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Birds Fled Area Before Tornadoes Appeared

SternisheFan sends a report from scientists who were tracking a group of birds — golden-winged warblers — in the Appalachian mountains. Just a few days after the birds completed their seasonal migration, they did something odd — they picked up and moved again. Shortly thereafter, a series of storms swept through that area of the U.S., which led to a destructive tornado outbreak (abstract). After the storm had blown over, the team recaptured five of the warblers and removed the geolocators. These are tiny devices weighing about half a gram, which measure light levels. Based on the timing and length of the days they record, these gadgets allow scientists to calculate and track the approximate location of migratory birds. In this case, all five indicated that the birds had taken unprecedented evasive action, beginning one to two days ahead of the storm's arrival. "The warblers in our study flew at least 1,500km (932 miles) in total," Dr. Streby said. They escaped just south of the tornadoes' path — and then went straight home again. By 2 May, all five were back in their nesting area."

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  1. So the question is... by DiamondGeezer · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...what ruffled THEIR feathers?

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    1. Re:So the question is... by SternisheFan · · Score: 5, Informative

      ...what ruffled THEIR feathers?

      According to TFA, they sensed low level harmonics in the atmosphere long before the storms arrived...

      " The most likely tip-off was the deep rumble that tornadoes produce, well below what humans can hear. Noise in this "infrasound" range travels thousands of kilometres, and may serve as something of an early warning system for animals that can pick it up. "It's very unlikely that this species is the only group doing this," Dr Streby said. Even from casual birdwatching in the area as the storm drew nearer, he said, "It seemed like there were far fewer birds - so I suspect it's not a species-specific trait." "

    2. Re:So the question is... by amiga3D · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I remember a story about a guy photographing animals in an area where a Tsunami hit back in 2004. He said he was taking pictures when suddenly all the animals, I think he said they were some kind of antelope, suddenly looked toward the ocean then the entire herd ran away. He was greatly puzzled until a while later when he was hanging onto the top of a tree for his very life. I know if I'm somewhere and suddenly all the animals start hauling ass I'm going to follow them.

    3. Re:So the question is... by tompaulco · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Low level harmonics are below what birds can hear too, but they can feel them, and so can we. Of course, Tornadoes that are going to form two days in the future don't produce this deep rumble. They may have sensed the pressure dropping, which humans can also sense, and then they flew away from where they were in hopes of finding higher pressure somewhere else.

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    4. Re:So the question is... by Smauler · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The trouble with stories like this is that animals do a whole host of stuff that we cannot explain, and we connect it to events that happen after the fact.

      Situation 1 : Lots of animals are running somewhere. Nothing happens.... they must have just been spooked by something random.

      Situation 2 : Lots of animals are running somewhere. There's a tsunami/earthquake/tornado.... they must have known something we don't.

      Finding that some animals behave in an odd, unexplained way just before a major natural disaster isn't news - Animals behave in an odd, unexplained way all the time.

      There has been lots of genuine research into animal behaviour to try and predict major natural disasters, nearly all of which has been fruitless. Many animals are killed by natural disasters.

      Now, if someone actually predicted a natural disaster by using animal behaviour, that might be interesting. Saying that the animals acted weird just before, when looking back, is suspect.

    5. Re:So the question is... by TapeCutter · · Score: 5, Interesting

      so why don't we start listening for it with our warning systems?

      That's what I was thinking, also how can a tornado make any type of noise 2 days before it forms? I can understand animals picking up things we can't, deer may hear the rumble of a quake that causes a tsunami, my dog routinely hears thunder 15-20 minutes before I do and looks for a hiding spot, but how the hell does any animal "hear" something that won't exist for another two days?

      Having said that the animal kingdom is full of "mysterious knowledge", for example crocodiles in Northern Australia can somehow "calculate" when a king tide will occur, about an hour before the event they gather at a particular ford across a river where the unusually high tide spills over the ford leaving a bonanza of fish stranded on the rocks. Even Attenborough admits he doesn't have a clue how the crocodiles "know" when to gather at the ford.

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    6. Re:So the question is... by Rakhar · · Score: 4, Informative

      I don't think flying ~500 miles away equates to a deer running scared from a sound in the woods. If this is the same story I saw yesterday, the birds in question had just settled in after a migration flight of 3000 miles or so total. After one or two days back they up and flew ~500 miles away, then came right back to the same spot. This is way more specific than most tales you hear of animals getting away from natural disasters. It's worth looking into for exactly the reason you said, "if someone actually predicted a natural disaster by using animal behaviour, that might be interesting." Thus why it's a news story at all.

    7. Re:So the question is... by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 3, Funny

      Are these the same birds that fly into jet engines and wind generator turbines?

    8. Re:So the question is... by Barsteward · · Score: 2

      I think the fact that it was the whole flock, rather than just a couple, that decamped and came back is important. A couple of birds going off to another destination is not unusual.

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  2. Great observational skills by BitZtream · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wow, someone just now noticed that animals can easily detect incoming low pressure fronts and hide from the weather.

    Guess what, humans are essentially the only ones who can't tell when bad weather is coming. Ask anyone who spends some time in nature rather than hiding in some office or school room.

    Fish, cows, horses, dogs, cats, squirrels, birds, pretty much anything you can think of takes cover well before a storm, except us.

    The warblers weren't running form 'tornados' they were running from low pressure gradients moving in rapidly.

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    1. Re:Great observational skills by itzly · · Score: 3, Funny

      Guess what, humans are essentially the only ones who can't tell when bad weather is coming.

      And we're also the only ones that can understand the weather forecast on TV.

    2. Re:Great observational skills by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, my experience is that humans who spend a lot of time outdoors in all types of weather get pretty good at knowing when to take cover as well. The degree to which this is a product of direct (detecting that a low/high pressure front is coming and similar) or indirect (observing the behavior of animals) is hard to determine since most of the time their prognostication is based on putting together various barely noticed clues.

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    3. Re:Great observational skills by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually, my experience is that humans who spend a lot of time outdoors in all types of weather get pretty good at knowing when to take cover as well. The degree to which this is a product of direct (detecting that a low/high pressure front is coming and similar) or indirect (observing the behavior of animals) is hard to determine since most of the time their prognostication is based on putting together various barely noticed clues.

      "It's quiet. Too quiet ..." Always a sign to run for cover.

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    4. Re:Great observational skills by amiga3D · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think the surprise was how far in advance they detected it. We always knew animals are more in touch with the world.

    5. Re:Great observational skills by tompaulco · · Score: 4, Informative

      Guess what, humans are essentially the only ones who can't tell when bad weather is coming.

      Humans can tell when bad weather is coming. We can sense low pressure and it makes us uneasy. One difference between humans and birds is that birds can fly away but can't hunker down in a shelter and ride it out. Other than birds that build in cliffsides, bird's nests are generally pretty exposed. Humans can't fly, but can hunker down in a shelter and ride it out.

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    6. Re:Great observational skills by BitZtream · · Score: 2

      Yea, I'll place my money on what the animals are doing, which are FAR more accurate than any weather forecast I've seen.

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    7. Re:Great observational skills by Immerman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Flying 1500km is a lot more than "taking cover from a storm" - thats a *lot* of calories to spend, especially right after an already strenuous migration. Pressure changes are common occurrences, so the question is what sort of telltales did they pick up on that let them know this was a storm worth running from rather than just taking shelter?

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    8. Re:Great observational skills by TapeCutter · · Score: 3, Interesting

      [Animals are] FAR more accurate than any weather forecast I've seen.

      You see ants moving eggs, maybe it will rain in the next day or two, but how much rain? How much wind? Any hail, tornados? King tide?

      You see humans boarding up windows, sandbagging shops, anchoring boats away from the dock, etc, you know a destructive storm is on it's way.

      Weather forecasts are pretty accurate to 5 days out even here in Melbourne which (like NYC) is notoriously fickle, but you don't need doppler radar and a supercomputer to match the forecasting skill of ants. With a bit of practice mentally tracking wind direction, looking at clouds and feeling/smelling the (fresh) air will give you a fair idea of tomorrow's weather.

      Natural disasters happen to both species, by all reasonable standards humans are much better at predicting severe weather than animals since (at worst) we have the capacity to simultaneously observe many diverse species to make a statistically combined animal/plant forecast. Having said that, even the humble ants will have buried their dead and rebuilt their city in under a week.

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  3. 6th sense by Brad1138 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It has long been reported that animals act odd before earthquakes, I had never heard about before tornado's. Animals do seem to have some "6th sense" that we just don't understand.

    I had an idea over ten years ago, that I hoped could save lives and make me money, but I'll never do anything with it, so here it is:

    One animal acting strange (as in before an earth quake or whatever) is nothing, but a large number of animals in a specific area, could very possibly be a warning of impending danger. If there was a (well known) web site that you could report your animal acting "weird", or out of the ordinary to, you would have random reports from all over the place, but if you mapped results in real time and saw a lot of activity in a specific area, that could be an early warning. I don't see why it wouldn't work, assuming the "animals act weird before events" theory is correct.

    Anyway, if this works and saves lives, remember you heard it here first.

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    1. Re:6th sense by SternisheFan · · Score: 2
      Here's a gif of one dog sensing an earthquake...

      http://i.imgur.com/ptO7EoX.gif

    2. Re:6th sense by Brad1138 · · Score: 2

      We had a large 6.8 earth quake in early 2001 in Washington state. Our neighbor and friend had a smallish (about 10-15 lb) dog. When you opened the front door, if she didn't have ahold of her dog, it would bolt for the door and do everything it could to squeeze through the gap and run free for hours. You would try to keep the door barely open, or put your leg in it, but her dog would always do everything it could to get by.

      The morning a few hours before the earth quake, she opened the front door and the dog wouldn't go near it. Your example is cool (thanks), but that isn't enough time to be helpful, if there was at least 15 to 30 minutes or so, of warning, then I think it could be useful.

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    3. Re:6th sense by Wycliffe · · Score: 3, Interesting

      One animal acting strange (as in before an earth quake or whatever) is nothing, but a large number of animals in a specific area, could very possibly be a warning of impending danger. If there was a (well known) web site that you could report your animal acting "weird", or out of the ordinary to, you would have random reports from all over the place, but if you mapped results in real time and saw a lot of activity in a specific area, that could be an early warning. I don't see why it wouldn't work, assuming the "animals act weird before events" theory is correct.
        Anyway, if this works and saves lives, remember you heard it here first.

      Requiring people to report it would probably be too slow. On the other hand, putting trackers on a couple hundred sparrows in
      every town and running it into a large neural net and training it based on actual tornados might get some decent results.
      It might be possible to create an actual "canary network" that could warn us much sooner in advance than we currently have
      for tornados. If the "canary network" actually worked, we could always move to "phase 2" where we tried to match it to
      pressure, inaudible sounds, etc... and create an electronic canary which would be easier to manage than live birds but
      using live birds until we figured out exactly how they did it wouldn't be too difficult.

  4. Laugh by koan · · Score: 5, Informative

    This sort of thing makes me chuckle, I grew up around a forest (and a jungle too) and we could always tell when people (or predators) were coming into our area.
    The birds went silent or made their warning calls, the thing is you kind of learned those sounds (or lack of) subconsciously.
    As we got older we made the connection, but as kids when the birds went silent so did we, listening for what it was they heard or saw.

    There were a variety of other indicators for things like seasonal changes (ant nest activity etc) and we learned these things for our areas as well.
    So it's no surprise to anyone living near by or in the woods that animals can do this, that is if they pay attention.

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  5. Additive Noise Model by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 4, Funny

    According to the Additive Noise Model, the birds didn't avoid the storm. They caused it.

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  6. Skittish? by Gliscameria · · Score: 2

    Maybe birds are just super skittish and just run off whenever any weather event is on the way?

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  7. Re:All those flapping wings by B1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's like the butterfly effect but with birds!

  8. Must have been bird Twitter. by MakersDirector · · Score: 2, Funny

    Must have been bird Twitter.

  9. this is new info??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This has been common knowledge for years, I was taught growing up to pay attention to the animals while in the wild... how is this even news????

  10. Re:So to prevent tornados... by tlambert · · Score: 2

    Predict - maybe. I don't think the birds could have prevented the tornadoes if they had tried.

    Get with the program: tornados come to places that birds aren't. Force the birds to stay, the tornados can't come to the area. African and European swallows would work equally well for this purpose. It's like magnets... :)

  11. Re:All those flapping wings by Boronx · · Score: 2

    How do you know some butterfly didn't cause the birds to move?