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DOJ Launches New Cybercrime Unit, Claims Privacy Top Priority

msm1267 writes: Leslie Caldwell, assistant attorney general in the criminal division of the Department of Justice, announced on Thursday the creation of a new Cybercrime Unit, tasked with enhancing public-private security efforts. A large part of the Cybersecurity Unit's mission will be to quell the growing distrust many Americans have toward law enforcement's high-tech investigative techniques. (Even if that lack of trust, as Caldwell claimed, is based largely on misinformation about the technical abilities of the law enforcement tools and the manners in which they are used.) "In fact, almost every decision we make during an investigation requires us to weigh the effect on privacy and civil liberties, and we take that responsibility seriously," Caldwell said. "Privacy concerns are not just tacked onto our investigations, they are baked in."

61 comments

  1. Let me be the first to say.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    aaaaaahahahahahahaha

    1. Re:Let me be the first to say.... by TheCarp · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Whats so funny? Of course Privacy is their top priority.... they always want to seek out and destroy it wherever they find it. Its enemy #1

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    2. Re:Let me be the first to say.... by LifesABeach · · Score: 2

      It's amazing, the one part of the government that should not be private, is trying to be.

    3. Re:Let me be the first to say.... by davester666 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      what's so funny?

      they will totally protect the privacy of the people that are part of this 'cybercrime' unit. everyone else's, not so much.

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    4. Re:Let me be the first to say.... by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure whether I'm hopeful or ironically amused that this is currently on the Slashdot front page a few slots above a story called "Ron Wyden Introduces Bill To Ban FBI 'Backdoors' In Tech Products".

      Inescapable truth of the day: If you force developers to build back doors into their hardware or software that your people can exploit, you also force them to build in back doors that anyone else can exploit.

      You can't value and protect security except when you later decide you don't want it to be there. This is that rare kind of issue, a truly black and white one: either some hardware/software/communication has a certain vulnerability, or it does not.

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  2. I'll trust you more when... by RandomFactor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You stop throwing the 'T' word around at companies/people for doing things like encrypting our handheld devices.

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    --- Mercutio was right.
    1. Re:I'll trust you more when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Obvious troll is obvious.
      Idiotic view is idiotic.
      'Nuff said.

    2. Re:I'll trust you more when... by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      Administrative note, it was the DOJ that was making this statement. Little fuzzy balls with Gernade Launchers are just a part of it.

    3. Re:I'll trust you more when... by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 1

      ...wrote the Anonymous Coward.

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    4. Re:I'll trust you more when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It could be an obvious troll, or it could be a nice bit of sarcasm. I must admit I am not sure.

    5. Re:I'll trust you more when... by HiThere · · Score: 1

      No, no. The police are SOME of the terrorists. There do exist terrorists who are not police.

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      I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
  3. That's exactly what we need by qbast · · Score: 2

    I feel greatly reassured. Don't you?

  4. So let me see if I get this right. by therealkevinkretz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ... the head of one agency in the executive branch has said that it needs backdoors to be installed in devices (or the terrorists win). And now there's another agency (in the *same department*) whose "top priority" is the exact opposite?

    1. Re:So let me see if I get this right. by pla · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you read carefully, you'll see that nowhere does Caldwell mention increasing privacy. Just that it counts as a top priority.

      "Privacy concerns are not just tacked onto our investigations, they are baked in" makes perfect sense, and doesn't at all contradict the idea that the FBI wants backdoors into everything, or that the NSA already has them. The fact that they want backdoors is a valid privacy concern: How can they most efficiently strip the public of it.

      Amazing what you can say without lying, when you carefully pick your choice of words.

    2. Re:So let me see if I get this right. by wbr1 · · Score: 1

      His goal is not the exact opposite. It is to spin yams to make us trust that the backdoors are necessary AND actually enhance our privacy.

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    3. Re:So let me see if I get this right. by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      Its interesting that both are stroking the same unit.

    4. Re:So let me see if I get this right. by Matheus · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's a PR division pure and simple. Good Cop Bad Cop as literal as it gets.

      "FBI did something 'bad' so we gave them a spanking... of course they like spankings so we gave them a bunch more and OOOH BOY that was fun! Then we went out and got wasted. Good times."

    5. Re:So let me see if I get this right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They want to have their cake and eat it, too. Just like in that South Park episode about supporting the troops and protesting war.

    6. Re:So let me see if I get this right. by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

      I see, you read that wrong. Privacy is one of their top priorities. The problem is that you think of privacy as a good thing. They, on the other hand, view privacy as a bad thing. So, privacy is a top priority for them. That is making sure that you have as little as they can possibly manage.

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    7. Re:So let me see if I get this right. by TangoMargarine · · Score: 1

      These are the guys they hire to feel bad about the whole thing and publicly wring their hands.

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    8. Re:So let me see if I get this right. by Shortguy881 · · Score: 1

      Not really. The article says "However, a large part of the Cybersecurity Unit’s mission will be to quell the growing distrust many Americans have toward law enforcement’s high-tech investigative techniques."

      Quell in this context sounds more like "We will find those spreading distrust and remove them from the population." Then they can have their cake and eat it to.

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    9. Re:So let me see if I get this right. by LessThanObvious · · Score: 1

      So what I'm hearing is that "Parallel Construction" based on NSA data, the use of Stingrays and the various creative ways law enforcement has found to get out of justifying warrants is just a misunderstanding. That is a relief, for a while there I though there was cause for concern.

    10. Re:So let me see if I get this right. by kwbauer · · Score: 1

      And "affordable care" costs more. And they also want to increase my freedom by applying more restrictions. The word is "Orwellian."

  5. Utter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bullshit.

    When they say they claim security is a top priority they mean invading your privacy is the top priority.

  6. No no... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Increased privacy for GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES. For the average pleb though, expect further intrusions into your personal lives.

  7. Secure in Not Knowing by ememisya · · Score: 1

    Even if that lack of trust, as Caldwell claimed, is based largely on misinformation about the technical abilities of the law enforcement tools and the manners in which they are used.

    I doubt it's a good idea to bank on the fact that being uneducated about a subject would lead to safety. There has never been a good way to balance this, hence the Bill of Rights.

  8. Misinformation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    (Even if that lack of trust, as Caldwell claimed, is based largely on misinformation about the technical abilities of the law enforcement tools and the manners in which they are used.)

    So they're going to combat this "misinformation" with complete, clear details about these abilities and manners of use, right?
    It's rich to complain about misinformation while making your local police sign NDAs.

    1. Re:Misinformation by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      What is really impressive is that local police can sign an NDA. I think it could be a skill level test.

    2. Re:Misinformation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They have to spell it first. Kind of like Windows admins and DNS.

  9. violating privacy you mean by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    trust them, not.

  10. I find these claims... disturbing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nice to see they've caught on to the winds of change, but so far chances are it's blowing smoke or hot air or something else again.

    We'll have to see, won't we?

  11. So let me see if I get this right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Seems par for the course, the right hand does not know what the left hand is doing.
    Or care.

  12. The DOJ is itself a criminal organization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The DOJ is itself a criminal organization that violates the law at every opportunity to do so. How can we even accept anything they say? I certainly don't. There is no real difference between them and the mafia. The government has sanctioned and promoted outright STEALING of money by law enforcement. No charges need be brought against you to take your money. And if you want it back it costs more to reclaim it then what was stolen generally speaking. Then they hand those who stole the money a percentage of it to encourage repeating that outright legalized theft.

    The the system encourages the blackmailing of accused through trumped up the charges in the hopes of scoring a 'win' (conviction) for there future employment and political opportunities. Prosecutors are not impartial and yet are suppose to be. They're suppose to hand over evidence and yet consistently fail to do so where that evidence may help the defense.

    The courts have standardized sentencing guidelines that ensure defendant do not fight the charges in court. While you would think such guidelines that ensure fair and equal treatment for similar crimes would be a good thing the reality is they'll try and get you for 20 years in jail for even petty crimes-just to get you to accept a lesser charge which might include a $100 fine and no jail time. The only people who win are the judges, prosecutors, lawyers, and law enforcement officers who participate in this criminal system.

  13. More like ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... from the "bwahahahahahaha!!!!!!!" department.

  14. um by Charliemopps · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "In fact, almost every decision we make during an investigation requires us to weigh the effect on privacy and civil liberties, and we take that responsibility seriously,"

    That's nice, but your statement highlights the real problem here... which is that federal agencies seem to think that they get to weigh the value of our civil liberties against the value of our safety. That's not the case, these agencies do not get to make a judgment about just how much of our privacy and/or civil liberties they're allowed to violate. They're not allowed to violate them... AT ALL... without a warrant or conviction. It doesn't matter how careful they are. It doesn't matter what the consequences of respecting my civil liberties are.

    I invite all who read this to familiarize themselves with the first passage of the decleration of independance, the document upon which this country was founded:

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

    Specifically, our rights are unalienable They cannot be disregarded for some greater good. They can only be removed by God. And the government is not our God... the government is our creation, our tool. It works in our interest. And above all, above even security, or justice, our interest is our constitutional rights.

    "Give me Liberty or give me death" was clear... Remaining safe and alive but wrapped in chains isn't being alive at all.

    1. Re:um by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 0

      Actually they do because we the people authorized them to do so. When a member of Congress authorizes a federal agency to act in that capacity they are acting on your behalf. That's what a representative government does. You might not like it but it does not mean that federal agency is engaging in an illegal behavior. Now if you want to change what they can do or raise the threshold by which that can do something, you can by working through your representative.

    2. Re:um by Charliemopps · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually they do because we the people authorized them to do so. When a member of Congress authorizes a federal agency to act in that capacity they are acting on your behalf. That's what a representative government does. You might not like it but it does not mean that federal agency is engaging in an illegal behavior. Now if you want to change what they can do or raise the threshold by which that can do something, you can by working through your representative.

      We CANNOT authorize the federal government to violate our rights without a constitutional amendment. That's the point of the constitution. It's a framework that the federal and state governments are bound to work within. Laws cannot be passed that violate the constitution. The constitution is very clear about when and how we lose those rights. Namely, when there's a warrant or we're convicted of a federal crime. There is, at no time, a way in which the government can legally search your property or correspondence without a warrant. Ever... under any circumstances. And we could not pass a law that allowed them to. Ever. We'd have to amend the constitution to make such a thing possible.

      What the federal government is doing is without a doubt unconstitutional. The problem is, they are very aware of that fact. They see the constitution as an obstacle to their goal of "keeping us safe" As a result, they've gone to extraordinary lengths to hide their activity. They've made it very difficult to bring up their activity in court and challenge its constitutionality. As of yet, no challenge has ever been made to the federal government absent a trial. Basically, they are using the information they are garnering to disappear people into foreign governments that do not have our protections. They are not using he information to try and convict anyone so no-one can challenge its constitutionality. Efforts are being made by the ACLU and the EFF but it's a very difficult process.

      If you truly understood what was going on, you'd be terrified. This is the path to Totalitarianism... despotism. The road we're on leads no-where good, and it's sad that our president, a constitutional scholar of all things, has actually expanded the activity.

    3. Re:um by TangoMargarine · · Score: 2

      Actually they do because we the people authorized them to do so.

      I wish we could call for a vote of no confidence in our government or something.

      Also I would LOVE it if we had double dissolutions when our legislative houses deadlock on stuff like keeping the government open. Unfortunately of course, the country is gerrymandered five ways from Sunday so I'm sure such an election would have little to no actual effect.

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    4. Re:um by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Laws cannot be passed that violate the constitution.

      Come on. First, in a literal sense, laws that potentially violate the Constitution are passed all the time. There is no automatic judicial review of laws. Citizens have to actively challenge laws in court. But, I know what you really mean, and the Constitution establishes the Supreme Court to decide what is constitutional. So, while you may think something is "without a doubt unconstitutional," if the Supreme Court disagrees the only recourse is to convince enough people we need to reverse course and overturn the law.

      The parent's point stands, we authorized all of this. We authorized it by electing the people that put this stuff in motion. We continue to authorize it by repeatedly not voting them out of office. We continue to authorize it by not engaging in massive legal campaigns challenging the constitutionality of the laws. We continue to authorize by just not caring enough to do anything about it.

    5. Re: um by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Liberal BULLSHIT, this consent of the governed NONSENSE is a manufactured lie to build unanimous consensus where it doesn't exist. Clearly not everyone authorizes this therefore it is illegitimate.

      For once I would like fuckwits like you to just admit that you don't really want to see change, hence your endorsement of methods which are known not to work. This is yet another attempt at misdirection from some right wing cocksucker.

  15. A new corollary for an old proverb by Marginal+Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Reagan famously reminded Gorbachev of the old Russian proverb, "Trust but verify." Here's a corollary for the modern age: "Trust but encrypt."

    1. Re:A new corollary for an old proverb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Why trust them at all? What have they done to earn it?

  16. It's good to see DOJ hiring the transgendered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like Baghdad Bob got a sex change operation.

  17. Ok, here is how to fix it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you are serious, here is how to fix it. Bring up charges for lying to a government official everyone that has used parallel construction to subvert ours rights. It was a lie, lying is an actionable crime, it is enforced against us, enforce it against you.

    Publicize these cases and tell us that method was used, and tell us it was wrong for you to do that.

    Until you do, talk is cheap.

  18. Woot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I feel so fucking safe and secure right now that it's like I'm walking around in South Central wearing a red shirt.

  19. Oh goody another agency to ignore the Constitution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just another resource for parallel construction.

  20. Privacy from whom? by kidsizedcoffin · · Score: 1

    Notice what she says: "She went on to note that the DOJ dedicates significant time and resources to protecting the privacy of Americans from criminals who steal financial and credit card information, online predators that stalk and exploit children, and cyber thieves who steal the trade secrets of American organizations." The DOJ may very well still be spying on you. She even throws in the "for the children" card.

    1. Re:Privacy from whom? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why did it take so long for someone to make this point?
      Privacy from the government is an important concern, but they're not trying to steal your financial information--they don't need to.
      I'm much more concerned about the criminals who aren't funded by taxes.

  21. Am I the only one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...who thinks the guiding principle of prosecutions will be "Privacy for me [Govt institutions, corporate entities, 1%-ers] and none for thee [everyone else]"?

  22. DOJ can easily restore trust by... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Initiating prosecutions for:

    * High level intelligence officials lying under oath to Congress
    * Violation of the 4th amendment (and any pertinent wiretapping laws) by the NSA due to overarching packet inspection
    * Sabotage of American's security by secretly introducing backdoors, like was done in RSA BSAFE

    This would go a long way to helping restore the trust of citizens in their government.

    1. Re: DOJ can easily restore trust by... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haha no accountability won't work, I suggest going to the voting booth to elect your dictator, that will cure ALL ills because the system DOES work.

      FOR YOU!

      MERICA!!!!!

  23. Privacy is the top priority . . . by Tanman · · Score: 1

    Yup, I bet it is. They definitely need to find a way to sidestep privacy ASAP so all these damned civilians can be properly monit^H^H^H^H^H kept safe.

  24. I dub thee 'Ministry Of Privacy' by Burz · · Score: 1

    ...in the Orwellian tradition.

    1. Re:I dub thee 'Ministry Of Privacy' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I, for one, certainly bellyfeel that MiniPri will only send the ungood to MiniLuv for crimethink.

  25. Reality is... by blahplusplus · · Score: 1

    “The technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities. ”--Zbigniew Brzezinski, Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era, Former United States National Security Advisor.

    http://www.amazon.com/Between-...

    The (mass surveillance) by the NSA is just more part and parcel of state suppression of dissent against corporate interests. They're worried that the more people are going to wake up and corporate centers like the US and canada may be among those who also awaken. See this vid with Zbigniew Brzezinski, former United States National Security Advisor.

    http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesa...

    http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesa...

    http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesa...

    And then...

    WIKILEAKS: U.S. Fought To Lower Minimum Wage In Haiti So Hanes And Levis Would Stay Cheap

    http://www.businessinsider.com...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    Free markets?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    http://www.amazon.com/Empire-I...

    http://www.amazon.com/Democrac...

    "We now live in two Americas. One—now the minority—functions in a print-based, literate world that can cope with complexity and can separate illusion from truth. The other—the majority—is retreating from a reality-based world into one of false certainty and magic. To this majority—which crosses social class lines, though the poor are overwhelmingly affected—presidential debate and political rhetoric is pitched at a sixth-grade reading level. In this “other America,” serious film and theater, as well as newspapers and books, are being pushed to the margins of society.

    In the tradition of Christopher Lasch’s The Culture of Narcissism and Neil Postman’s Amusing Ourselves to Death, Pulitzer Prize-winner Chris Hedges navigates this culture—attending WWF contests, the Adult Video News Awards in Las Vegas, and Ivy League graduation ceremonies—to expose an age of terrifying decline and heightened self-delusion."

    On reason:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  26. Of course by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... Privacy concerns are not just tacked onto our investigations ...

    Of course they aren't. The police don't want anyone knowing how they really collected that evidence.

    ... public-private security efforts.

    No, not the need of public citizens to protect their records of private acts. The need of private corporations to protect their records of public citizens. On the one hand it's a half-step in the right direction. On the other hand, it's nationalizing the cost of corporate security.

  27. "requires us to weigh the effect on privacy and.." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's your problem:

    YOU should not weigh those effects; they should be weighed by a court EVERY SINGLE TIME.

  28. BULLSHIT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Privacy is a non-functional requirement. It is not possible to weigh the effect on privacy. Paying lip service is just adding insul tto injury.

  29. When they say they care about privacy... by ayesnymous · · Score: 1

    They care about the NSA's privacy. They don't want anyone to know what the NSA is doing.