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Samsung Launches Tizen Phone In India
puddingebola notes that Samsung's first smartphones powered by its Tizen operating system have gone on sale in India. "After plenty of speculation and an abort launch in Russia last year, Samsung has finally managed to release its first phone powered by the Tizen operating system. The Samsung Z1 is coming to India initially, where it is available to buy for 5,700 INR — that’s around $92 — from today. The Z1 is an affordable device, both in price and specs. It packs a four-inch WVGA PLS screen, and is powered by a 1.2 GHz dual-core processor and 768 MB RAM. There’s a 3.1-megapixel camera on the rear, and a limited VGA camera on the front. The phone runs version 2.3 of the Tizen operating system, and comes with 4GB of on-device storage which can be expanded by up to 64GB via a micro SD card. It supports dual SIMs, as is commonplace with devices in India."
Sure, like most consumers know what an "Operating System" is...
But they do know brand names and Android is a widely used brand name in phone advertisements.
Samsung has become an entity which has lost the ability to compete
If Samsung thinks that they can fool the Indians with this "tizen" phone, they are greatly mistaken
Price-wise this phone is more expensive than one from Lenovo, the Lenovo A316i. Spec-wise Lenovo's A316i is no way inferior to Samsung's Z1
Plus the Lenovo low cost phone runs Android, which means users get to enjoy thousands and thousands of ready-made apps
How many 'tizen-apps' are there?
Sheeeeze ........
...... and there goes the neighborhood. Android Fragmentation be dammed. We here at Samysungy want to mess things up further with our own OS with no Ecosystem to support it. ANDROID IS FREE DAMMIT! Having to even consider IOS and Apple at all is horrible enough.
Bound to be. 1.5 BILLION people can't be wrong. Unless you're from Giddeon.
Not in India. As long as it can run android apps they won't care wha the OS is.
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." - K
They know that if you have a different OS it might not run the same "apps", because you know, that whole Mac & PC incompatibility thing is fairly well known even to nearly computer illiterate grandmothers.
Samsung has put A LOT of time and energy into Tizen but Tizen is OSS from the ground up. Google gave us a mostly OSS Android experience but OEM's don't like being beholden to them in many areas. Especially areas where Google is competing against them. Tizen is very appealing in that regard and why so many OEM's are looking at Tizen in their devices. Look for all manner or smart devices to start running Tizen in the near future.
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." - K
Not in India. As long as it can run android apps they won't care wha the OS is.
RTA:
“Both Android and iOS apps must have their codes re-written to run on Tizen devices,” a spokesperson said.
So, it depends if and how fast the App developers want to convert their code.
I won't by a samsung phone ever again. They don't update and just shit on the customers... God-thank's to alternatives, at least there are some because of sales unites of samsung phones. Poor people who bought unpopular phones... I like my nexus 5 i bought 2nd hand (nexus 6 is too expensive).
Uh...you go RTFA linked to. No modification necessary. Just install ACL app and install apps.
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." - K
I don't think a lot of people "want" Android. Just its apps. Most other OS's will get better battery life than Android. They won't lag, won't run in a VM, etc.
Uh...you go RTFA linked to. No modification necessary. Just install ACL app and install apps.
Users would be crazy to do such.
Instead of looking at raw sales based on number of units or gross receipts, if one starts breaking down the market by amount of profit generated, iPhone is well ensconced. Top end Samsung comes in next.
Samsung should be careful to distinguish the models and handsets very obviously and visibly. If the brand acquires an association as the "phone for the unwashed masses", the high profit segment will just disappear. My nephew visiting me derisively called the old flip phone "a servant [maid] 's phone". Other nephews and nieces make sure their clothes and accessories will not be mistaken for a cheap imitation. It is a very class conscious society. And the training starts early. Almost all their buying decision seems to be driven by "what my peers will think if they catch me using this product?".
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
As far as India goes, the brand names that matter are the manufacturers - be it Samsung, LG, Sony, Karbonn, Micromaxx, previously Nokia and to a niche, Apple. Android or Windows Phone isn't what sells.
Android is not free, it comes with all kinds of baggage to feed Googles business model. At least if you want to use any of the higher end bits that make it useful at least.
if you think tizen style javascript apps are better than android vm apps then.. eh.
whatever. in design tizen isn't that different from any other linux + app layer designs.
it's just whatever shit you have installed on the android, nokia x(yes an android based phone) gets a week+ of standby(and about same specs as the samsung tizen and about the same price and has been out for a year. not for long of course since ms killed it and never released the x in euro/usa).
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
* Users want Android because there fell confident that this allow them to be at the same level as others users.
* Developers want Android because there fell confident that this allow them to spread there application to the maximum of users.
* Manufacturers want Android because users and developers want Android.
Now the drawback of this situation is that Google take too much control of Android. Most users and developers don't have any problem with that, but this is certainly not the case for many manufacturers that basically only have there brand name and distributors channels to compete, as the mid range hardware tend to normalize across all this industry.
Tizen is actually only an OS. The interesting experiment is to use Open Mobile’s ACL Technology to add the Android market on the Tizen OS. This is a long move. If successful, it can split the Android dominance into two parts: the Android apps market and the Android OS. Google will probably keep control of the Android OS, but there will be an increasing pressure to take some control of the Android apps market from Google.
It will be interesting to see how Google will react to "OpenMobile World Wide" in case there product start to gain a substantial market share. Will be open or evil ?
Uh...you go RTFA linked to. No modification necessary. Just install ACL app and install apps.
I read that. Then I read the bit that said that it wasn't true:
"Samsung did, however, confirm that [the article about ACL] suggesting that the Z1 could use Android apps [was] incorrect."