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Writers Say They Feel Censored By Surveillance

schwit1 writes with news about the impact of government surveillance on authors and their work worldwide . A survey of writers around the world by the PEN American Center has found that a significant majority said they were deeply concerned with government surveillance, with many reporting that they have avoided, or have considered avoiding, controversial topics in their work or in personal communications as a result. The findings show that writers consider freedom of expression to be under significant threat around the world in democratic and nondemocratic countries. Some 75 percent of respondents in countries classified as "free," 84 percent in "partly free" countries, and 80 percent in countries that were "not free" said that they were "very" or "somewhat" worried about government surveillance in their countries. The survey, which will be released Monday, was conducted anonymously online in fall 2014 and yielded 772 responses from fiction and nonfiction writers and related professionals, including translators and editors, in 50 countries.

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  1. Travel with paper in U.S. by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I took an airplane flight to Las Vegas a few years ago, I left my laptop at home and took a notebook with me for writing. Although a notebook can be confiscated and read by the police, you have more constitutional rights with dead-tree data than digital data.

  2. Perfect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's working exactly as it should. People are learning to restrain themselves out of fear. Soon nobody will dare challenge the system. Victory is ours!

  3. I wouldn't worry about it by tnk1 · · Score: 2

    The government doesn't have a panopticon.

    Even if it did, it shouldn't make a difference what you write anyway. Writing for any sort of career is public to begin with, if you were only writing love notes to yourself, I doubt the government would care unless it had a very specific interest in you particularly.

    Point being, there is the irrational sense that since they know the government is watching, writers may be outed or made a target somehow. Problem is, they don't need to be monitoring you in real-time for the government to eventually pick up a book or essay of yours from the archives and find out what sort of an anarcho-pinko-terrorist you are.

    Aside from performance artists, writing is one of the original ways for you to get your ideas out there, and it predates the Internet by millenia. Writers have been discovered and imprisoned or harmed for their writing long before Internet surveillance, so I am not sure how this is new, except that it may now be somewhat more efficient.

    1. Re:I wouldn't worry about it by ilparatzo · · Score: 2

      Look what is happening to people who wrote "private", "speech protected" things at Sony that had their communications dumped out on to the Internet? Their names and reputations are being dragged through the dirt. Increased government surveillance can mean the government could, anonymously, do something similar to groups they dislike. It doesn't have to be what I write and make public that destroys me, but my own private communication. And it could be my public writing that causes increased scrutiny on my private writing.

      I would guess that the majority of concern isn't with the government trolling through my public writing. But that the content of my public writing creates increased attention by the government that then does surveillance on me and those around me for "dirt" to either illegitimatize me or worse. Because every writer also has mountains of writing and communication (emails, journals, etc) that they don't intend to make public as they are personal in nature.

      Because of that risk, I then am more careful with what I write such that I don't get unwanted attention from the government surveillance apparatus.

    2. Re:I wouldn't worry about it by Charliemopps · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Your naivety is cute. And yes, that's meant to be demeaning.

      The problem with the current level of surveillance is not that the current government can or will use it for "Evil"
      The problem is that everything you do. Everything you say. Hell, everything you think but don't say but can be gleaned from your Internet searches... is being recorded, all the time, and will be stored forever.

      Lets say you're an avid Gun rights advocate. And you write to your friends about how asault rifles should be legal. Then lets say 20yrs pass by and public opinion takes a radical turn... There are some terrorist attacks or something... Guns become not just heavily regulated but the entire idea of suggesting guns should be unrestricted suggests that you support whomever perpetrated the afore mentioned terrorist attacks... and all your communications are still in that database... You try to get a government job... you try and run for office... you want to get health insurance... But you're blacklisted everywhere.

      Sound far fetched? This is exactly what happened in the McCarthy trials. Those people didn't attend secret communist meetings and plan to overthrow the government. When the idea of communism started to get popular it was a new and interesting political ideology. Lots of people attended meetings. There was a lot of discussion, both good and bad. You could see your neighbor who'd ask where you were headed and say "Oh, Johns throwing a party and going to tell us all about communism, want to come?" and that would not have been weird. But... there were records of all that... A few years passed by, and communism became the enemy of freedom. Suddenly people started looking up all those old logs... Who attended those meetings? Who supported that subversive ideology?!?!

      If everything you do, all day, every day, is recorded. Eventually some of it will become the new enemy of the people or illegal, or who knows what. It is impossible to live your life without eventually saying something that will one day become horribly offensive or even outright illegal. This is also why 24/7 tracking of your driving habits or any other thing is a bad. You can not get through a day without committing a felony. If the government or anyone else has the ability to troll through everything you say and do every second of your life they will invariably be able to find something to hang you with. This is why the justice system requires a complaint accompanied by evidence before authorities area allowed to search your person. Because if they were allowed to search your person in search of evidence of a crime before suspicion, they would always find something.

    3. Re:I wouldn't worry about it by tnk1 · · Score: 2

      Of course, I don't want to downplay the potential for the government to affect you. They certainly could make your life difficult if they wanted to.

      The point is exactly the opposite, I think. Governments have been harassing people who write certain things for centuries. Indeed, that's one reason we know to fear secret polices and the like.

      On the other hand, writers have always lived with that threat. Even in a supposedly free society. When they wanted to be anonymous in the past, they used pen names and perhaps took some other steps. Today, that may not be the case, but I don't think the game has changed so much. You just need to understand how the internet works. That or submit everything by snail mail, so they at least have to bother x-raying your letters now. :)

      I worry that people who have no reason to worry are now worrying, not because of actual surveillance, but because of their fear of such. Its almost like the terrorism threat. How many people are actually going to die to terrorism this year? You're in more danger getting into a car.

      Was anyone really surprised that the NSA or whoever, could spy on us? Has the reality actually changed now?

      It is always better for more people to stand up than for you to hide and hope someone more brave or better positioned than you will carry the torch. That almost always allows your enemies to defeat you in detail because they can come at you one at a time. And don't think they won't know who you are once they are done with the people who stand out more.

      I believe that self-censorship will inevitably make it easier, not more difficult, for the government or others to screw with you.

    4. Re:I wouldn't worry about it by Charliemopps · · Score: 2

      You can not get through a day without committing a felony.

      Is this really true? (We could use a week without felonies instead, if you were exaggerating.) I'm sure people do sometimes commit crimes without any criminal intent, but at least one felony per day (or week) per person? And it has to be something that most people wouldn't think illegal, otherwise they'd at least try to avoid it doing it.

      Yes, its absolutely true. I know a lot of people dispute this, but lawyers and Judges and even the supream court of the unitted states all agree it's true:

      The complexity of modern federal criminal law, codified in several thousand sections of the United States Code and the virtually infinite variety of factual circumstances that might trigger an investigation into a possible violation of the law, make it difficult for anyone to know, in advance, just when a particular set of statements might later appear (to a prosecutor) to be relevant to some such investigation.

      Justice Breyer - 1998
      http://www.law.cornell.edu/sup...
      No person can every know if anything they are saying could be construed as admission of guilt in a crime.

      Estimates of the current size of the body of federal criminal law vary. It has been reported that the Congressional Research Service cannot even count the current number of federal crimes. These laws are scattered in over 50 titles of the United States Code, encompassing roughly 27,000 pages. Worse yet, the statutory code sections often incorporate, by reference, the provisions and sanctions of administrative regulations promulgated by various regulatory agencies under congressional authorization. Estimates of how many such regulations exist are even less well settled, but the ABA thinks there are ”nearly 10,000.”

      -James Duane, Regent Law School professor
      Not even the federal government knows what is a violation of federal law anymore.

      16 U.S.C. 3372 - It is unlawful for any person—
      (1) to import, export, transport, sell, receive, acquire, or purchase any fish or wildlife or plant taken, possessed, transported, or sold in violation of any law, treaty, or regulation of the United States or in violation of any Indian tribal law;

      http://www.law.cornell.edu/usc...
      It is a violation of federal law to be in possession of any plant or animal that is illegal in any other country anywhere on earth.
      Farm Raised Salmon is Illegal in Australia and New Zealand. (probably due to the fishing lobby but who cares) As a result, every time you buy Salmon you're committing a felony. People have been sent to prison over this law, this is no exaggeration. It's all a matter of if a prosecutor wants you in prison or not.

  4. Re:The latest trend... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I understand the sarcasm, but there are tons of other ways that cause self-censorship:

    1: Religious extremists. Salman Rushdie. Enough said.

    2: The fact that one's future in a lot of lines of work can hang on what one has written. There are quite a number of businesses who snoop on people's FB pages, and regardless of settings, can get both private messages, wall, group posts, and other items... then present it to a user. Slashdot had a post about this a year or two ago about a private message about "press '1' for English" being enough to flag someone as "racist" and thus cause them to not be able to be hired.

    3: The fact that there are LEOs out there, domestic and foreign, looking at posts and will happily use that as grounds for arrest. Not just LEOs of one country. With extradition treaties, handing out church bulletins or a picture posts of eating a BLT can be grounds for being arrested, hauled to Saudi Arabia and burned/beheaded. A good example of this are the Aussies and New Zealanders who committed no crimes domestically, but are shipped across the pond to face trial for crimes in another country. It only is a matter of time before this reverses, and someone who makes fun of the Thailand royalty in the US gets shipped over there for lese majeste violations, as per the signed and ratified extradition treaties.

    4: Extradition treaties aside, one can be arrested when they set foot in another country for something they wrote years to decades ago.

    5: A major complaint against some big companies almost always results in a "pay for this to be retracted in every national newspaper or expect to be sued into the ground" notice. They have the battalions of lawyers to make this actually work.

    6: On a smaller scale, even a one star Yelp review can result in lawsuits. They don't even have to have merit... a place can file until a judge smacks them with a vexatious litigant tag... and this can cause the guy who had poor service to be ruined completely.

    7: The local gangs. Someone mentions a local gang on social media, it can get back to the shot caller pretty quickly, who can do a reply with a drive-by.

  5. Yes. by TheDarkener · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not a professional writer/journalist/etc., but as a normal U.S. citizen, and *especially* after 9/11/2001, I have felt like certain topics must be tread upon very carefully when conversing with others online. My own Facebook posts, comments and even "liking" something that might be considered contreversial seemingly spawns a new process in my brain that wants to ask the question, "Should I really?"

    This is probably the most powerful aspect of a surveilled people. If you want to control minds and mouths, you make them hesitant to speak or even think thoughts that might be viewed by others as risky. When people feel constantly judged, whether its by thoughts written, spoken or simply within their own minds, you have them "under control".

    So what's the answer, then? IMHO people simply need more courage to say, 'Fuck you, I don't care what you think of me' because they are brave enough to stand up for themselves (and others). Once this mentality is in place, people start being normal again. Genuine, caring, loving and unjudgemental. Maybe the people who search XKEYSCORE will have to start to understand that peoples' words don't necessarily reflect future actions.

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  6. "Big Brother" isn't just the government by nine-times · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm not a professional writer, but I think this age of social networking must have a chilling effect on speech, even if you discount government surveillance. I personally have become very careful about what I say online, and I'm not eager to have my real name associated with anything I do say. I've had someone (who was sort of a friend) pick up on the wording of some random innocuous Facebook post, interpret it in a way that made it sound misogynous, and then harass me and badmouth me on Facebook. I've had stuff like that happen a few times.

    It also makes me think of another incident, and I'm just glad I was using an account that was unconnected to any of my personal accounts. I was talking on a public web forum, and voiced an opinion to the effect of, "even child abusers deserve due process." Another anonymous user responded claiming that the only reason I would say something like that is if I were a child molester myself. I didn't think much of it, because who cares, right? By the time 24 hours had passed, I had 50 messages in my Inbox from different people, yelling at me for for being a child molester and threatening to track me down. This was literally based on nothing except a random comment in favor of following the law, which was interpreted as being sympathetic to child abuse.

    Now, it might sound like I'm just a complete asshole who says terrible things, and then gets upset when people don't like them. And yeah, every once in a while I do get pretty aggressive in arguments, but I don't think it's too bad. I suppose you can look at my post history and judge for yourself, since I don't censor myself too much on this site. I've had a few people attack me a bit on Slashdot for things that I thought were pretty innocuous posts, but oddly nothing as aggressive and offensive as some of the attacks I've gotten on Facebook from supposed friends, so I'm not very careful here. However, I have had someone get annoyed with me and use some kind of bot to mod down every single post that I made.

    But speaking less about myself, and getting back to the point, I'm worried about the effect these kinds of things have on communication. We've developed a mode of communication where we can talk to each other and publish our thoughts very easily, but meanwhile we've fostered a culture around that communication that's very aggressive. Everyone's picking apart everything you say, looking for a way to be harsh and critical. You have reddit and 4chan lynch mobs trying to find and punish people without having their facts straight. Public figures are being brought to disgrace due to personal communications they thought were private-- which isn't always so bad, but also isn't always productive.

    I don't know. I feel it. If you gave everyone free access to all of my communications, I would honestly not be worried about my friends or family or the government reading it, as much as I'd be worried about the masses to stupid people who might take offense to something that isn't a real problem and isn't any of their business. When I post something publicly on purpose, my biggest concern is that someone I barely know will find some meaning in some little throw-away phrase, take it completely out of context, and use it as a basis as some kind of crazy vendetta.

    1. Re:"Big Brother" isn't just the government by houghi · · Score: 2

      Those masses of stupid people will vote. That is what I am worried about.

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      Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
  7. 60 yrs ago? Anyone remember? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wasn't it the same thing then, with the Red Scare? Hollywood saw it's blacklisting of suspected communists, nevermind actual validation of those accused. I'm sure the 'pen' community treaded carefully then, possibly more so than now. With the age of information we're in, I'd argue the 'Streisand Effect' would guaruntee a certain measure of success, counter to any fears one may have about given content. Unless you were actively tied to a specific event, terrorism... beyond that of a guilty media verdict, I'd venture it's far safer now than ever to push the envelope.

  8. is because this is an actual problem by nimbius · · Score: 4, Interesting

    its referred to as 'the chilling effect' and actions like the edward snowden witch hunt and warrantless detention of journalists in the UK are performed intentionally in order to ensure it remains an effective tool of the state. The things you write about, including the things you research, have enormous consequences. Become too curious about government policies and procedures? The government will have you quietly added to a secret list of people who cannot fly on a plane without meaningless scrutiny. Write a book on how to defeat pseudoscience like polygraph tests? You'll enjoy more than a few nights in jail. People forget that Theo De Raadt was once not only defunded from, but barred entirely from his own conference for speaking out critically of the US governments involvement in iraq. and its not just confined to literature, but code as well. Did you write any ToR code or the exploit to detect cellular phreaking devices secretly used by the government? Maybe bluetooth code to access passports?

    it comes down to this: Anything that cannot be marginalized, or trivialized as unamerican and antipatriotic becomes a direct threat to the ruling establishment and while they arent comfortable silencing your freedom of speech, theyre more than capable of making your life a living hell. Ask Chelsea Manning about her christmas.

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    1. Re:is because this is an actual problem by suutar · · Score: 2

      You're being a bit more literal than the general populace on this one.

      From Merriam-Webster:
      Full Definition of WITCH HUNT
      1
      : a searching out for persecution of persons accused of witchcraft
      2
      : the searching out and deliberate harassment of those (as political opponents) with unpopular views

  9. Re:They Feel? by praxis · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Feelings are rather important when it comes to expressing oneself. If I feel like what I say will be twisted and used against me, I will be less likely to express myself. If everyone feels like what they say has no impact, or worse a negative impact, they'll remain mum and docile.

    The "study" has many, many problems, but the fact that they are concerned by how writers "feel" is not one of them.

  10. No waiting required by fyngyrz · · Score: 2
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    I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
  11. Re:The latest trend... by poetmatt · · Score: 2

    Maybe you're missing the "why" of 99% of this .

    The "Why" is the United States.

    The economic impact on this is drastic.

  12. The only surveillance may be acceptable... by kefalonia · · Score: 2

    ...is when we can watch the watchers;
    Let's explain this: 2-way circuits, where watched and watcher are in total symmetry in an unambiguous way.

  13. It sort of is. by Livius · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's passive-aggressive form of censorship, but freedom of expression is stifled all the same.

    Especially seeing that that was the goal of the surveillance, not an unintended side effect.

  14. The actual report by TobiX · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's the actual report in case anyone is interested.

  15. Depends on who is searching. by tlambert · · Score: 2

    How deep of a search do you imagine at an airport screening though?

    Depends on who is searching. Depends on the on site equipment they have to conduct the search. There are a lot of factors.

    For example, if I wanted to see most recent documents, and I had appropriate workstations available, in about 10-15 minutes, if I though you were worthy of a deep search, by looking at date stamps and sector sparing tables for las sectors pared, and which files they are attributed to, I could likely find everything that changed on the disk from 5 days before you booked the ticket, up to now.

    Even if things are encrypted, that's information, and there are exposed timestamps that could tell me if I should copy/confiscate for further examination, and/or find something incriminating to hold you personally on, or hold you on the suspicion of having done.

  16. If I were to write about Islamic extremism ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... the best way to do it is to get to know some of those extremists to understand their ISLAM OR DIE pov

    And in order to get to know those Islamic extremists I need to go to some of those Islamic extremism sites and start posting

    Under present circumstance, if I were to do that, automatically I am under the radar of the so-called 'security agency' and everything I do, online or off, will be monitored

    How many writers that you know would want to go through all that troubles in the first place?

  17. Learned helplessness by matthollingsworth · · Score: 2

    The aim of our torture program was to induce a state of "learned helplessness" where the subject stopped resisting even when the threats were removed. If people fear speaking out due to illegal spying then I guess it is "Mission Accomplished". I'd say more, but I'm afraid to speak out