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Peru Indignant After Greenpeace Damages Ancient Nazca Site

HughPickens.com writes The NYT reports that Peruvian authorities say Greenpeace activists have damaged the fragile, and restricted, landscape near the Nazca lines, ancient man-made designs etched in the Peruvian desert when they placed a large sign that promoted renewable energy near a set of lines that form the shape of a giant hummingbird. The sign was meant to draw the attention of world leaders, reporters and others who were in Lima, the Peruvian capital, for a United Nations summit meeting aimed at reaching an agreement to address climate change. Greenpeace issued a statement apologizing for the stunt at the archaeological site and its international executive director, Kumi Naidoo, flew to Lima to apologize for scarring one of Peru's most treasured national symbols. "We are not ready to accept apologies from anybody," says Luis Jaime Castillo, the vice minister for cultural heritage. "Let them apologize after they repair the damage." "But repair may not be possible. The desert around the lines is made up of white sand capped by a darker rocky layer. By walking through the desert the interlopers disturbed the upper layer, exposing the lighter sand below. Visits to the site are closely supervised — ministers and presidents have to seek special permission and special footwear to tread on the fragile ground where the 1,500 year old lines are cut. "A bad step, a heavy step, what it does is that it marks the ground forever," says Castillo. "There is no known technique to restore it the way it was." Castillo says that the group walked in single file through the desert, meaning that they made a deep track in the ground then they spread out in the area where they laid the letters, making many more marks over a wide area. "The hummingbird was in a pristine area, untouched,". Castillo added. "Perhaps it was the best figure."

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  1. Re:oh delicious irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Because it's darker sand on top of lighter sand.

    Heavy footprints change the colour of the ground.

    Rake would do more damage.

  2. Re:oh delicious irony by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 4, Informative

    Go to a sand trap in a golf course. Sprinkle a thin layer of black dust over the sand, but thick enough so that you cannot see the sand beneath. Walk through that area of black dust over whitish sand.

    Now use a rake to remove the footprints.

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  3. Re:oh delicious irony by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well, "the Inca's" don't exist anymore. They were a group that ruled the area in the past.

    As to why Peru hasn't "totally blocked off the area", it would take thousands of troops to surround the area, just to prevent the one group of morons in several decades who thought trampling world historic sites for political messages sounded like a good idea.

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  4. Re:What the hell is wrong with Millennials?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Wait, you're really saying that modern San Francisco today is "livable"?

    Yeah, that's maybe true if you're in the 1.6% of people making more than $250,000 a year.

    If you're making anything less than $250,000 a year, like most people (including those working in the software industry), living in San Francisco is going to be absolute hell.

    You're looking at paying at least $2000 in rent each month. When I say "at least", I'm talking about a single room in a filthy boarding house, assuming you aren't in an illegal "rental suite" somebody built in their garden shed.

    Realistically, if you want a small one-bedroom apartment that isn't in somebody's shed and that isn't infested with vermin, you're looking at about $8000 to $9000 a month.

    Yeah, you'll be paying over $100,000 per year merely for minimal housing costs. If you want to raise a family, and need more than a single bedroom, you'll be looking at upwards of $200,000 per year. Oh, and don't even think about buying even a run down, broken, tiny house unless you've got $5,000,000 or more to spend.

    Food is as expensive as hell there. Clothing is as expensive as hell there. And if you want to fit in with the society there, you're going to need to attend all sorts of "social functions" at expensive and trendy restaurants. That will quickly use up most of the remaining $150,000 you make each year.

    Don't forget that to make that money, you'll be stuck in terrible traffic for most of the very early morning, and even late into the night. When everybody has to work 18 hour days just to survive, sometimes at three or more jobs, "rush hour" lasts most of the day.

    Modern San Francisco is "livable"? Hardly!

  5. Re:What the hell is wrong with Millennials?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I hate to break the news to you, but these so-called "Millenials" you keep ranting about do not exist. And if they existed, theyd' all be 14 years old.
    More generally speaking, not all people from one generation are the same, and the elderly have been complaining about youngsters even before Seneca wrote about it.

    Take it easy, my friend, and perhaps get a bit more sleep. (Lack of sleep is one of the primary causes of grumpiness.)

    The start of the bracket for the generational definition for Millennials is based on their high-school graduation / college freshman admission year, and thus refers to those born in 1982. Those 14-year-old kids you refer to are the young end of the bracket.

  6. Re: What the hell is wrong with Millennials?! by khayman80 · · Score: 5, Informative

    By the way: the "Greatest Generation" (which nobody but themselves call them) were the first generation in the history of the U.S. to leave their children with less than they themselves had. "Greatest Generation" my ass. [Lonny Eachus, 2012-11-01]

    ... I have problems with the whole "Greatest Generation" thing. ... their self-designation of "Greatest Generation" is undeserved. ... as a generation - aside from war effects - they were the greediest and least caring for future generations in history. ... They are the first generation in history to leave for their children an economy far worse than they enjoyed. ... I could go on, but I won't. My issue is with the name "Greatest Generation". They weren't. They aren't. By a very long way. [Lonny Eachus, 2012-11-16]

    What they achieved was naming themselves "The Greatest Generation". Nobody else did it; they decided to call themselves that. And of course, that doesn't make it so. [Jane Q. Public, 2014-12-13]

    As usual, Jane/Lonny Eachus is wrong: "'The Greatest Generation' is a term coined by journalist Tom Brokaw to describe the generation who grew up in the United States during the deprivation of the Great Depression, and then went on to fight in World War II, as well as those whose productivity within the war's home front made a decisive material contribution to the war effort, for which the generation is also termed the G.I. Generation."

    Members of the "Greatest Generation" were born from 1901 to 1924, but Tom Brokaw was born in 1940.

    So Jane/Lonny Eachus is wrong. Again. The "Greatest Generation" isn't a self-designation.

  7. Re: What the hell is wrong with Millennials?! by cold+fjord · · Score: 3, Informative

    Globally speaking, a good portion of "The Greatest Generation" were fucking Nazis.

    There is no "globally speaking" about the greatest generation. The term refers to Americans of that era that assumed the burdens that they did. And in ordinary discussion I don't think that refernces to a particular generation in a culture are inclusive of all people across the globe that fall into a similar age bracket otherwise most of those discussion which are framed in terms of particular cultures and values would be meaningless. You've made a poor argument.

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  8. Photos by jklovanc · · Score: 4, Informative

    From this post here are some interesting images.
    The Damage. Those are new lines created by Greepeace. Notice the bright line to the left. That is where they drove their cars off the existing roads. I guess walking a bit is more important than preserving an international heritage site.
    The Foorwear This is what they should have been wearing to visit the lines. It spread out the weight and causes less damage. They did the worst thing possible by walking in a line in regular shoes.