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Calculus Textbook Author James Stewart Has Died

Onnimikki writes James Stewart, author of the calculus textbooks many of us either loved or loved to hate, has died. In case you ever wondered what the textbook was funding, this story has the answer: a $32 million dollar home over-looking a ravine in Toronto, Canada.

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  1. Math author dies rich... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... Figures.

    1. Re: Math author dies rich... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I have a hard time feeling anything for someone who contributed thousands to college students financial aid bills while build a house worth that much.

    2. Re: Math author dies rich... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's the dirty little secret in all this.

      Success in textbook publishing has more to do with getting institutions to force a particular textbook on their students then it does writing books that actually help those students.

      There are more than a few rich academics that have figured out how to jump on that gravy train that is modern education.

      We were warned years ago about the military-industrial complex. There's also the political-academic complex to worry about, too.

    3. Re: Math author dies rich... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Pro tip: financial success has everything to do with persuading people to give you money.

    4. Re: Math author dies rich... by fiziko · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The difference between his book and SO MANY of the other textbooks I have is that his is actually good. Why do you think everyone recognizes the name "James Stewart" as the calculus author? Is there a definite textbook author for any other courses? I've got two physics degrees and an education degree, and Stewart's calculus and David Griffiths' Electricity and Magnetism texts were the only two that seemed to be so pervasive.

      The main complaints need to be directed at publishers, not authors. Stewart started with a slow update cycle, but then publishers started putting books out of print and demanding new editions every two years to eliminate the used textbook sales market and try to force every student onto new editions. (If a book is out of print, the prof needs to order a new edition, because there is no other way to ensure there are enough available for all students.) Stewart is one of the authors who chose to meet the accelerated publication schedule instead of bowing out. Why begrudge him for filling a void that the publisher would fill with or without his help? I once tried ordering a textbook through a local brick and mortar store. This was 1998: the book was $110 at the campus bookstore, and the local Chapters (now owned by Indigo) expected to bring it in for a cost of $95 to me as a special order. They called before finalizing the order because the publisher checked their address and noticed they were not on campus, and changed to cost to them. Using the same proportionate markup, they would now have to charge me $180 for the same book. Tell me there's not gouging of customers going on there... (I spent $110 on campus instead, and ordered the rest of my textbooks online in later years to compete without the address flag. Saved an average of 15%, even after shipping fees.)

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    5. Re:Math author dies rich... by dsgrntlxmply · · Score: 2

      Stewart might have been a singular phenomenon. How many textbook authors even do well, much less become wealthy?

      In some sense his book evolved not to be his book, but a brand name and industry. It exists in numerous editions, some functionally variant ("Early Transcendentals"), and some specifically formulated for one institution, in addition to the arisen phenomenon of annual editions that seem cynically designed to kill the used textbook market.

      Price and physical weight (clay coated paper) aside, as a returned adult undergrad I found Stewart to be a good calculus text. So, though was Hughes-Hallett, and she probably does not live in an exceptional custom house/concert hall. And there are ways in which 1970s editions of e.g. Thomas present and illuminate the subject, that were greatly helpful.

    6. Re:Math author dies rich... by DexterIsADog · · Score: 1

      ...So, though was Hughes-Hallett, and she probably does not live in an exceptional custom house/concert hall.

      Did you look at the slideshow? That house looks like a sterile, uncomfortable place to live. I see people who live in places like that and I wonder if their emotional landscape is as barren as their domiciles.

    7. Re: Math author dies rich... by Kasar · · Score: 3, Informative

      You wouldn't want people studying Calculus in 2014 from a 1998 book. It would obviously be outdated with all that has changed.
      I mean there was the... umm.. and the...

      Really though, the last ethics class I took required an e-book with a 3 use license and six month expiration that cost $130. So, after six months, there is no access to the material at all, like a returned library book without even the value of a paper-bound book that could be burned for warmth.

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    8. Re:Math author dies rich... by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      Sure beats the overstuffed doilies everywhere style that overly emotional people prefer.

    9. Re: Math author dies rich... by retchdog · · Score: 1

      it's garbage, trying to fill too many roles and full of bloat, though some of this is the publisher's fault.

      either dumb it down some more, or use a better book like Apostol. either way, that goddam tome is an anachronistic brick. i fucking hated calculus in high school, yet wound up with a Ph.D. in applied math once i got real teachers and real books.

      fuck hell, when did Apostol go up to $220? i thought it was ridiculously expensive when i bought it years ago...

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    10. Re: Math author dies rich... by turkeyfish · · Score: 3, Informative

      Perhaps you can feel better knowing that he has given the entire proceedings from the sale of the house to a variety of charities.

      His textbook will long remain one of the best, for its completeness and clarity of exposition. As for the price of my copy, it was worth every penny.

    11. Re: Math author dies rich... by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 1

      either dumb it down some more, or use a better book like Apostol. either way, that goddam tome is an anachronistic brick.

      I agree. "Tommy I" and "Tommy II" are decent actual intros to calc. (To the non-math geeks out there, these are common names for Apostol's books.)

      For those not ready to take the plunge into real calc with Apostol, better to do a simpler intro version first... Stewart's book is like the MS Word of calc textbooks -- bloated and trying to serve everybody. Most people would be better off with either something like Wordpad/text editor or using a real typesetting/layout app for serious formatting.

    12. Re: Math author dies rich... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Halliday and Resnick's Physics book is from 1960 and is still widely used. In fact those two names are so more known than James Stewart's name.

    13. Re: Math author dies rich... by BigFootApe · · Score: 1

      Mary Boas' Mathematical Physics book is pretty good, and the second edition was in publication forever.

    14. Re:Math author dies rich... by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      Yup, sorry, was a bit lazy there.

    15. Re:Math author dies rich... by stephenpeters · · Score: 1

      As someone who did not study math in higher education but now wants to learn more it is quite difficult to find out which math text books have the best content. Would someone please suggest some books and authors of great texts I can then search for?

      I would ideally like to build up a bookshelf of great maths texts to go alongside the computing books I already have.

    16. Re: Math author dies rich... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Persuading people to give you money is one thing. Persuading people to coerce other people into giving you money is quite a different thing.

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    17. Re: Math author dies rich... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I mostly agree, though he gets some grudging admiration not letting the publishers bag it all.

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    18. Re: Math author dies rich... by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      Really though, the last ethics class I took required an e-book with a 3 use license and six month expiration that cost $130. So, after six months, there is no access to the material at all, like a returned library book without even the value of a paper-bound book that could be burned for warmth.

      Well, ironically that probably taught you a lot about ethics.

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    19. Re:Math author dies rich... by nbauman · · Score: 5, Interesting

      As someone who did not study math in higher education but now wants to learn more it is quite difficult to find out which math text books have the best content. Would someone please suggest some books and authors of great texts I can then search for?

      I would ideally like to build up a bookshelf of great maths texts to go alongside the computing books I already have.

      You know, I used to have a good answer, but because of New York City Mayor Bloomberg, I can't give you an answer any more. He destroyed the library with the greatest collection of introductory math books that I've ever seen.

      We used to have a library in Manhattan, on a prime piece of real estate opposite the Museum of Modern Art, called the Donnell. It had collections of books for young adults, which in library-speak means high school students and above. They had librarians who understood the subjects, and worked with high school teachers to develop excellent collections of books with good content that would grab you when you took them off the shelf and started to read.

      They had a collection of science books and a collection of math books in two big bookcases. Those bookcases contained every great math book I read or wanted to read in high school. Sometimes I'd find a book in the library, and buy a copy in the bookstore.

      The Donnell was a beautiful library, in the 1930s style of Rockefeller Center, a fitting match for the Museum of Modern Art, where you could sit and read by huge picture windows. It was a hangout for teenagers from around the city, who used to come there to do their homework and their research. They also had an auditorium where they held poetry readings. It was a New York institution.

      After 80 years, the Donnell could have used some repairs and upgrading to its heating and air conditioning system and so forth. Instead of paying for the repairs, Bloomberg decided to tear down the library. He had connections to a real estate company that came up with a plan to build a hotel on the site. They would have a much smaller library down in the basement. But it wouldn't have the same young adult science, math and other collections (which were scattered among other libraries around the City). The real estate company would make a lot of money, the City would get some, and use the money to "improve" the library system and buy more computers. It was controversial, people fought it, but Bloomberg was a billionaire and he won. They fired all the expert librarians, and tore down the Donnell.

      Then the real estate market collapsed, so Bloomberg's real estate friends couldn't deliver what they promised.

      I've talked to many science librarians in the public library. There is no longer any place in the City where you can find a collection of science and math books like that. They couldn't even give me a bibliography of books like that. It's gone. In fact, they fired most of the expert librarians, and replaced them with computer specialists. They don't really know the subject. You ask them a question and they look in a database.

      The best thing I could recommend now is to find a math teacher. It used to be that you could go to a college campus, walk over to the math department, and find somebody who would be happy to give you advice. Now, with all the security, you might not be able to get in the door any more without an ID card. Or you might be able to find a good librarian. If you find a good bibliography, let me know.

      (The classics that I remember, BTW, were The World of Mathematics, which was a historical collection of sources, Courant's Introduction to Mathematics, and Polya's How to Find It. There were so many more. If it wasn't for the Copyright Act, you could get them all free on line today.)

    20. Re:Math author dies rich... by DexterIsADog · · Score: 1

      Yes, but those aren't the only choices. There's also a style that's comfortable, uncluttered, with warm colors, that I prefer. Oh, and with an indoor exercise pool. :-)

    21. Re: Math author dies rich... by jd2112 · · Score: 1

      Really though, the last ethics class I took required an e-book with a 3 use license and six month expiration that cost $130. So, after six months, there is no access to the material at all, like a returned library book without even the value of a paper-bound book that could be burned for warmth.

      Well, ironically that probably taught you a lot about ethics.

      Most of it was copied verbatim from the Enron Corporate Ethics Handbook.

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    22. Re:Math author dies rich... by dario_moreno · · Score: 1

      Yes, I bought some of the Landau and Lifchitz books at the time for $3, they are now worth $150 at Springer...Younger self should have believed in himself more. Funny to see that now we can download 5000 C64 games for free, not to mention MAME roms, a good PC is $500, (at the time, $30 per game, a decent PC was $3000 of the time) but those books are 50 times more expensive...and the content still worth it.

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    23. Re:Math author dies rich... by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      "It's too bad the Soviet Union didn't survive" is an odd phrase indeed. Is this the first time it has ever been used?

      The Soviet Union couldn't have gotten on the internet, there would have been too much free information floating around. To heck with the internet - the Soviets couldn't even sell Xerox machines to the general public, they would have been used by the people for anti-Communist activities. But don't trust me, listen to one of the Soviet leaders (and, by extension, one of the smartest people in their entire empire).

      In a remarkable tete-a-tete with a US journalist and former arms control official, Marshal Nikolai Ogarkov, First Deputy Defense Minister and Chief of the General Staff, interpreted the real meaning of SDI:
      "We cannot equal the quality of U.S. arms for a generation or two. Modern military power is based on technology, and technology is based on computers. In the US, small children play with computers... Here, we don't even have computers in every office of the Defense Ministry. And for reasons you know well, we cannot make computers widely available in our society. We will never be able to catch up with you in modern arms until we have an economic revolution. And the question is whether we can have an economic revolution without a political revolution."

      What were those reasons that everyone knew well? Ever heard of samizdat? No, eh?

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    24. Re:Math author dies rich... by nbauman · · Score: 1

      It's too bad the Soviet Union didn't survive under Gorbachev. I think you would prefer Gorbachev to Putin, and probably to Yeltsin.

      When Gorbachev came in, Ogarkov was out. Gorbachev didn't have any problems making computers, or free speech, widely available.

      I've never been able to understand why the Soviet people (with the encouragement of the West) threw Gorbachev out. It's as if for 70 years the Soviet leaders weren't willing to take a risk of more freedom, because they were afraid the West would stab them in the back. Finally, along came Gorbachev, who was willing to take a risk for peace and freedom. Sure enough, the Westeners stabbed him in the back.

      I read samisdat. They were circulating in the U.S. for a while after the thaw. One of the problems was that they were too long and didn't get to the point. That's why, when Solzhenitsyn finally came to free market America, he complained that, under capitalism, nobody wanted to read his books. When they finally had freedom of speech, nobody was interested in them.

       

    25. Re: Math author dies rich... by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 2

      The difference between his book and SO MANY of the other textbooks I have is that his is actually good. Why do you think everyone recognizes the name "James Stewart" as the calculus author?

      I recognise Silvanus Thompson as the calculus author. He died a quarter of a century before this Stewart newbie was born. And since his calculus text was written in 1910, the cost to students is $0.

    26. Re: Math author dies rich... by asdfj · · Score: 1

      The vast majority of people do not hear "james stewart" and think "that guy who wrote the calculus textbooks..." http://lmgtfy.com/?q=jimmy+ste...

  2. What are the implications for the textbook market? by guacamole · · Score: 4, Funny

    Having passed away, since Mr Stewart can no longer update the textbook every year or so, does this mean that this Calculus text will finally stabilize, stop being updated, and the prices would drop?

  3. $32 million of greed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Somehow I greatly resent people who profit massively from kids' math textbooks. He was such a person.
    Here's a picture of some Indian kids using a bridge as a school.
    Wonder how much toll Stewart would feel they should pay him for the privilege of learning stuff invented by Newton.
    http://i.guim.co.uk/static/w-620/h--/q-95/sys-images/Environment/Pix/pictures/2013/9/18/1379522585111/Indian-children-attend-a--008.jpg

    1. Re:$32 million of greed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      invented by Newton.

      You forgot Leibnitz, you innumerate clod.

    2. Re:$32 million of greed. by theskipper · · Score: 3, Insightful

      RTFA. It clearly says that it wasn't all from textbook sales but also from "astute investments". Sounds like the guy worked hard and had his shit together financially.

    3. Re:$32 million of greed. by Narcocide · · Score: 1

      Yea, astute investments in what? Textbook company stocks?

    4. Re:$32 million of greed. by eclectro · · Score: 2

      Sounds like the guy worked hard and had his shit together financially.

      Or taking advantage of a forced captive audience by charging crushing $250+ USD prices for a math textbook. Hard to swallow when Dover can manage to charge $20 for a text.

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    5. Re:$32 million of greed. by hey! · · Score: 1

      I have a friend who was a medical entomologist and journal editor before he retired. I ran into him while I was browsing a book table at a conference, and mentioned that I'd like to buy one of the medical entomology textbooks but the $250 price tag was a bit steep.

      "Just wait," he said. "I'm about to change that. I'm writing a new textbook that will be a lot cheaper. I want students and public health departments to be able to afford a solid medical entomology reference."

      When his book came out the publisher set the priced at $500. It was twice as expensive any of its competitors. Now something like this is never going to sell like a basic calculus book, but it has a considerably larger market than you'd think. His idea was that it would find its way into the syllabus in medical, veterinary and public health schools; and that hospitals and public health agencies would buy copies for their libraries. But his strategy to make that happen by making the book affordable and sell in (relatively) high numbers; the publisher had other plans.

      So don't blame authors for high textbook prices. It's publishers who set the price.

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    6. Re:$32 million of greed. by theskipper · · Score: 2

      Most likely not. Based on a cursory look at Scholastic, McGraw-Hill and John Wiley, only the latter has returned close to a 10-bagger in the last 20 years. Of course the obvious stock in the book space is Amazon at 100x+.

      But the point is that there have been tons of investment opportunities that yielded extraordinary returns over that period. Being "astute" means you get rewarded for great due diligence, mixed in with good timing and some luck. It's the same for everyone who takes risk by investing, he shouldn't be pilloried for success imo.

    7. Re:$32 million of greed. by amiga3D · · Score: 3, Insightful

      One of the few things worse than greed is jealousy and there's lots of that around here. The man was smart and successful. The fact that he made a lot of money writing textbooks is what it is. The market is bogus and we all know it but writers gotta write. I can't believe the textbook scam is still going on full steam. I remember back in the 70's paying over 50 dollars for a biology textbook that I never used. All the tests were from the lectures in that class. I did get half the money back when I sold it after the class ended to a guy taking it the next quarter. I'm sure he didn't use it either because he had the same professor.

    8. Re:$32 million of greed. by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

      Pity that people can't self-publish these days...

      Oh, wait!

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    9. Re:$32 million of greed. by retchdog · · Score: 1

      you're so sure that people here are merely jealous rather than spiteful at someone profiting off a system they correctly see as bullshit.

      there is, actually, a difference between "hey, i want that!" and "hey, i could have had that if i were an amoral asshole. fuck this world."

      of course they can both be stupid and counterproductive (particularly, the latter is just wrong), but it's a bit silly to use the same label for both.

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    10. Re:$32 million of greed. by C+R+Johnson · · Score: 1

      It's not jealousy. It's envy.

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    11. Re:$32 million of greed. by quantaman · · Score: 1

      Somehow I greatly resent people who profit massively from kids' math textbooks. He was such a person.

      How would you prefer people to get rich?

      I don't agree with the philosophy that people aren't supposed to get rich helping people, if anything those are exactly the sort of people we want to get rich.

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    12. Re:$32 million of greed. by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      RTFA. It clearly says that it wasn't all from textbook sales but also from "astute investments". Sounds like the guy worked hard and had his shit together financially.

      Use some common sense - unless you have Warren Buffet levels of financial acuity or a great deal of luck, you don't accumulate that much cash via investments unless you start with a pile of cash nearly that size.

    13. Re:$32 million of greed. by Firethorn · · Score: 1

      Can you self-publish and get any respect from college book departments? Professors might be fairly easy, but getting the okay from your department to use a non-certified publisher/reviewed book might be difficult. Can you sell enough in order to justify printing sufficient quantities such that printing costs alone don't swamp most of the price difference?

      It's not easy. Especially if he was under contract with the publisher for it and they pulled some shenanigans in order to raise the price.

      That being said, I'd love to pull in some charity minded professionals to write and deliberately open source sets of textbooks.

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    14. Re:$32 million of greed. by theskipper · · Score: 1

      Put it this way, before 1980, sure. But over the last 30 or so years it's been a different ballgame.

      There were 100 baggers available by selling at the top of the internet bubble. Or buying MDVN 10 years ago or tucking away some AAPL in the dark days. And these opportunities aren't dying out; for example, the same scenario is playing again right now in immuno/gene therapy.

      Expand that out to real estate, Forex, domain names or just about any other investment/speculative vehicle over that time and you're talking a massive # of individual opportunities that yielded multi-fold returns. Returns that could be parlayed into further opportunities.

      So imo it's not unreasonable for someone to turn $1m into $30m over a 20 year span even with average discipline, intelligence and luck.

    15. Re:$32 million of greed. by gnupun · · Score: 1

      There is nothing unethical about writing a textbook for children and earning a living that way, and people who can write good textbooks are few and far between

      Since there's no lack of math authors (good competition), isn't it unethical these textbooks cost so much?

      Besides, virtually all of the profits from these books go to the publisher, not the author.

      Are the high prices due to collusion between the school and publisher?

    16. Re:$32 million of greed. by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      I just realize that 90 percent of the people bitching would gladly trade places with the self-serving elite.

    17. Re:$32 million of greed. by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      I know how people are and yes I'm pretty sure most are just jealous. I know how many people I've seen that while pious and self-righteous while in positions where they had little power or impact later attained promotions and became tyrants and micro-managing assholes. Most bitching is nothing more than envy. Maybe you are pure of heart but if so you are in the minority.

    18. Re:$32 million of greed. by hey! · · Score: 1

      That was a dozen years ago. He can't self-publish *now* because he has a contract with Springer.

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  4. Re:What are the implications for the textbook mark by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 2

    +5 funny.

  5. Re:What are the implications for the textbook mark by mysidia · · Score: 1

    Nope. Just because Mr Stewart isn't around doesn't mean new updates/reshuffles won't be coming out every year.

    First of all.... he's probably already written the plan for next 2 to 3 year's worth of versions of the books

    Second of all.... his editor can continue to make minor updates to the book ad infintium.

  6. Was it... by persicom · · Score: 2

    a wonderful life?

    1. Re:Was it... by quenda · · Score: 1

      Strange, isn't it? Each man's life touches so many other lives. When he isn't around he leaves an awful hole, doesn't he?

  7. Re:What are the implications for the textbook mark by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 1

    Having passed away, since Mr Stewart can no longer update the textbook every year or so, does this mean that this Calculus text will finally stabilize, stop being updated, and the prices would drop?

    Uh, no. When this happens, publishers just find another "co-author" to add on to the title page. If it's like most textbooks, the new author will make a few minor tweaks here and there, rewrite only one chapter in any significant way (or simply add a new chapter somewhere), and then move back to the standard "renumber the pages and exercises" for subsequent "revised" editions.

  8. Re:What are the implications for the textbook mark by Irate+Engineer · · Score: 5, Informative

    rewrite only one chapter in any significant way (or simply add a new chapter somewhere), and then move back to the standard "renumber the pages and exercises" for subsequent "revised" editions.

    Rewrite? As in actually revise the text? No way.

    I teach out of a thermodynamics text that gets churned every year or so. Never mind that engineering thermodynamics hasn't changed a whit in about a century, but the homework problems get reshuffled. Once in a while they'll actually try to rewrite some of the homework problems, mangling them badly. I redo all of the problems to ensure that the solutions are actually correct (many are not). I'm actually writing many of my own homework problems now and allowing students to purchase any edition of the text that they can find (as the 3rd edition is effectively as good as the 8th edition as far as being a reference to solve problems).

    It's pissing me and the students off because they really do need to have a text. However, this churning bullshit and jacking up of prices is actually causing some of the students to try to wing it through the class without a text, which is not going to end well They do need a basic reference for exams and practical problems. But they could probably do fine with a text from 1920 if they were comfortable using it.

    Textbook publishers are right up there with advertisers and telephone sanitizers. Shoot the bastards into space and be done with them.

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  9. Wow ... by gstoddart · · Score: 2

    I learned from that text, and only just unpacked it onto a shelf the other day.

    When I eventually grokked (some) calculus it was via his book.

    Peace out, James Stewart.

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    1. Re:Wow ... by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      He was an integral part of Calculus education.

    2. Re:Wow ... by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Well played. That summed things up nicely. ;-)

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  10. Re:What are the implications for the textbook mark by Livius · · Score: 2

    Well, first-year calculus hadn't changed in 250 years, and second-year calculus hadn't changed in 100 years, so I'm guessing the updating isn't going to stop.

  11. What about that stupid book is worth US$244? by Dr.+Spork · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I really fucking hate this about academia. It's absolutely shameless to charge college students $244 for a single dumb textbook. It's not even that good. It's just that when a department chooses to standardize on a textbook, the move has inertia and is basically impossible to reverse. Then, the publisher can charge something absurd, and everybody pays it, because it is a required text. It's so dirty, because it's profiteering from people who are often barely making ends meet, and typically buying the book with debt.

    What really bothers me is that nobody seems willing to do anything about it. If a big, publicly funded university system set aside some money to create and regularly update their core STEM curriculum textbooks - let's start with Calculus, Physics, GenChem, GenBio - it would certainly cost less than the almost $1000 per student that the textbook purchases cost. These universities have Nobel Prize winners among their faculty, surely they have the in-house resources to create excellent textbooks and distribute them on some sort of open license like CC. Arranging sabbaticals for the authors might cost at most a million dollars, or roughly 4000 Stewart Calculus books. That might be about the number of Calc 1, Phys 1, GenChem and GenBio books that are sold on a single campus in a single year.

    But this move would help everybody, not just within the entire UC system that funded the effort, but across the globe. And the costs of updating and embellishing future editions would be far less. I'm so mad that a large university system doesn't just make this happen. And yes, raise fucking tuition by $200 to pay for it, if you absolutely have to. In exchange for textbooks you can have for free (or for printing cost if you don't like digital), everybody will recognize that's a great deal. The courses can explicitly invite students to devise problems for future editions, or to suggest changes and clarifications. And it will bring prestige to the colleges and to the authors, which is worth something too.

    1. Re:What about that stupid book is worth US$244? by rainmaestro · · Score: 1

      Well, sort of. If the cost was included in tuition, then it would be presumably covered by scholarships (example: when I went through uni, there was a state-sponsored scholarship program that covered full tuition for four years, but didn't cover books).

    2. Re:What about that stupid book is worth US$244? by steelfood · · Score: 1

      The problem is money. Even if a university decides to create and publish its own textbook, and then distribute it to the rest of academia, it will eventually fall into the trap of seeing the textbook arm of the school as a money generator and do exactly what the publishers are doing.

      Better solution is to reduce copyright terms. That way, Stewart 1st ed would be in the public domain and anyone would be free to reprint it. It would be like drug manufacturers and generics.

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    3. Re:What about that stupid book is worth US$244? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Check out openstax, they are writing pre-reviewed professional open source textbooks ( Creative Commons ) and were funded by Gates, I think the last round of funding got them $10 million for another ten books. http://openstaxcollege.org/books

    4. Re:What about that stupid book is worth US$244? by aaaaaaargh! · · Score: 1

      Or you could write the book, publish it at a large publishing company and get tenure + more money elsewhere.

    5. Re:What about that stupid book is worth US$244? by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      I really fucking hate this about academia.

      Nope, you mean "American undergraduate university teaching", not academia.

      This is not an academic thing. This is something very peculiar to undergraduate teaching in the US.

      I think partly it is the obsession with setting millions of questions for students to do. That way one can make it easy on the lecturer by declaring that the student just do a bunch from a textbook.

      The system I went through doesn't even remotely work in that way. At the very beginning the lecturer in question (which eventually included me, at least for a while) made a list of recommended books. There were usually about 4 or 5 of unspecified edition, and there would be a bunch of some of them in the various libraries. Students were very much NOT expected to buy any of them unless they really wanted to. As the courses got more specialised, the list of textbooks would get longer (as no book covered everything), then disappeared completely when it became too cutting edge.

      Some of the lecturers more advanced in years would occasionally give a glowing recommendation to a book that went out of print some time during the paleocene. I suspect it was a book they found useful as an undergrad and never checked to see if was still in print.

      We then lectured. Every so often, a sheet of about 10-15 questions was handed out such that there were about 4 sheets in a 16 lecture course. The questions and lecture notes are generally handed to the next person when the course moves on to a new lecturer for them to use or ignore as they see fit.

      It works well. The question sheet means that a specfic edition of a book or even a specific book at all is not required. Us writing the questions means that there's more incentive to have a small number of good questions rather than vast heaps of busy work.

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    6. Re:What about that stupid book is worth US$244? by pjpII · · Score: 1

      Actually, the issue here are the incentives in academia. Textbook publishing is not considered meaningful academic publishing in almost any field. The 'coin of the realm' in academia is peer reviewed argumentative publications - this is what 'buys' you tenure, promotion to Full Professor, etc - and those promotions are one of the few ways to get a raise.

      Writing a textbook is time consuming, difficult, and basically unappreciated. From TFA: "He spent seven years on it, saying later that with his teaching, research and writing, he worked 13 hours a day for 364 days of the year." That textbook was unlikely to get him tenure or a promotion, so the only way to get a return on that investment is to try to make money off of it.

      So basically the problem is that academia doesn't incentivize, and really disincentivizes, the production of things like textbooks. It's part of a larger problem that keeps academia disconnected from the public - the only thing that academics are encouraged to produce are generally those things that are least relevant to the real world. Writing something accessible to a non-specialist audience is a waste of time and potentially career suicide.

  12. PUSKUNOV is the best by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

    Differential and Integral Caculus. From Mir publications, Moscow. Almost all the IITians swear by it. Sadly I lost my copy.

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    1. Re:PUSKUNOV is the best by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Are you talking about this book? Apparently, if you want badly, you can print it yourself.

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    2. Re:PUSKUNOV is the best by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1
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    3. Re:PUSKUNOV is the best by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

      But, but, but... it does not have notes I had scribbled on the margins. ...

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    4. Re:PUSKUNOV is the best by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      Wow. I remember finding a copy in the library when I was studying for the IB Diploma, and I subsequently wrote my IB final thesis on Lyapunov stability, a concept I found in Volume II.

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    5. Re:PUSKUNOV is the best by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Well, you'll have to scribble them again. ;-)

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  13. Too soon? by tehlinux · · Score: 1

    So no new edition next year?!

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    1. Re:Too soon? by Que_Ball · · Score: 1

      Actually, now that you mention it
      http://www.amazon.com/Calculus-James-Stewart/dp/1285740629

      8th edition available March 20, 2015.
      Price: $266.99

    2. Re:Too soon? by tehlinux · · Score: 1

      So, *not* too soon...

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  14. Re:What are the implications for the textbook mark by DexterIsADog · · Score: 1

    Textbook publishers are right up there with advertisers and telephone sanitizers. Shoot the bastards into space and be done with them.

    Advertisers perform a useful service, but I really have to point out that sending the telephone sanitizers onto the colony ship resulted in the complete destruction of the Golgafrinchans. Why do so many people misperceive that point, and compare (group of people they believe are useless) with the telephone sanitizers?

  15. Re:What are the implications for the textbook mark by Irate+Engineer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Agreed, but I actually don't get paid to publish. I am at a teaching college, and I teach a very full load plus do a number of administrative duties.

    Your idea is good, but the unfortunate thing is that anyone who puts that much effort into writing a text is eventually drawn to trying to monetizing it, either themselves or by the institution itself. Also, many accreditation organizations want to see mainstream textbooks used. Nothing technically says you need these books, but things suddenly get difficult during accreditation when they start seeing locally published texts on display. Same with printing off a text from 1920 - completely usable and accurate text, but try to defend the use of a century old text when new textbooks are available? Do you want to risk your program's accreditation because of that?

    And this is before all the bullshit you need to wade through with the school bookstore trying to turn a buck. I got yelled at for recommending to my students to buy the course text online vs. going through the bookstore ($40-$60 bucks vs $250 at the bookstore for the same text).

    College isn't about learning anymore, it's all about making money.

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  16. Re:What are the implications for the textbook mark by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 1

    Rewrite? As in actually revise the text? No way.

    Thanks for taking one word from my post without the requisite context and using it as a basis for an ill-informed rant (or, rather, an informed rant about something different from what I was talking about).

    Look, I hate the textbook edition nonsense as much as you, but my post was specifically about what usually happens when A NEW AUTHOR is added. I know major textbook authors personally. I've seen generational shifts where a new co-author is added onto a textbook. Usually that is when revision is most likely to happen, since the new author will often have a few choice tidbits to add or put their own spin on a few chapters. My post was actually intending to insult these co-authors for the little work they sometimes do when taking over, but you seem to have taken it as though I was somehow praising them or implying they do more than they do.

    Whatever. Take a break from your lunatic thermo rant and go sit in on a reading comprehension class sometime.

  17. Math author dies rich... by nbauman · · Score: 5, Informative

    When I studied calculus the hardest part was studying calculus, not buying the book. Textbooks were a lot cheaper.

    Even cheaper, my math teacher used to organize book-buying from Taiwan.

    At that time (1959), there was no copyright agreement between the U.S. and Taiwan (and besides, they were fighting Communism), so it was completely legal.

    They cost about a tenth of U.S. prices. The publisher he used had reprints of all the popular math and science books (like Dover, except not limited to to public domain). They had an entire Encyclopedia Britannica for about $25.

    Dover of course used to re-publish the out-of-copyright and out-of-print math and science classics. There was a time when a professor could have a rare out-of-print book, that nobody else could get, and teach an entire class out of that book. Dover put an end to that.

    Of course the Mickey Mouse Copyright Extension Act put an end to Dover (or at least their reprint business) by extending the copyright to 100 years after the author's death.

    So the great classics, like Yakov Perelman's Physics for Entertainment (the world's largest-selling physics textbook), are now out of print, even though Perelman died in the siege of Leningrad.

    The other source of cheap textbooks was the Soviet Foreign Languages Publishing House in Moscow, which translated all the great Soviet science and math textbooks, including Perelman's, into every major language of the world, including English, and sold them cheaply everywhere. They were even cheaper than Dover, $2 apiece. And the Soviets didn't believe in copyright, so Dover or anybody could reprint them. I've heard Indian scientists reminisce about how they grew up reading Perelman as children.

    It's too bad the Soviet Union didn't survive until the Internet. They could have put all their scientific, literary and music works online copyright-free.

  18. Darn by Snufu · · Score: 1

    Now we'll never know how the series ends.

  19. Oh no! by Tetetrasaurus · · Score: 1

    Who will blindly rearrange the chapters every year to keep students from buying used texts?

  20. Re:What are the implications for the textbook mark by linuxrocks123 · · Score: 2

    Depressing view. Not saying you're wrong, of course, just that it would be a social good to solve these problems somehow.

    This is a good start toward solving the problem: http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/onl...

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  21. Re:What are the implications for the textbook mark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    http://openstaxcollege.org/

  22. Re:What are the implications for the textbook mark by Firethorn · · Score: 2

    It's pissing me and the students off because they really do need to have a text.

    How long is this going to be true with resources like Khan Academy, Purple math, and everything else out there?

    I am currently pissed at my calculus text(Larson/Edwards 5thEd ETC). While I read the chapters, more than half the book is actually just problems to work out, and worse, the methods to solve said problems are often not in the text. So I'd place my actual learning at about 10% textbook(and I'm being generous), 30% lecture, 20% math tutoring/TA help, 40% internet.

    When the teacher is assigning roughly 1/10th of the problems as homework in a manner that often resembles 'this looks good, I like this one', etc... It should be trivial for him to do up said problems on a handout. Well, I'd recommend he make the problems up himself, but you should get the point.

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  23. Since this has turned into a textbook bitchfest... by gman003 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, it seems we're disregarding the actual story in lieu of bitching about textbooks. So here's my story of interest:

    My own stupid textbook story is from Statics. The prof listed a textbook, title, version and ISBN. I ordered online to save some cash, everyone else bought from the campus bookstore.

    About two weeks in, I've failed every homework problem. Turns out the version that was listed, and the version I had bought, was the METRIC version, while the campus bookstore had ordered the IMPERIAL version, which everyone else, including the professor, had (I checked the ISBNs, mine was right, so either they have two versions under the same number, or the bookstore "corrected" it to the imperial version). The problems were the same, save for the units.

    Brief aside: Why the hell is there even an engineering textbook in non-metric units? Who the hell is designing bridges in feet, pounds and slugs? It's probably just to keep American students from buying cheaper foreign copies.

    In any case, we worked out a deal - I just copied the text of the problem before showing my work. My grade instantly shot up. Not quite to an A- despite having passed an "Algebra and Trigonometry" class, I'd never actually been taught trig, and was trying to learn it independently for both Statics and Calc II.

  24. P&M? by govett · · Score: 1

    I used Protter and Morrey, lo these many decades ago.

    1. Re:P&M? by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      I have mine on shelf three feet to my left. College Calculus with Analytic Geometry (C) 1964, Fourth Printing 1966. We might be old 8D

  25. He was a great teacher too by bellwould · · Score: 1

    I used Stewart's text at McMaster in '82 as a coil-bound, courier-font tome with hand-drawn diagrams for $10. Steward was my 1st year calculus prof and he was the best math teacher I've ever had. He certainly wasn't rich back then, and if he made shrewd investments with his book income, all the power to him. Remember that the publisher sets the price and profit margin, the author only gets a sliver; fortunately, the book sold well. Publishers are like thieves in the way they force schools to unnecessarily sell a new edition every year.

  26. Re:What are the implications for the textbook mark by camperdave · · Score: 1

    Yay! Only 75 more years until I can study Calculus for free!

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  27. Re:What are the implications for the textbook mark by EuclideanSilence · · Score: 1

    So I'd place my actual learning at about 10% textbook(and I'm being generous), 30% lecture, 20% math tutoring/TA help, 40% internet.

    Since I don't know your specific situation, I could be completely misinterpreting what you mean. But it seems you have 0% "figure out the problem".

    Math isn't a subject that has to be learned the way foreign language or geography has to be learned. If you don't have something described to you in a book, then you absolutely need another reference to learn most subjects (such as a TA, Lecture, or Internet).

    But with math you never need a reference for anything but definitions, and most definitions should be obvious anyway. There is always a first person to solve a math problem, and he had no references.

    Like I said, I could be completely misreading your situation, but from what you wrote, it sounds like if there isn't a template for how to solve every single problem type that you give up. If all you know how to do is follow methods and change numbers around here and there, then you aren't learning math.

    The greatest instruction anyone can give a person who pursues math is simply to ask a question that they can solve if they try. Many of us who study math seriously love nothing more than to be given a problem that's just barely out of reach.

  28. Re:What are the implications for the textbook mark by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

    Since I don't know your specific situation, I could be completely misinterpreting what you mean. But it seems you have 0% "figure out the problem".

    Math isn't a subject that has to be learned the way foreign language or geography has to be learned. If you don't have something described to you in a book, then you absolutely need another reference to learn most subjects (such as a TA, Lecture, or Internet).

    But with math you never need a reference for anything but definitions, and most definitions should be obvious anyway. There is always a first person to solve a math problem, and he had no references.

    Like I said, I could be completely misreading your situation, but from what you wrote, it sounds like if there isn't a template for how to solve every single problem type that you give up. If all you know how to do is follow methods and change numbers around here and there, then you aren't learning math.

    The greatest instruction anyone can give a person who pursues math is simply to ask a question that they can solve if they try. Many of us who study math seriously love nothing more than to be given a problem that's just barely out of reach.

    That and Physics is the same way.

    It's probably why those subjects are "hard" because they require creativity and inspiration to actually do - it's problem solving at its simplest level and it's what those in the engineering fields thrive on.

    Anyhow, if you're struck trying to do math problems, you have to realize that they all follow the same pattern. After the subject is introduced, the first few problems will be solved by direct application of the lesson. Then the next few will be ones applying the current lesson and previous lessons. It all accumulates until the final set of problems involves a bunch of skills from the text, from your past math education, and so on.

    And if you're struggling, the goal is not do just the required problems, but to start at the beginning of the problem set.and do them all. Yes, it's beyond the assignment, but you have to realize that the assignment is just the tip of the iceberg - a good prof already tells you that the problem set they assign is hard, and to really do it, a good student needs to do the entire set.

    Same goes for physics problems. The first few questions directly apply equations and formulas from the chapter. Then the next ones apply several concepts together until you get to the mega one that pulls in multiple methods. And many even have multiple ways of tackling the problem that are correct. (Previous problems will lead y ou down each path thent he final one lets you decide which one you use). On an exam, that's a lifesaver because it lets you try both ways and if you don't get the same answer, you messed up.

    The goal is to realize that the text is giving you the tools, the probme is to string those tools together. It's like programming or engineering.

    And sometimes the most satisfying problems are the ones that look like they're impossible,but when you start realizing what you have, where you need to go, and little brain power and then AHA!

    Hell, one trick I do is you write down everything you know that was given in the problem. Then figure out what you need to answer, and figure out what gets you there. And draw pictures, schematics, whatever to illustrate those factors you know, what you don't, and the pieces you do have. And the pieces that are implied

  29. Re:What are the implications for the textbook mark by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

    I teach out of a thermodynamics text that gets churned every year or so.

    Well, then don't. I went through university in the English system, up to and including being a lecturer for a while. The simple solution to this problem is simply to NOT teach out of a text book in this way. It is simply not in the unicersity culture here to to that.

    Textbooks are helpful but the students do not need THAT specific textbook.

    The first thing to do is write the questions yourself[*]. They're not nearly as hard to write as exam questions because frankly if you screw up a bit on one or two it matters much, much less, they also don't have to be a consistent length or difficulty. You also have a textbook full of questions for insipration. On the courses I was teaching, the lecturers would always hand materials to the next person, and the question sheets often had the year in which the questions were written. One nice undergraduate reminded my of my age by declaring that some of the questions were older than he was.

    So, find a few good textbooks and recommend them to the students at the beginning of the course, as a genuine recommendation and not a recommend but I actually mean you have to buy this kind of thing. Then give your lectures and set your questions. The students can then work from the lectures, or any edition of any textbook.

    [*] One problem is it seems the American system is based on setting vastly insane numers of questions, which may make this more difficult.

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  30. Low Cost Textbooks by nameer · · Score: 1

    To the professors out there. Textbooks don't have to be so expensive. Dover has great titles for under $30. My analysis class was taught with a Dover book and a good teacher. Worked great and saved me who knows how many hundreds of dollars.

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  31. Are you serious? by gerald.edward.butler · · Score: 1

    I cannot believe these kind of crappy comments. I have the textbook written by Stewart. It is excellent. Every book I ever purchased for College (with my own money as I worked through College) I still own. People who complain about the cost of textbooks that are well written, well illustrated, etc and complain about their debt are jackasses as far as I'm concerned. Why don't you have a little admiration for the work that went into creating it. For fuck's sake, sometimes I think that America is full of whiny pieces of shit.

  32. Re:What are the implications for the textbook mark by Firethorn · · Score: 1

    Since I don't know your specific situation, I could be completely misinterpreting what you mean. But it seems you have 0% "figure out the problem".

    Yeah, you're off. Really, my solve rate was darn near 100%, but I hit the occasional spot where I was asking 'what the hell are they looking for me to produce?' - and the answer wasn't in the book.

    I wasn't counting the problems where I already knew what to do, or could figure it out without outside assistance. That's practice, not learning. Of my learning, IE learning the symbols, the properties of various constants and such, the execution of various rules*, that was done as I said - mostly NOT using the book.

    *Not enough time in the tests to re-derive them, had to memorize

    Like I said, I could be completely misreading your situation, but from what you wrote, it sounds like if there isn't a template for how to solve every single problem type that you give up.

    I'd hardly call what I did 'giving up'. I would work a problem until I not only had it solved, but I understood the solving method. It must of worked, seeing as how I pulled an A in a class where 90% of my grade was from closed book tests.

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  33. Dover Press Books by westlake · · Score: 2

    Dover of course used to re-publish the out-of-copyright and out-of-print math and science classics. There was a time when a professor could have a rare out-of-print book, that nobody else could get, and teach an entire class out of that book. Dover put an end to that.

    Of course the Mickey Mouse Copyright Extension Act put an end to Dover (or at least their reprint business) by extending the copyright to 100 years after the author's death.

    Does anyone ever bother to fact-check their rants before posting them to Slashdot?

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    1. Re:Dover Press Books by nbauman · · Score: 2

      Yes, they can reprint out-of-print books that are more than 100 years old, but they can no longer reprint out-of-print books that are 30 years old, which is how they started in the 1950s. I still can't get the Dover books that I read in the 1960s, because they're orphaned, copyrighted books.

      They couldn't even reprint the 1917 edition of Growth and Form. http://store.doverpublications... They had to get permission and pay royalties to Cambridge.

      I did do a bit of research on this because I work in the publishing industry, and I know a couple of publishers who have reprinted out-of-print books. I found out that some of the classics were out of print, and I thought it would be a good idea to reprint them.

      One of them was Yevgeney Perelman's Physics for Entertainment, which is part of a series, which wasn't even copyrighted because the Soviet Union didn't believe in copyright at that time. Perelman died in the siege of Leningrad. After the fall of the Soviet Union, they went out of print. I talked to some librarians and copyright researchers, and it was impossible to track down who had the ownership under the new copyright law. Was it Russia? Was it his surviving heirs? Were there contracts? A lot of publishers didn't even keep their old contracts after the 26-year copyright expired, and now suddenly the copyright was extended to 100 years after the author's death. Publishers went out of business, and their files were destroyed. They signed contracts based on a 26-year term, so it's not clear who owns the rights afterwards. A lot of times you can't even find out when or if the author died. Every so often somebody will publish Perelman's books, but it's illegal. A publisher explained to me that if he were to get caught, which is unlikely, he would just pay royalties. People have also posted Perelman's books on the Internet, but that's also illegal. (Although the copyright law is so complicated, especially for international works, that it would cost thousands of dollars or more in legal fees to figure out what copyright law applies.) The problem with just doing it illegally is that a library can't make their collection illegally available on the Internet. That's why Google books has gaps.

      I can't research Dover's catalog and give you a definitive answer, but Project Guttenberg ran into this problem and wrote about it in detail. I've talked to librarians. The copyright laws have made it impossible to exchange published works that were in the public domain before. That was the purpose of the Sony Bono Copyright Act.

      If you're a copyright lawyer and you know otherwise, I'd be happy to know how I can publish those orphaned works.

    2. Re:Dover Press Books by darenw · · Score: 1

      "(Although the copyright law is so complicated, especially for international works, that it would cost thousands of dollars or more in legal fees to figure out what copyright law applies.)"

      I wonder - what is the point of having laws so complcated, convoluted, ambiguous, detailed or otherwise difficult than no one can figure out what's legal, except by tremendous effort and expense?

  34. Re:What are the implications for the textbook mark by klapaucjusz · · Score: 1

    I got yelled at for recommending to my students to buy the course text online vs. going through the bookstore ($40-$60 bucks vs $250 at the bookstore for the same text).

    Getting yelled at by stupid or corrupt administrators is part of the job.

    College isn't about learning anymore, it's all about making money.

    College is what the lecturers and the students make it. If you've got tenure, then you're pretty much untouchable, precisely so that you can take a stand without fear of the repercussions. (Of course, if you haven't got tenure yet, then tread carefully.)

  35. My favorite thing about Stewart's Calculus by Vyse+of+Arcadia · · Score: 1

    I teach out of Stewart's Calculus, and here's my "favorite" thing about the text. He has an extensive sidebar detailing the correct spelling of L'Hospital, and why we should honor the man by spelling his name the way he did instead of with the modern French spelling. And then he consistently refers to Johann Bernoulli as John.

  36. Re:Since this has turned into a textbook bitchfest by BlackPignouf · · Score: 1

    I'd never actually been taught trig, and was trying to learn it independently for both Statics and Calc II.

    I tried to learn trigonometry by heart for a long time, and it never worked.
    I would try to learn this : http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu... and could not remember anything with 100% certainty.
    Is it cos(a)cos(b)-sin(a)sin(b) or cos(a)cos(b)+sin(a)sin(b), or maybe cos(a)sin(b)+sin(a)cos(b)?
    Anyway, the best way for me was to remember the one formula to rule them all (Euler's):
    e**ix = cos(x)+i*sin(x)

    Using complex addition, multiplication and e**(i*n*x)=(e**(i*x))**n, I can find all the formulas from the cheat sheet easily.
    It's less error-prone than learning by heart, and it's much more fun because I understand it and can check it with simple geometry.

  37. I've seen worse... by Fortraniac · · Score: 1

    I'm not familiar with Stewart's book, but judging from the first chapter on Amazon it looks really good. Lots of examples and thorough explanations without dumbing down the material. He even presents the epsilon-delta definition of a limit, something which my watered down undergraduate classes never touched. Several people have mentioned Dover books. They are best used as supplementary material, or for solidifying your knowledge after you know a subject fairly well. You'll learn far more about electrodynamics from Griffiths ($141 on Amazon) than from any 50 year old Dover text.

  38. Re:What are the implications for the textbook mark by darenw · · Score: 1

    The textbook publishers could start following the ways of the fine arts world. As soon as an artist keel over, his/her works become more valuable. Certainly not because the works will be revised annually.