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Uber Banned In Delhi After Taxi Driver Accused of Rape
RockDoctor writes BBC News is reporting that a 26-year old Indian woman is alleging rape against a driver for the embattled Uber transport-managing company. In a post on the Uber blog, one "Saad Ahmed" implicitly admits that the driver was a Uber driver, that the lift was arranged through Uber's service, and that the full range of Uber's safety mechanisms had been applied to his employment, and by implication, that Uber accepts some culpability for putting this (alleged) rapist into contact with his (alleged) victim. "Our initial investigations have revealed shortcomings of the private cab company which didn't have GPS installed in its cabs and the staff wasn't verified," Delhi Special Commissioner Deepak Mishra said. But Uber says safety was paramount, and added it had GPS traces of all journeys. "We work with licensed driver-partners to provide a safe transportation option, with layers of safeguards such as driver and vehicle information, and ETA-sharing [estimated time of arrival] to ensure there is accountability and traceability of all trips that occur on the Uber platform," its statement added.
Sadly, it appears that rapes are so common in India that they should also ban public parks, buses, trains and Starbucks.
That about sums it up..
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That's sorted now, no more rapes in India.
Uber. It means super in German. That's misleading. It should be called Rides with Strangers Without Background Checks.
SuddenlyI figure that indian woman is very tough~~~~
Let's take Uber at its word and accept that the "full range of safety mechanisms" was truly applied, and those mechanisms comport with contemporary acceptable standards for background checks in India.
If that is the case, and the guy came up clean but yet still went on to do X, how is Uber any more culpable than a taxi company hiring a cabbie with no record, who subsequently goes out and does X, or a tour company hiring a bus driver with a spotless background, who nonetheless does X?
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The lack of transparency with Uber leaves one wondering if that in itself will eventually bring a end to the company. The ideal is great, but the sad part is that it leaves to many opportunity for bad people to take advantage of it. We see a rapid expansion of Uber and with that has come distrust, privacy concerns and now potentially hiring people who may have criminal pasts and criminal motives to become a driver for Uber. When you loose trust with the public in a big way. Your not going to survive in business very long. I have yet, to see the upper management at Uber really address any of the concerns. I think, they are too busy counting their profits to care.
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It should be law that the management of companies who place the lives of others in danger without performing due diligence to screen their subcontractors and employees will be subject to the same punishment as those that they subcontract to to provide services for the crimes their subcontractors or employees commit.
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Quick - let's allow hundreds of millions of them to move into white countries, that'll make them better places to live, won't it!
If Uber is not a taxi service, what is it? If it's a "ride service", shouldn't there be regulations, statutes, city codes addressing its operation? What liability does Uber accept for the behavior and actions of its drivers?
What ever happened to people using common sense to avoid becoming victims of crimes? Sure, it's not right for you to get raped in any circumstance, but use some common sense and don't put yourself in obvious danger, like riding alone in a cab at night in a country where rapes are common.
Also, banning a voluntary service because one or more people had a crime happen while using it? That's ridiculous. No one made you use Uber or any other cab service. Find a different way home, or don't go out if you are that worried. If people want to take the risk, let them. If others don't, let them choose to do something else. This idea of a "nanny state" protecting us from our own choices is retarded
Police needs to be disbanded when policeman makes a violent crime.
Army needs to be disbanded when army people kill a person.
The medical profession and regulations need to be disbanded, when malpractice occurs, for it takes only one mistake to cause harm.
All the regulations need to be disbanded, because they do not make the crime disappear.
Most of the males need to be aborted, using the same logic, for all the males are statistically potential rapists. The remaining pool for the purposes of procreation should be kept all locked in the "Male camps" and used during scheduled conjugal visits.
In a most populous country with more than 1 billion people, statistically there will be all kind of mishaps, accidents and crimes. It is unavoidable.
If truly rapes and strangers are an issue, then most of the progress would be achieved in eliminating this type of crime closing all the night clubs and bar.
Also the night life is when a lot of crime happens, it is safer if all the people would be under curfew during the dark hours.
With a valuation of $40,000,000,000.00 "embattled" is hardly the adjective I'd use.
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I mentioned that once before, and was roundly shouted down... By people who noted that Uber in fact DOES do background checks.
They may have had a failing in this case, but it's the exception rather than a rule and a problem with the division in India, not generally.
If you don't like being shouted down perhaps do some research before speaking?
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
From what I can tell, they seem to accept none of that
That's pretty much bullshit since Uber pays for extra insurance for drivers, and screens them which means obviously Uber has some liability they are guarding against.
Where I live, to be a cab you need a commercial drivers license
Which is just a note that you have given the state extra money, of no actual value to anyone. Uber drivers have that though, just not UberX.
proper insurance
Which Uber provides.
regular vehicle inspections
UberX also makes sure you have a vehicle in good shape before you can drive
a tax license
Well THAT should stop the raping!
and are legally required to have a camera installed in your car.
Uber drivers are all tracked by GPS continuously and if they are smart have a camera in the car or voice recording app also. It's not magic.
Basically you've done no research and don't know what the hell you are talking about, but don't let that stop you from complaining.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
It is very sad to see how everyone is continuously referring us as the Indians and stereotyping.
seems to think the whole world is made of west coast techno-hipsters with Foresters and just a hint of a schedule to stick to.
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Since Uber allows ratings of passengers...was she willing, or did he give her points off for resisting?
A woman was raped by a taxi driver here in Cincinnati. She was then kicked out of the cab and left laying in the street. The cops at first tried to arrest the woman, and then harassed and made fun of her while at the station. Guess we should just ban all taxis and public transport eh?
I have a friend who got back from a trip to India. She was traveling in a group with some other women and one man. The taxi drivers would grab the women by the arms and force them in the car like luggage, and then talk with the man about where he would like to go (with his women). My friend had bruises on her arms from repeated grabs.
Uber likes to try to frame this discussion of how it's trying to compete with the big bad taxi lobby. What they are actually doing is running unlicensed cabs operated by people who aren't very accountable, and if something goes wrong they'll claim "well, we just dispatch, we're not a cab company".
Two separate arguments so keep them separate. First, Uber is fighting lobbyists from large firms that make a fortune paying drivers poor wages and historically not giving a rats ass about consumers. This _IS_ a real issue, and it should take about 2 minutes of investigation to determine that the cab monopolies have been harmful to both consumers and employees. It has only benefited large corporations who can afford the "fee" to Government offices, who have been the other beneficiary.
They are not a cab company, and have never every claimed to be a cab company. They are a ride sharing service which does not do anything like a cab company.
That one out of the way, your second point has some merit. People are not telling the truth on Uber applications, which is leading to some bad things. Worse than you get with a taxi or bus service? Hell no, in fact TFA reports an incident that occurred on the anniversary of a woman getting gang raped on a public bus. The "Uber" issue is played up however, because Uber is not paying off enough politicians. Proof that it's played up is in the same article, because if not for the Uber incident nobody in the US would know about the public bus gang rape incident. Of course most people won't read past the first paragraph either, so there is little harm in them printing the information in the last goddamn line of the story (and watch for this to be redacted in later versions, BBC has a history of doing just this.
On point, the second issue is a concern but it has to be dealt with rationally. Uber has many more benefits than down sides. Introduce legislation and petition Uber to do more checking for background/insurance/ anything else you think they lack.
Consider this: The bus driver that was driving when the woman was gang raped faced no charges, this driver is going to jail. Who is more accountable?
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
This is a false flag operation. The government wants to shut down Uber because it represents freedom and will do anything to accompish it.
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by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
Rape is rampant in India. WTF? It's possible that the media is distorting how prevalent it is due to a few of the high profile gang rape cases that have been reported, but still. You don't hear about gang rape of women here in the U.S.. Get your shit together, India.
True. This is a crime case. Don't bring culture into it.
Here is a German living in India for a long term about "rapes are so common in India"
http://mariawirthblog.wordpress.com/2014/01/27/why-this-focus-on-rapes-in-india-by-world-media/
Quote:
The campaign to paint India blacker than it is sadly has worked. It is now a ÃfactÃ(TM) for most foreigners (and for the convinced Indians) that Indian women have to live terrible lives, more terrible than anywhere else. No disagreeing possible. Everyone will shout you down with plenty of horrific examples. Yes, there are plenty of horrific examples and one needs to find out the reasons and find remedies. But individual criminals do not define a country, even less, if other countries have more of them. So why is India beaten with Ãoeanother gang rapeà again and again? Is the purpose to spoil the image of India? And if so, why?
Wish the criminal's occupation was a teacher. Seeing how one teacher is dangerous and so all must be dangerous too, I'm sure Delhi government would have been cautious and logical enough to accept that schools should be banned.
Rape is traditional in India. Uber has nothing to do with that. Just like guns in USA..