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Scientist Says Potential Signs of Ancient Life in Mars Rover Photos

mpicpp notes that a scientist named Nora Noffke says she thinks that the Curiosity rover may have found fossils on Mars. "Time and time again, as we carefully scrutinize the amazing high-resolution imagery flowing to Earth from NASA’s Mars rover Curiosity, we see weird things etched in Martian rocks. Most of the time our brains are playing tricks on us. At other times, however, those familiar rocky features can be interpreted as processes that also occur on Earth. Now, in a paper published in the journal Astrobiology, a geobiologist has related structures photographed by Curiosity of Martian sedimentary rock with structures on Earth that are known to be created by microbial lifeforms."

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  1. No coverup by meglon · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's not that NASA is covering up the proof of life they've found on Mars, it's just that they're trying to figure out who this Kilroy guy was before publishing the report.

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    1. Re:No coverup by Deadstick · · Score: 4, Funny

      You're showing your age.

      OK, OK, I'm off your lawn.

    2. Re: No coverup by Aighearach · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I read a whole book on that experiment, and the long and short of it is that it was inconclusive, there are known non-organic circumstances that could be responsible, and the follow-up experiments were cut because budgets were cut and it was heavy, and most of the scientists on the teams were skeptical.

      There has always been a minority at NASA making those claims in the open. I think it is clear that it is not something "obvious" that NASA "didn't want to admit," but something that some smart people passionately believe, and the majority of their equally smart peers believe is inconclusive.

      Jumping more quickly to a conclusion isn't more science-y, even if you're really excited by the preliminary data and certain interpretations.

  2. Slashdot today. by MozeeToby · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seven comments in, so far there's 4 jokes, 2 anti-us spam/trolls, and 1 crank. Quality discussion there.

    1. Re: Slashdot today. by DustinB · · Score: 3, Insightful

      More like koala tea. All jokes aside, this place isn't what it used to be... :( at its best its usually just inward bickering back and forth instead of discussion. I don't know where to go for insighful intelligent discussion online anymore.

    2. Re:Slashdot today. by iONiUM · · Score: 3, Insightful

      To be fair, there have been many of these "we think we may have found life / ancient life / we have a big announcement" type things out of NASA in the last few years, none of which had "conclusive" (or at least, relatively so) evidence of life.

      It's getting to the point where there's nothing really to discuss until they stop releasing these meta-statements, and actually give a real "we fucking found life FOR SURE" statement.

    3. Re: Slashdot today. by OzPeter · · Score: 5, Informative

      I don't know where to go for insighful intelligent discussion online anymore.

      I go to Ars. They actually have journalists who write stuff and all. And you get the tech news 2-3 days before here.

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    4. Re:Slashdot today. by MozeeToby · · Score: 4, Funny

      What spam filters?

    5. Re:Slashdot today. by solios · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ...and unlike reddit, a registered and logged in user can dock "funny" posts and read at a threshold that scrubs most of the jokers and trolls under the rug. A feature slashdot has had since the 90s; a feature the rest of the internet still hasn't implemented.

  3. Time for some leaps and not baby steps by DumbSwede · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Is it me, or does NASA seem scared to get the answer to the question of is/was there life on Mars?

    Viking’s results where ambiguous, so we decided – NO LIFE – no need to go back for over 20 years.

    Now we keep getting a tantalizing clues, but can’t seem to summon the will to do a sample return mission. How many sample return missions could the ISS fund? How much more scientific benefit would come from it?

    Of late it almost seems like they want to be just shy of proof so they can keep sending missions, getting us just a little closer each time. Call it the scientific method if you want but as Keynes once observed – “in the long run, we are all dead.” How-about we get our answers now?

    How about a real microscope on one of these missions, not just a camera that can take photos of small objects -- far short of microbial dimensions – then insist on calling it a microscopic imager. Hell, why not a scanning electron microscope?

    Most of the scientific instrumentation seems focused on geology. Granted Geology can be related to conditions for life and is important knowledge, but what we really want answered is “is there life on Mars”, not “is there hematite on Mars?” OK hematite on Mars is cool to know, but not as important I think as the Life question.

    When we went to the moon there were far less important questions to be answered. How can the Life question on Mars be so much less a priority when it could up-end so much of scientific knowledge?

    One final note to my rant – is it possible there is some drag on this quest so as to maintain the status quo and not upset a largely religious electorate that assumes we should only be concerned with our fate here on Earth as their God has decreed, or that life on Mars might raise too many uncomfortable questions.

    1. Re:Time for some leaps and not baby steps by Charliemopps · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, they're afraid of saying there is life and being wrong. They're not currently saying there isn't life, they're saying they dont know either way. They have no definitive proof.

      I don't think anyone in the scientific community has any doubts that there was life there at one time. It's just a matter of proving it. I think it's rather likely that there still is life on mars and it will be surprisingly similar to microbial life hear on earth. I suspect our two planets have been inoculating each other for a very very long time.

  4. Re:ok... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    1. The scientist in question is arguably the foremost in her (admittedly obscure) field, the study of microbial mats and their effects on sediments on Earth. She literally wrote the book on the subject and has a very extensive publication record on it. She is a well-known and respected researcher for this work, although admittedly it's obscure stuff at the interface between sedimentology and paleontology.
    2. The pictures themselves are quite clear and are from the mastcam on the Curiosity rover. They aren't distant blurry pictures with huge blocky pixels and horrible processing, although they could be better. The structures interpreted from them, not so convincing, IMHO, but that has little to do with image resolution issues.
    3. She's an assistant professor at Old Dominion University in Virginia.

    I think you scored a 0.5/3. Don't trust your prejudices.

    That being said, I think the interpretations in the paper aren't correct.