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EU May Not Unify Its Data Protection Rules After All

jfruh writes: One of the EU's selling points is that it provides a single regulatory apparatus for the entire European market — but this isn't the case for everything. Data protection laws, for instance, provide a confusing thicket of different regulations across the continent, and now, much to the frustration of large American Internet companies, it seems that a plan to consolidate these rules under a single EU agency are coming apart. In other EU news, reader Presto Vivace points out that German Chancellor Angel Merkel has spoken out against net neutrality. She said, "An innovation-friendly internet means that there is a guaranteed reliability for special services. These can only develop when predictable quality standards are available."

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  1. Special service available!=net neutrality violated by drolli · · Score: 3, Interesting

    IP packets had a TOS field from in the beginning. IP v6 has this again. I am fine and appreciate prioritization/TOS if:

    * ISP explicitly list these classes of traffic in their Terms
    * Everybody (no matter if google or a 1 person specialized SW shop) can buy priority traffic on the backbone with a specific latency/reliability class
    * Traffic/Capacity is traded only trough a open market (tick exchange), with no "secret deals"
    * Costs for traffic appear separately on the bills of the customers - even if the overall product is free.
    * The "last Mile" is a deal between the Customer and *his* ISP. Cross financing the last mile from other businesses should be considered as abuse of a vertical monopoly.

  2. Re:Special service available!=net neutrality viola by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah, give them an inch. See where that ends.

  3. Understandable given the nature of the EU by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The EU is very much a group of independent countries that have agreed to work together on many issues but have not been willing to give up sovereignty to the point where an EU law has supremacy over local laws. A a result, EU rules tend to be a lowest common denominator with individual countries adding on their own requirements. That's not unexpected since the EU is not a country like say the US where there is a federal system that has sway over the individual states, district and territories that make up the US; where there is agreement the EU works well and but individual countries still have the real power in the union and there still is a very distinct nationalism at play in the political and economic dynamics. That's not necessarily better or worse than other models but just a reflection of how the EU came into being.

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    1. Re:Understandable given the nature of the EU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's pretty much what the US started out as under the Articles of Confederation. It didn't work for long. The EU is learning that lesson too: having a monetary union (centralized control of monetary policy, removing that from the individual nations' economic toolsets) but no fiscal union was a recipe for sovereign debt problems from the beginning, and patchwork regulations across the EU do lead to real problems for cross-border import and export. Tighter EU integration from the start would have been easier and more productive, except that the EU dream, that started out so magnificently, has devolved into the bureaucratic swamp that Brussels/Strasbourg is today, in no small part as a result of being a lowest common denominator. Farage's insulting "low-grade bank clerk" could, in sad truth, easily apply to the general appearance of the EU as a bureaucratic entity rather than just its former leader: the institution as it stands is a far cry from the noble promises of a strong, unified Europe. The nationalists may well be too strong to allow that to happen, though, and the longer they drag out the current, disjointed state of the EU, the worse the bank clerk will get. Pretty much all that the EU has going for it now is that it's not the US or Russia, so people see still it as a less bellicose and freer option.

    2. Re:Understandable given the nature of the EU by r1348 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Fine, but give me a democratic EU. I want a say in what the European Commission decides, I want to finally understand whatever the Council of European Union is (seriously, nobody seems to know), I want a democratic European Parliament with the power of legislative initiative. Anything else is a nice-looking dictatorship.

  4. In other news by prefec2 · · Score: 2

    The German government was in favor of net neutrality. If Merkel's reelection might be in jeopardy due to her position on net neutrality she will change her position. So this is not the end of it.

    Furthermore, if a fragmented EU market hinders US monopolies to extend their services to the EU then this is not necessarily a problem for the citizens here in the EU.

  5. Re:Special service available!=net neutrality viola by gcnaddict · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Everyone who doesn't have a personal stake in the game is naturally inclined to act recklessly. See the decade-ly cycles of recession and depression economies slip into when markets (housing, finance, oil, whatever) forget that someone else's money is still of value and not to be treated with total abandon.

    The decisionmakers at ISPs don't have a piece of skin in this fight because they have special classes of access just as a benefit of being where they are within their companies, and they stand to make more personally from making profit-minded decisions. For these reasons, there's very little personal incentive to uphold the moral high ground because the decisions don't have an immediate negative impact on them. They might feel it once they retire and/or if they go to a different industry, but that's after they've made their profit, and it's long after their short-term decisionmaking window.

    It's just human nature. We haven't had this trait bred out, and it's doubtful we as a species ever will. The only way to counter short-sighted thinking is by shortening the mental leap between short-sighted decisions and long-term consequences, which is what everyone fighting for net neutrality is trying to demonstrate right now by citing live examples of where a lack of enforcement has already gone wrong (T-Mobile Unlimited Music, Netflix v. Comcast/VZ, etc.)

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  6. Thanks Momma Merkel! by Rhywden · · Score: 4, Informative

    Let's not forget this statement of Momma Merkel comes from the same woman who stated that the "Internet is virgin territory" merely a year ago.

    She simply does not understand internet issues and thus promptly falls back on an industry-friendly position.

    1. Re:Thanks Momma Merkel! by CanEHdian · · Score: 2

      She simply does not understand internet issues and thus promptly falls back on an industry-friendly position.

      Perhaps she fully understands the Internet issues, but it's just more lucrative to side with the industry (who also understand Internet issues) than with the users (who for the vast majority do not understand Internet issues). Same with patent term extension on pharmaceuticals; it's always hidden on the 3rd or 5th page of the business section and in the "may" pay more (vs. generics) language bracket. Same with copyright term extensions: items that would become public domain do not, which DOES rob society. As long as the majority of society doesn't understand the issue, greedy politicians will always side with the money or power or fame.

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  7. Re:Special service available!=net neutrality viola by drolli · · Score: 2

    It is fine if i have to pay for more bandwidth/allocated bandwidth.

    As long as everybody has to pay the same price for this. Because then I (as a customer or provider) can compete in a special area with google.

    If only companies who can affort their own ATM networks and are powerful enough to push anybody else to give preference to their traffic, then nobody can compete.

    Which is why i think a mandatory split of companies into branches and trading of bandwidth of all kinds (guaranteed, allocated, and opportunistic) on a stock marekt would be appropriate.

    And actually: yes, there is traffic, which I as a consumer need with higher priority than other traffic. I just would appreciate if I have the choice.

  8. Re:Special service available!=net neutrality viola by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 2

    Your suggestions have one fatal flaw, there is zero chance to actually policy that.

    Did you actually verb "policy"?!

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  9. Re:Special service available!=net neutrality viola by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sorry. When they stuff enough IT governance shit into your brain you start to talk funny.

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