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Bill Would Ban Paid Prioritization By ISPs

jfruh writes In the opening days of the new U.S. Congress, a bill has been introduced in both the House and Senate enforcing Net neutrality, making it illegal for ISPs to accept payment to prioritize some traffic packets over others. But the sponsors are all Democrats, and with Republicans now in charge of both house of Congress, the chances of it passing seem slim.

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  1. Yay partisanship! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But the sponsors are all Democrats, and with Republicans now in charge of both house of Congress, the chances of it passing seem slim.

    WooHoo!

    On another note, whenever those assholes work together, Watch out! Like when the PATRIOT act was passed. Or when the criminal Wall Street crooks were given a free ride and bonuses to boot at taxpayer expense.

    And where were the Teabaggers then? Nowhere.

    But there was plenty of those people condemning the Occupy Wall Street kids! Who were protesting against taxpayer money waste!

    Fox News watching morons.

    1. Re:Yay partisanship! by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're right, failing to uphold net neutrality and reform immigration is not what we should be upset about. Failing to punish NSA treason, close Gitmo and protect the environment (all issues that did exist during the Democrat supermajority) is what we should be upset about!

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  2. Re:Fuck the libs! by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Funny. Their actions would suggest they believe in pork barrels.

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  3. Proper Net Neutrality by lgw · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've not been a fan of previous "Net Neutrality" efforts, because they didn't seem likely to fix the problem. This, however, is great. It totally undercuts the ISP extortion racket, without trying to fix a technical problem.

    The big ISPs can always find a loophole in any law that tries to prevent throttling by some technical rules - that's what engineers do: we game a system to maximize some value. Bad approach. By instead saying "do whatever, but you can't charge money for priority access simply removes the incentive to do it in the first place. Good approach.

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  4. Democrats don't want this to pass by cfalcon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If the Democrats wanted this to pass, they would have brought the bill to floor when they had a chance of it actually passing. Far too many in the Democratic party are in the pockets of those that won't let this pass, but by bringing it up now, it can look like the Republicans are the bad guys.

    Which, they are. Both parties are opposed to net neutrality. But this bill is just there for grandstanding. The Democrats could have made net neutrality happen MANY times in the last few years, so this is just to try to smear team red, even though team blue agrees with them totally on this issue.

    1. Re:Democrats don't want this to pass by Lendrick · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's actually a fairly reasonable thing to ask, from a technological and price standpoint.

  5. Re:Better bill than the other net neutrality bills by Shatrat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This still doesn't address the real problem, when an ISP degrades traffic which competes with their other revenue streams. I.E. a cable company degrading netflix traffic or a telephone company degrading skype.

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  6. Fuck the libs! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Republicans believe in "free" market that helps the most powerful Corporations.

  7. Re:Fuck the libs! by dywolf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oddly enough, Net Neutrality is about protecting and strengthening the free market such that it remains free and competitive.

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  8. Re:Fuck the libs! by diamondmagic · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No, Net neutrality is a routing policy about how to prioritize packets that people can choose to implement.

    Using the government to mandate it upon everyone, under threat of legal action, whether it's a good solution or not, is an entirely different issue.

  9. This is what's wrong... by Last_Available_Usern · · Score: 5, Insightful

    and with Republicans now in charge of both house of Congress, the chances of it passing seem slim.

    To preface, this is not a partisan-based slam. This is a slam on our entire system. The fact that we accept something won't pass despite it being universally wanted by "the people" (not pronounced "corporations") shows our biggest hurdle that we as a country need to overcome. Not race/gender equality or financial disparity, but the ability of this country to be propelled forward by a system that is representative to the needs of the many, not the powerful.

    1. Re:This is what's wrong... by diamondmagic · · Score: 1, Insightful

      To preface, this is not a partisan-based slam. This is a slam on our entire system. The fact that we accept something won't pass despite it being universally wanted by "the people" (not pronounced "corporations") shows our biggest hurdle that we as a country need to overcome. Not race/gender equality or financial disparity, but the ability of this country to be propelled forward by a system that is representative to the needs of the many, not the powerful.

      I don't even know where to start on how dangerous this is. This is populism straight up, tyranny of the majority, screw any minority/individual's rights.

      When any group of people can hold a vote and force someone out of their house - or take away their property or life - that's plain wrong.

  10. Re:Fuck the libs! by dywolf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    a routing policy that protects and strengthens a competitive free market among internet based services and companies.

    im well aware of what NN is.

    and one aspect of its implications is that big fish cant pay for preferential treatment or an unfair advantage, allowing upstart "internet startups" a fair shot as taking on goliath. the task of a startup taking on an existing leviathan is hard enough on a level playing field, just by virtue of being a tiny nobody going against a big somebody, but its everyones interests to preevnt Goliath from stopping David from even born. And that is one aspect and implication of a sound NN policy.

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  11. Re:Fuck the libs! by Fire_Wraith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It would be great if we could have an actual debate, on actual solutions, to actual problems.

    Thing is though, on this and many other issues, the politicians/parties don't believe there's a problem, won't propose solutions, and try to shut down, derail, or otherwise prevent actual debate by distorting the issues.

    I would love it if the debate were between Republicans proposing measures to actually increase real competition, versus Democrats proposing measures to prevent the various companies from screwing over their customers. A situation like that, where most of the politicians were actually advocating for what the average citizen wants/needs, would be pretty close to ideal, and the outcome would at least be a reasonably close solution.

    At least the Democrats in this case are trying to suggest solutions. We need Republicans that recognize there's a problem and propose solutions, too.

  12. Forget these bills by Etherwalk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not sure where you were going with that, but the bridge to nowhere was sponsored by Republicans.

    In this case, it doesn't matter if they're Republicans or Democrats. AT&T is a major purchaser of votes in Congress. This has no chance of passing. The people sponsoring it know that and are still doing it so they can campaign on it.

    In other words, it's a dog-and-pony show.

    It is beneath the dignity of the slashdot front page.

    No, really.

    1. Re:Forget these bills by fustakrakich · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You spelled out exactly how it works. And this is why the gullible people who believe there are differences between the two factions are a bunch of idiots. The 'parties' are a team. One plays offense, the other defense, and then they swap.

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    2. Re:Forget these bills by fustakrakich · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I've been watching this crap for over 50 years, it only becomes more obvious with each election. The last 15 have only been a steepening of the curve. But you go ahead, keep working against the truth of this business, it's your job.

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  13. Re:Express Lane? by Qzukk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Our state allows wealthy drivers to pay extra for the convenience and speed of the Express Lane.

    When your state installed this "Express Lane" did it actually add a new lane, or did they wall off existing lanes, forcing everyone who doesn't pay up into fewer lanes than they had before, making the traffic for everyone else worse?

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  14. Re:Fuck the libs! by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Such revisionist history.

    All history is revisionist. Anyone claiming otherwise is trying to sell you something.