You can often Google them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't all need access to papers in Nature. Hell, I have a hard time understanding Nature papers in my own field. Outside my field they're gibberish. These aren't written for the masses, so I have a hard time feeling sorry for the masses here.

    15. Re:You can often Google them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And Google Scholar will do it for you. It works great for anything in computer science or physics, but otherwise authors posting PDFs seems pretty rare.

    16. Re:You can often Google them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ^^THIS^^

      And chances are if the masses go to their local academic library they'll be able to access the journal articles.

    17. Re: You can often Google them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Try checking out your local academic library. Most all ready provision in their mandates to provide access to journal articles to the general public.

    18. Re:You can often Google them by tibit · · Score: 1

      This works quite well indeed: most of the authors, in spite of being busy, also like their egos to be stroked just a bit, every so often. Such requests a nice ego strokers.

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    19. Re: You can often Google them by tibit · · Score: 2

      I've yet to visit a regular US university library that requires any form of ID to enter to access the open stacks. Sure, if you need access to things from the non-open repository, you will need an ID.

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    20. Re:You can often Google them by umafuckit · · Score: 1

      Or just post them on their website.

    21. Re:You can often Google them by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      That's exactly what I do, when sufficiently motivated. And generally it works. (I normally include some questions or comments raised by the abstract, or whatever other report of the paper I've received) to indicate that I've RTFP (I know - Slash-Heresy!).

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    22. Re:You can often Google them by delt0r · · Score: 1

      Or just email us. I always provide a pdf to anyone who asks

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  6. Ticket 00200727 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Make sure ReadCube is available on ALL platforms, not just a few blessed ones. Your job since you impose the fscking thing."

    1. Re:Ticket 00200727 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even it was on linux it wouldn't be enough. I want to acess pdf with the software of my choice, and use scripts on them, fuck you nature.

    2. Re:Ticket 00200727 by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      , fuck you nature.

      Careful there boy, capitalization is important. You get the entire ecosystem after you, you're in trouble.

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    3. Re:Ticket 00200727 by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      And you're probably not alone. I tend to read papers on whatever the default PDF reader for the platform I'm on is, but a lot of my colleagues have preferred tools that track the PDF and citation metadata for papers and index their annotations in searchable form. They sync the data between computer and tablet. If you have a custom proprietary format, then it won't integrate with any of this, so your article won't be found (if it's read at all) by people who search their local repositories of papers that they've read to try to find the thing that they remember reading six months ago.

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  7. Good news by Chipmunk100 · · Score: 1

    I think it is a great news and they are setting a precedent.

    1. Re:Good news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's hard to see the good news underneath that shitty software they want to impose.

  8. Hopefully it collapses by damn_registrars · · Score: 3, Interesting

    With luck the software they chose for this will place a high enough load on their webservers that they will eventually collapse under the load. Once that happens they will need to seek out a way to distribute the papers that doesn't reduce their servers to smouldering rubble; there is a good chance that situation will force them to just start letting everyone view the papers as regular PDF without additional software.

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    1. Re:Hopefully it collapses by wvmarle · · Score: 2

      Or they just stop the program and we're back to where we were...

  9. better than nothing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But really, all scientific articles should be freely available from the command line for text mining.

    1. Re:better than nothing by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      Don't you worry. Once Macmillan is finished assembling a crack team of enterprise licensing experts from IBM and Oracle they'll be able to offer a special 'programmatic access' subscription tier with an API developed by someone who should have stuck with printed paper and a pricing structure as inscrutable as it is usurious!

  10. I have just one question for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who do you work for, the MPAA, the RIAA, or one of the governments that's in bed with these guys?

    I ask because you know, I know, we all know, DRM is ALWAYS harmful. It's right in the name: restriction. It's preventing the user from performing an action that could easily be done for no good reason (and no, making even more profit is not a good reason)

    1. Re:I have just one question for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not what the R stands for.

    2. Re:I have just one question for you by dave420 · · Score: 1

      Nope. It's called Digital Rights Management.

      In any given digital channel, if a publisher has a choice between releasing their licensed material with protection, or not releasing it, they will choose to (or, sometimes, have to) not release it. Without DRM there would be fewer distribution channels. No Netflix, no Hulu, no BBC iPlayer, etc. In the vast majority of cases they have to use DRM to honour licenses they have with the content they are offering. Sometimes licenses can be renegotiated, and we end up with things like iTunes etc. which can deliver DRM-free media, only because the legal hurdles have been removed. Without DRM we'd not have iTunes, as its weight caused a massive shift in how people think about draconian content protection.

      DRM has a place, and serves a purpose. It sometimes gets in the way, but if that is indeed unjust, it doesn't get in the way for long.

    3. Re:I have just one question for you by simplypeachy · · Score: 1

      No, it's "Restrictions". I don't need obstacles that prevent me from consuming my legitimately-purchased media in the ways they were intended. These things don't manage my rights, they manage my restrictions.

      My rights are that I get to play the game, listen to the music or use the program however the hell I want to. Whenever I want to, whether I'm online or not, and I get to do so without any corporate oversight.

    4. Re:I have just one question for you by Immerman · · Score: 1

      That depends entirely on whether you allow their PR department to define the acronym, or prefer the more accurate community-based definition.

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    5. Re:I have just one question for you by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      It ain't just about you, Peachy. It's about the other guy.

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    6. Re:I have just one question for you by bzipitidoo · · Score: 1

      Publishers wish they had that choice. No, the choice is, will they release it, or will they be left behind when someone else releases it, legally or not? The law can't stop piracy. DRM is just fake security, it can't stop piracy either. Nothing can stop piracy.

      Nor should we want piracy stopped. Sharing of knowledge is crucial to our advancement. It is these rent seeking parasites who are the real criminals. Their anti-social hostage taking of knowledge that they did not help create could result in us not discovering something crucial in time to act on it. I'm not talking about mere cures for diseases, I'm talking about knowledge that could save civilization. What if, unknown to us, a big asteroid is headed on a collision course with Earth, and we would have learned of it in time if some damned publisher hadn't locked the knowledge away? And that's only one of the most obvious dangers. More subtle dangers abound, anything from climate change to large scale chemical imbalances, atmospheric and magnetic changes that let radiation through.

      Bad enough that we have propagandists of the school of Big Tobacco alive and doing well, we should not make life even easier for them. Copyright is too often misused for censorship, with DMCA takedown notices one of their favorite methods.

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    7. Re:I have just one question for you by Immerman · · Score: 1

      That would imply that the system only manages the things they have a right to - to wit, copying. That is clearly not the case. They have no right to restrict which devices/programs I use to consume my content. They have no right to restrict my ability to transfer a legitimate purchase to a friend. They have no right to record the books in my library, nor even the fact that I own the book in question. Those are all extra-legal privileges that publishers have acquired due to technological restrictions and the DMCA that makes it illegal to bypass them.

      By my count the extra-legal restrictions and privileges far outnumber the one right. So tell me again why the R should be interpreted as "Rights"?

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    8. Re:I have just one question for you by simplypeachy · · Score: 1

      You made me feel like we're in the desert and I just went off on a slightly drunken rant. Did you see that oasis over there?

    9. Re:I have just one question for you by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      Perhaps more fundamentally, you cannot 'manage rights' without managing restrictions (since if a user lacks a right, they are to be restricted from doing it) and you cannot 'manage restrictions' without managing rights(since, if a restriction is not imposed, the user possesses a right).

      It sounds nicer to talk about 'rights management' rather than 'restriction enforcement'; but the moment you make permission something that is technically enforced, 'rights' and 'restrictions' are inextricably linked.

    10. Re:I have just one question for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (since, if a restriction is not imposed, the user possesses a right).

      False false false! This is how the DRM snake oil salesmen swindle the copyright holders.

    11. Re:I have just one question for you by NotInHere · · Score: 1

      There is no neutral backronym for DRM -- just like "movie pirates" or "movie freeeloaders" both terms show your position towards the topic. Best is to use DRM.

    12. Re:I have just one question for you by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      You do realize that there are publishers that deliberately release stuff without DRM. There are Nook eBooks that come with statements that the author or publisher has requested no DRM, but please respect copyright anyway. Baen at least used to offer a lot of books for free with no DRM (haven't checked lately).

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  11. I misread the heading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mature Makes All Articles Free To View

    Why is there an article about MILFs on SlashDot?

  12. Has Wilbanks ever lived off of content he produced by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Give it all away for FREE! Have you ever produced content that has value? Have you ever tried to live off of sales of that content?
    If you are a College professor trying to get tenure, you want stuff "published" just to have it on your resume.
    People who write VALUEABLE articles would like some compensation for it. Even if that compensation comes from ad revenue from the eyeballs reading the article.

  13. Nature Still on My SH*T List by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nature is still on my SH*T list, along with the NYT and the Washington Post. I always check from whence articles are linked on news aggrgator sites (such as this), and if the link is on my SH*T list, no clicks.

    1. Re:Nature Still on My SH*T List by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Really! I'm serious! I'm staying away from anyone with links to someone I'm mad at! And furthermore, I'm holding my breath, starting now, until they acquiesce. I'm serious! I'm not bluffing! One, Two, Three... I'm not kidding, Nature!!

  14. Re:Has Wilbanks ever lived off of content he produ by petermgreen · · Score: 1

    The thing with academic articles is the people and who write the articles and the organisations they work for DON'T get any compensation from the journals. In many cases the reviewers don't either. This applies regardless of whether the paper is worthless drek or a major breakthrough.

    People are getting pissed off with a model where research paid for primerally by taxpayers and performed by universities is locked up by journals for their own profit.

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  15. Re:Work smarter, not harder, by n6kuy · · Score: 1

    > (and be careful of your speling).

    Ha!

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  16. Re:Has Wilbanks ever lived off of content he produ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People are getting pissed off with a model where research paid for primerally by taxpayers and performed by universities is locked up by journals for their own profit.

    This!

  17. Re:Has Wilbanks ever lived off of content he produ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If only researchers didn't get compensated. To have my paper appear in the proceedings of a conference, my employer has to pay an entry to send me speak (aka contribute more content to their paywalled garden) over there. That's _after_ the reviewers said "having this paper in our proceedings wouldn't make us look bad."

  18. Re:Has Wilbanks ever lived off of content he produ by EzInKy · · Score: 1

    Humanity has long passed moved beyond survival of the individual. Survival of the species is the only thing that has value today.

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  19. Re:Has Wilbanks ever lived off of content he produ by Immerman · · Score: 1

    You have a funny definition of value. Those articles by college professors who want to be published for glory and tenure lay the foundation for virtually all the technological advances of our civilization. But I'm supposed to believe they're less valuable than a some story/painting/recording that nobody will remember a century from now?

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  20. Add one letter, and... by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

    Nature Makes All Particles Free To View

    Trippy.

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    systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
  21. Surface Pro by tepples · · Score: 1

    A lot of academics read papers on tablets now.

    Is this a ploy to get people to buy Surface Pro tablets, which run Windows?

    If your platform doesn't support all of [Android, Kindle, and iOS] (including integrating with the apps that people use for bibliography management and annotation on these devices) then it's dead in the water.

    Say a platform says "Android and Kindle Fire: Download reader from Google Play or Amazon Appstore now! iOS: Coming soon." If this is is unacceptable, then how does it benefit anyone to keep the Android reader unavailable to the public pending approval of the iOS reader by Apple?

  22. Player key by tepples · · Score: 1

    Sure, a DRM platform owner could document the interface. But it would require a player key, which your reader won't get unless it's non-free (to meet robustness requirements).

  23. How well does it work in Wine? by tepples · · Score: 1

    What problems did you encounter when trying ReadCube for Windows in Wine? Its AppDB currently does not list ReadCube. Or is it like PunkBuster and GFWL, which intentionally require bit-perfect copies of Windows system files to be present on the disk?

    1. Re:How well does it work in Wine? by The+Cornishman · · Score: 1

      > What problems did you encounter when trying ReadCube for Windows in Wine?
      My dear fellow, I didn't go that far off the beaten track! On clicking "Get ReadCube", I got a page that said (I kid you not) "Aw, shucks, ReadCube is not available for your platform". Aw, shucks!?? WTF, I didn't come here to be talked to in that tone of cyber-voice. As I said, BZZZZT!

  24. Re:Has Wilbanks ever lived off of content he produ by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

    If only researchers didn't get compensated.

    They don't, in fact they have to give Nature money and copyright to get their article published and that's after reviewers have said "this changes everything". What every researcher wants is to be published in Nature or Science, such a paper is more valuable to their career than their Phd. These journals are #1 and #2 in academic rankings because they have built up that reputation over a century or more. Yeah, their business model needs to open up but you can't blame them for being cautious, nobody wants to see either institution go belly up (other than the anti-science mob).

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  25. Going forward? by Mr_Wisenheimer · · Score: 1

    The question is, will Nature be "free" going forward? If not, what limitations will be put on it.

    Reading the article, it seems that the way this is going to work is that non-subscribers cannot access nature articles (which is disappointing), but anyone who does have access to the articles can share them with anyone who does not have access.

    It is still a much better solution than the current one, which requires you to either pay or to login to your institution and search.

    At least it is a step in the right direction.

  26. where is the torrent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ???

    captcha = lawsuit