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Pope Francis: There Are Limits To Freedom of Expression

hcs_$reboot writes Pope Francis spoke about the Paris terror attacks, defending free speech as not only a fundamental human right but a duty to speak one's mind for the sake of the common good. But he added there were limits. While Francis insisted that it was an "aberration" to kill in the name of God and said religion can never be used to justify violence, he said there was a limit to free speech when it concerned offending someone's religious beliefs. By way of example, he referred to a friend: "if someone says a curse word against my mother, he can expect a punch". "There are so many people who speak badly about religions or other religions, who make fun of them, who make a game out of the religions of others," he said. "They are provocateurs."

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  1. hmm by Blymie · · Score: 4, Informative

    In my country, that punch would result in an assault charge.

    And no, it would not matter what I said, period.

    Not saying this is good or bad, just simply that it is...

  2. Fuck the pope. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Sorry, but your crazy make believe bullshit is not inherently deserving of any kind of respect and is open to all insult and free expression. This goes for all religions. In fact, this goes for all everything.

  3. Re:Pope Francis - fuck your mother by dywolf · · Score: 5, Informative

    Nothing you just said actually reflects the views of Pope Francis.

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  4. Re:Pope Francis - fuck your mother by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Futue te mater et futete!

  5. Re:Pope Francis - fuck your mother by smooth+wombat · · Score: 5, Informative

    Considering Pope Francis will never allow women priests or stop using the stupid, "Love the sinner, hate the sin" when referring to gays, the AC is correct.

    Further, we know for a fact the Catholic Church has been covering up pedophiles within its ranks. While Francis might be making an effort to combat this, that doesn't change the fact of what has been happening (and is most likely continuing to occur).

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  6. Re:throwing punches by thrich81 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Bad example -- Dr. Aldrin was not just provoked by the dumbass moon hoaxer saying something offensive, but the hoaxer was following Aldrin and his daughter around, harassing them after he was asked to leave the couple alone. Aldrin had a plausible defense that he and his daughter felt physically threatened.
    "Beverly Hills police investigated the incident, which occurred 9 September, but said that the charges were dropped after witnesses came forward to say that Mr Sibrel had aggressively poked Mr Aldrin with the Bible before he was punched." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/ame...

  7. Re:Therefore justifying the killing of others by coinreturn · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Muslim religion is offended by depictions of Muhammad.

    Actually, no. That is something made up by Muslim radicals. Nothing in the Koran about it.

  8. Re:Pope Francis - fuck your mother by gnasher719 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Fuck you retarded asshole.

    And like every Slashdotter, you couldn't be bothered to look at the actual article, which would have shown a blatant misquote. He never said ""if someone says a curse word against my mother, he can expect a punch". Here is what the article actually said:

    By way of example, he referred to Alberto Gasparri, who organizes papal trips and was standing by his side aboard the papal plane. "If my good friend Dr. Gasparri says a curse word against my mother, he can expect a punch," Francis said jokingly, throwing a pretend punch his way.

  9. Re:Pope Francis - fuck your mother by zapadnik · · Score: 3, Informative

    They shouldn't kill you for insulting him, and most would never do so, but some of them are going to because they are deranged and you pressed their "Crazy" button.

    FALSE. Insulting the Prophet is punishable by death in Sharia (Islamic Law) - note, this is a greater penalty than insulting Allah (aka Dushara, the chief god of the Nabateans, see Koran 53:19-20). Charlie Hebdo was killed because Islam commands they must be killed. Your assertion that someone "pressed their Crazy button" is false. They were merely carrying out the commandments of Islam, and doing exactly what Mohammed did to his critics - slaughter them. The ignorance on Slashdot about Islamic doctrines is truly amazing, and the falsehoods and false equivalences Slashdotters ascribe to Islam is simply bizarre. Islam is tge most evil and deceptive totalitarian political ideology that has ever blighted this planet (worse than National Socialism and Communist Socialism, although sharing elements of both). Stop making excuses for jihadis - they do it because Islam commands them to and unlike most Muslims, they actually listen tp Islam.

    The "freedom of expression" is a concept that is not divorced from reality. If you believe that such a thing is absolute, you need to be prepared to fight for it, because not everyone believes the same thing.

    Clearly you do not understand Freedom of Speech at all - which is why you defend those who oppose it. Freedom of Speech specifically exists for speech that causes offense. There is no need for Freedom of Speech for nice speech about rainbows and unicorns and stuff everyone agrees on. Free Speech is about all the nasty bits that offend you or others - and is necessary so that those in power and their falsehoods can be challenged. Do you not understand this? Furthermore, the Free Speech problem against the man-made ideology called "Islam" but the fact that Western Governments do not defend their citizens practicing Free Speech (because Western Governments do not actually believe in Free Speech).

    Free Speech must be absolute. Otherwise you get into massive moral difficulties as to who gets to censor? who decides what is "offensive" or not? who appoints the "censors" (which is the most powerful position in a supposedly Free Society). It is not the Government's place to censor my thoughts or jokes or opinions. Only closest totalitarians cannot see this truth - which makes such people very dangerous, and very easily led by the sociopaths and demagogues that infest the 'political class'.

    Why not stand up for Free Speech instead of providing a smokescreen for totalitarians (which Islamicists are but one) ? that is the moral and evolved thing to do !