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US Seeks China's Help Against North Korean Cyberattacks
An anonymous reader writes The United States has declined an offer by North Korea for a joint investigation into the hacking of Sony Pictures and asked China to help block cyber attacks. "We have discussed this issue with the Chinese to share information, express our concerns about this attack, and to ask for their cooperation," a senior administration official said. "In our cybersecurity discussions, both China and the United States have expressed the view that conducting destructive attacks in cyberspace is outside the norms of appropriate cyber behavior." China has so far seemed less than sympathetic: "Any civilized world will oppose hacker attacks or terror threats. But a movie like The Interview, which makes fun of the leader of an enemy of the U.S., is nothing to be proud of for Hollywood and U.S. society," said an editorial in The Global Times, a tabloid sister paper to China's official The People's Daily. "No matter how the U.S. society looks at North Korea and Kim Jong Un, Kim is still the leader of the country. The vicious mocking of Kim is only a result of senseless cultural arrogance."
The irony is more than a little thick.
Why did we ask China to help us avenge an attack on a Japanese business?
but Americans are of course willing to hate whoever their government and media tells them to hate, and will do so until their mouths are frothing. Today it is North Korea, tomorrow it will be Iran, Pakistan, and everyone else who does not want to yield.
China is the logical choice to ask. After all, they're behind many of the attacks on government and business. Kind of like "takes a thief to catch a thief."
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The DPRK has already launched the toughest counteraction. Nothing is more serious miscalculation than guessing that just a single movie production company is the target of this counteraction. Our target is all the citadels of the U.S. imperialists who earned the bitterest grudge of all Koreans.
They then go on to say that their soldiers along with the hackers in question are sharpening their bayonets. North Korea seems to want to have it both ways: claiming that they didn't do it, but wanting everyone to take their threats seriously like they did. At this point, there really shouldn't be substantial doubt that North Korea is responsible. The only question is what the proper response is.
America has turned into a very weak society. Lets all run around with our panties in a bunch and do what we are told. In world war II, america had cartoons of hitler and the japs, and no one cared what hitler thought about them, or were ready to lay down and die at hitler's command. Ive actually seen comments that it was stupid for us to make a movie such as the interview. What about sony maybe hiring an IT guy to secure their network? Oh, we can't do that with our millions. I noted a week later, their network was still comprimised if not longer now. That job is certainly non existant, or outsourced to another country who couldnt care less and is known for scamming clueless american computer users for money.
Somewhat the right of privacy of a corporation matters, while the right of privacy of basically 99.99% of mankind (at least, of the ones with access to internet) has been abolished. Do as I say, not as i do.
I for one am tired of N. Korea's arrogance in having been successful in shutting down Sony's release of the movie. I say it's time to strike back - how about we start a meme where we photoshop and videoshop/YouTube images of Kim Jong Un into compromising depictions? I'm being completely serious. Let's see if N. Korea can shut down the entire internet before we make a laughing stock of them.
If China or North Korea made a movie about killing a US president would you feel the same way?
Somehow doubt it.
In China (and most east-asian cultures), you never disrespect rulers. It simply is not done, and they see it as a grave insult to the entire nation to do so.
In west-european and north-american cultures, particularly the US, everyone is a fair target for mockery. We mock Kim Jong-eun because he does things worth making fun of. We mocked Hitler because he did things worth making fun of, and we continue to do so. We also mocked Obama, Bush, Clinton... we still regularly mock Nixon, just because it's still funny. Britain makes fun of Cameron, and to a lesser extent, the Royal Family. We have entire industries based around making a mockery of our political leaders, and we would be insulted if you asked us to stop.
The only ones we do not mock are those who do absolutely nothing and are of no significance whatsoever. It would be a greater insult for us to NOT satirize them, because that says we don't give a single shit about them, that they are not even worthy of our derision.
It's really gone too far now, from a laughable hack to a global embarrassment courtesy of Hollywood, destroyer of ethics, morals and purveyor of propaganda for decades.
If you want to show weakness, asking China for help was a great way to do it, tie this fiasco in with Feinstein's "torture report" that put American lives in danger overseas and we have a clear picture of 3rd Worldism incompetence.
"If any question why we died, Tell them because our fathers lied."
There is no political currency in asking for your 'cyber-enemy' to cooperate in investigating an attack by a country whose biggest ally is said cyber-enemy. It's a worthless news-bit at best, and opening a door for problems at worst...imagine, US who accuses China of so many cyber attacks, now saying to China "can you help us investigate the SPE attack" (a Japanese company, 'China's sworn enemy'). The whole thing is turning into a fucking clown-shoes filled dance party.
I don't think NK is a satellite state in the usual sense of the word. China certainly shields NK, but its reasoning isn't always clear. NK does act as a major counterbalance to US interests (Japan, South Kore and Taiwan). At the same time, NK seems extremely suspicious of China and some believe that at least part of the reason for the latest purge was to cut out members of the regime with too close a ties to China.
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Riiiiiight.... This really illustrates the double standard and opposition to freedom of expression by Chinese leaders. Hollywood has had the US president appear as all sorts of unsavoury characters, from an utter buffoon to corrupt in numerous films and tv series. (As well as other Western allies, like the UK Prime Minister.) You don't see China complaining about that... It's not 'senseless cultural ignorance', it's just the sense of humour from a few writers. Maybe Chinese leaders should investigate their own senseless cultural ignorance too. Their wilful, state-enforced ignorance is just about as senseless as these films.
It seems that even the FBI's evidence isn't watertight. They only claimed that the tools used were similar to attacks that had previously originated from North Korea.
The FBI said technical analysis of malicious software used in the Sony attack found links to malware that "North Korean actors" had developed and found a "significant overlap" with "other malicious cyber activity" previously tied to Pyongyang. But it otherwise gave scant details on how it concluded that North Korea was behind the attack.
We could make him so fat he damages his own joints... Damn, he even beat us to that bit of parody.
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Seriously. Sony pictures is a subsidiary of a Japanese company, shouldnt the japanese government do something? North Korea has patently denied having a hand in the hacks or the threats against theatres, so shouldnt we work with them as theyre the victim here? This is a seriously disproportionate level of concern for whats basically been a pretty positive release. We found out studios are maliciously litigating google by bribing attorney generals, so who knows what other nefarious things theyre doing. Or is this all just ideological posturing on the part of an american government thats struggling to do something, anything, to prove its international policy is still relevant or meaningful.
Good people go to bed earlier.
The vicious mocking of Kim is only a result of senseless cultural arrogance.
It's unusual to see such a blatant case of the pot calling the kettle black. North Korea's cultural arrogance just can't seem to comprehend that not everyone thinks as they do about mocking heads of State that do absurdly dumb things.
For some bizarre reason, North Koreans seem to think that worshipping stupidity is a virtue. Idiocy deserves to be derided, and their leadership is chock full of idiots.
Did you ever consider that YOU are the target of all these horror stories about the "MAD MAD KIM!!!!!".
The bad Kimmie is a nice and totally harmless diversionary fire for OUR master criminals to pull off some big shit while the Kim plays yet another harmless antic.
Our Top Criminals would even PAY the "bad Kim" towards that end.
PWNED !
Get real, my friend. Stuxnet was designed to prevent psychotic religious fanatics from developing nuclear bombs. There is no real question as to whether the Iranians would use any nuclear bomb under their control to murder 100,000s of Jews in Israel. They have said that they will do it in so many words over and over again in their internal religious sermons. To the foreigners they're a little more diplomatic.
The American-Ashkanzim alliance is the most productive alliance between peoples in all of history. We, as Americans, will never just sit back and watch fascist demented assholes like the Iranian mullahs murder thousands of Jewish people as we did in the early 1940s.
There is no comparison between using hacking to destroy nuclear proliferation and using hacking to suppress an embarrassing Hollywood comedy movie. Anyone who thinks that the two are equal is a fool.
You're a smart person if you're on Slashdot. Don't be a fool.
This "cyber" bullshit is getting out of hand...
...about a stupid movie and a bunch of Hollywood execs and MORON ACTORS.
They do not like the interent as it is, and this whole staged iodiocy is just another way to invent new ways to shut the internet down.
Who gives a crap.
Got Geometrodynamics? Awe, too hard to figure out? Too bad.
The attack was orchestrated from China and China is North Korea's benefactor; the attack is from China.
We're talking about a country (NK) that barely has anything remotely passable as a nuclear weapons program, and people consider them a threat? Over a movie. OVER A GODDAMN MOVIE.
I see you're from Europe.
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Um, they did. We're over it.
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You have nothing to base your supposition on, other than pure speculation.
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Really? Who runs the "US Propaganda machine"? You've been watching too much Wizard of Oz, and there's nobody behind your imaginary curtain.
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