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HTTP/2 - the IETF Is Phoning It In

An anonymous reader writes HTTP/2 is back in the spotlight again. After drawing significant ire over a proposal for officially sanctioned snooping, the IETF is drawing criticism for plowing ahead with its plans for HTTP/2 on an unrealistically short schedule and with an insufficiently clear charter. A few days ago the IETF announced Last Call for comments on the HTTP/2 protocol.

Poul-Henning Kamp writes, "Some will expect a major update to the world's most popular protocol to be a technical masterpiece and textbook example for future students of protocol design. Some will expect that a protocol designed during the Snowden revelations will improve their privacy. Others will more cynically suspect the opposite. There may be a general assumption of 'faster.' Many will probably also assume it is 'greener.' And some of us are jaded enough to see the "2.0" and mutter 'Uh-oh, Second Systems Syndrome.' The cheat sheet answers are: no, no, probably not, maybe, no and yes."

"Given this rather mediocre grade-sheet, you may be wondering why HTTP/2.0 is even being considered as a standard in the first place. The Answer is Politics. Google came up with the SPDY protocol, and since they have their own browser, they could play around as they choose to, optimizing the protocol for their particular needs. SPDY was a very good prototype which showed clearly that there was potential for improvement in a new version of the HTTP protocol. Kudos to Google for that. But SPDY also started to smell a lot like a 'walled garden'."

"The IETF, obviously fearing irrelevance, hastily 'discovered' that the HTTP/1.1 protocol needed an update, and tasked a working group with preparing it on an unrealistically short schedule. This ruled out any basis for the new HTTP/2.0 other than the SPDY protocol. With only the most hideous of SPDY's warts removed, and all other attempts at improvement rejected as 'not in scope,' 'too late,' or 'no consensus,' the IETF can now claim relevance and victory by conceding practically every principle ever held dear in return for the privilege of rubber-stamping Google's initiative."

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  1. HTTP isn't why the web is slow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A typical "modern" web site loads untold numbers of scripts and other files from dozens of domains, mostly for tracking, A/B testing and other things that the user doesn't want or need. That's what makes the web slow. I don't think HTTP is a particularly nice protocol, but HTTP/2 is taking a bad protocol and making it worse by "optimizing" it, while the real bottleneck is obviously somewhere else.

    1. Re:HTTP isn't why the web is slow by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 5, Funny

      I was unable to read your post because it didn't contain any pictures to look at or a monkey I could punch.

    2. Re:HTTP isn't why the web is slow by greg1104 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Whenever I bring a new computer up, I'm shocked all over again at just how slow browsers are before ad blocking is enabled. On most sites, all of the real content is there long before all of the ad and tracking content arrives. Today, nothing speeds up a slow computer and connection like Adblock Plus.

  2. Re:Shrug by omnichad · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As a web guy, I still use primarily XHTML. I may call it HTML5 when I need to use an HTML5 tag, but for a true developer/designer who doesn't use a GUI, properly nesting tags is a must. And with HTML5 being so loose, most XHTML documents are also valid HTML5 documents.

    Also - being able to load another web site's XML-compliant DOM to scrape data (for personal use)? Priceless.