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In Paris, Terrorists Kill 2 More, Take At Least 7 Hostages
As reported by The Daily Beast, news on the ongoing terror attack (or attacks) in Paris. Chérif and Saïd Kouachi, who are accused of slaughtering 12 in an attack on Charlie Hebdo magazine, have been cornered by hundreds of security officials close to Charles de Gaulle Airport, north of Paris. Officials say they believe the heavily armed brothers are holding one hostage.
Twenty miles south, in the east of the city, at least one gunman is believed to have taken six hostages at a Jewish store. Police suspect that the third gunman is the same man who shot and killed a policewoman on Thursday morning before escaping in a bulletproof vest. Update: 01/09 17:44 GMT by T : And now all three of the gunmen involved in today's hostage taking are dead.
Watch this space for updates.
Update: 01/09 17:15 GMT by T : CNN's story features a stream of updates (and an autoplaying video ad to beware), as does The Telegraph. Latest news is that brothers Cherif and Said Kouachi have been killed by police, but it's unclear whether the same is true of the third hostage-taker.
More from the religion of peace and tolerance.
Queue up people bringing up the Holy Crusades and other things that took place a good 300 years ago
The moderate Muslims need to more loudly denouce this shit.
Or the assumption will be they agree with the acts of barbarity done in the name of their god.
Because nerds are (generally) supportive of nonviolence and tolerance for unpopular ideas to promote intellectual and creative freedom, and these mindless idiot fundamentalist thugs are the enemy of that and will destroy it if they can. Is it clearer now?
Looking back upon Slashdot history (you know, back when it was News for Nerds), I'd say it's about as clear as fucking mud.
That line you attempt to draw between relevance (Freedom of Speech issue) and Slashdot is practically anorexic, and I can get my usual OMGWTF News from a million other sites online that are in charge of the OMGWTF reporting.
Wanna talk Slashdot with this? How about MI5's move to become an even Bigger Brother with surveillance laws. THAT would be a relevant sub-topic to discuss here, not death tolls and weapons calibers.
In summary, look at the Slashdot of yesteryear before claiming relevance today. No wonder people bitch about how far we've fallen.
And look, they managed to do it without closing Paris down for a day. Maybe Boston could learn something from France about dealing with Muslim terrorists.
...rate of murders per capita from guns ...
Right, because getting bludgeoned or stabbed to death is so much more pleasant. This is what irks me about gungrabbers. You focus on "death by gun" instead of overall death, and you always forget self-defence incidents when guns save lives (including the assailant's life). Compare overall homicide rates, then overall crime rates, then stratify it by income/wealth, then we'll talk.
This is directly related to a story about people who want to censor certain information.
Freedom of speech is as important to geeks as it is to journalists. We design, build and maintain the code and the hardware that journalists use to put out the stories to the public. Back in the print days most people didn't give a crap about what was printed in one country, or even in the next town over. Now we, the computer nerds of the world, have enabled a huge revolution in communication that is affecting entire countries, societies and religions. And we keep creating new ways to share information every day. Control of information, censorship, freedom of speech and the press are hugely intertwined with our nerd lives and livelihoods.
Remember when anti-free-speech advocates tried to censor music lyrics? I do. Remember when they tried to ban many video games? I do. Remember wen they started shooting people who published satirical cartoons? Computer nerds like us are all about moving bits of information around. We thrive on information, data and ideas. It's what we're all about. And these shootings are a direct result of people trying to restrict the free exchange of ideas, which is the foundation of modern society.
Any computer nerd, in fact anyone who appreciates their modern life, should want to know about anyone who is threatening the free flow of information.
Christianity is not much better, if you actually read the bible. Thankfully most churches ignore the parts of the bible that promote exactly the same actions that we criticize "radical Muslims" for... but then again, most Muslims also ignore those parts of the Koran. The difference is that there seem to be fewer "radical Christians" that interpret the bible literally, otherwise we'd be getting it from both sides.
However, if there were more radical Christians, maybe people would realize that Islam isn't the issue... it's religion as a whole that's the problem.
Check out Deuteronomy 20 some day, before you reply.
I used to have a sig, but I set it free and it never came back.
Yeah, because everyone with a fucking grievance grabs an AK-47 and shoots up a magazine don't they love?
Just what the hell does it take to knock some common sense into these bloody liberals??
Irony: right-wingers complaining about left-wingers painting them as violent lunatics and then threatening them with violence.
Of course, in the interest of literal correctness, you didn't threaten to shoot them up with an AK-47. So it's grazing irony, not center-of-mass double-tap irony.
Welcome to the Panopticon. Used to be a prison, now it's your home.
"Conservatives did try to murder the NEA over that!"
Trying to shut a government agency is attempted murder?
So, does that mean trying to shut down a corporation is attempted murder as well?
(Note, I don't want the NEA shut down, but equating it to murdering a person is ridiculous.)
Conservatives did try to murder the NEA [arts.gov] over that!
Actually, I believe they tried to stop the government from forcing people to pay for having such art made. Some people saw the creation of Piss Christ as being outside the role of the federal government. Crazy, I know.
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
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Complaining about the irrelevance of stories is a time honored tradition here, along with grammar nazis and tired memes.
Irony: right-wingers complaining about left-wingers painting them as violent lunatics and then threatening them with violence.
No, "irony" is a pretentious sounding lefty doing his best to sound intellectually superior to other people while simultaneously failing to recognize the perfectly reasonable use of a common idiom. The "knock" in this case is the attack by Islamists on a paragon of lefty publishing. The rhetorical question involved is whether said liberals are still so obtuse that even an event that head-knocking could fail to move them from their assertion that it was the writers and artists who are to blame for their deaths, not the Islamist wackadoos who planned and carried out their murders.
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
Why were they not taken out with some kind of sleep darts instead of lead bullets?
Because "sleep darts" don't work in real life like they do in bad movies. These guys are holding hostages at gunpoint and swearing they're going to go down shooting. The cops didn't want another Sidney, where the crazy Islamist wackadoo had time (it only takes a moment, right?) to kill a hostage before being incapacitated.
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
Oh look it's 5pm. Off home go the Europeans and here come the Americans making stupid comments on Slashdot and degrading it into a braindead partisan jerkfest as usual.
American prime time: where all intellect leaves the building.
oh please post link to your magical "sleep darts", you fucking moron
The LEAST I now expect is for the relevant Muslim leaders to condemn that shit. To declare a fatwa that such behavior is un-Islam and that it is against Islam teachings.
Anything less is at the very least acceptance if not support for this behavior. And that should be enough to discuss forbidding a cult that accepts or supports what we in the western world consider the foundation of being able to live together.
And when we're done with that, let's take a closer look at that Westboro Baptist Church and whether we can get rid of those loonies too while we're at it.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
You sure about that? A few minutes with Google implies that Texas has more gun deaths per capita than New York, which seems to completely contradict your point. Actually, I see more pro-gun states in the top 10 than anti-gun states.
Actually, the strongest indicator (in my completely unscientific glance) is poverty, not gun laws. But hey, you can keep on blaming minorities, cities, and gun-control. And I suspect you will.
Kevin
... the rejection of being a part of a civilized society
Look, no matter if we are talking about the ancient Jewish texts (the Torah) or the Christian texts (the New Testaments) or the Islamic texts (the Koran) they all contain verses which are really despicable
The difference is that many Moslems today are still preferring to stick with and practice those despicable texts from their Koran, rather than choosing to live like civilized human beings with civilized mindset ; Whilst most of the Jews and the Christians have opted to become civilized
Even among many of those so-called 'moderate Moslems', they too secretly harbor the same sentiment that the Moslems are 'more superior" than the infidels; That the only useful value of the infidels is to become slaves for them, the superior Moslems
Muchas Gracias, Señor Edward Snowden !