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The Anthropocene Epoch Began With 1945 Atomic Bomb Test, Scientists Say

hypnosec writes: Scientists have proposed July 16, 1945 as the beginning of the Anthropocene Epoch. That was the day of the first nuclear detonation test. They say "the Great Acceleration" — the period when human activities started having a significant impact on Earth – are a good mark of the beginning of the new epoch. Since then, there has been a significant increase in population, environmental upheaval on land and oceans, and global connectivity. The group says in their article (abstract), "The beginning of the nuclear age ... marks the historic turning point when humans first accessed an enormous new energy source – and is also a time level that can be effectively tracked within geological strata, using a variety of geological clues."

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  1. Re:Academic wankery at its finest by ganjadude · · Score: 2

    does it really matter? no, not to us, not right now. but generations from now it will be nice for the historians to have a name to go with the time frame (not like they wouldnt simply make one up as we have done with all other periods in time to date)

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  2. Re:Academic wankery at its finest by tyggna · · Score: 2

    All science is either mathematics, or stamp collecting. This would be printing a stamp and adding it to a collection of already printed stamps.

  3. I don't think so. by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We had access to coal and oil for a lot longer than nuclear, and fossil fuels today still represent 10x as much energy generated/used as nuclear. linky

    The figures are from 2008 - before fukushima, and nuclear plant construction is going nowhere, while China produces 1 new coal plant every day.

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    1. Re:I don't think so. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes, but they're talking about detectability of a time marker in Earth history. Post-1945 or so it is easy to detect radioisotopes in sediments being deposited world-wide.

    2. Re:I don't think so. by Immerman · · Score: 2

      True, but usage has been accelerating exponentially, and there's not really any firm date you can point to and say "this is where it started getting bad".

      If the first atomic blast lines up with the rough time period when we started having a dramatic effect on a planetary scale, and offers a convenient global geologic marker in global radioisotope deposits, then it seems like as good a boundary point as any, and better than most.

      That said, I've seen some good arguments that global desertification over the last 5-10,000 years can be laid at the feet of our ancestors' hunting, agriculture, and animal husbandry practices. Certainly there's plenty of evidence that there's been a massive extinction event over that time period, with fairly solid evidence that humans were directly responsible for at least a large portion of it. Seems to me that those would both qualify as " a significant impact on Earth"

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    3. Re:I don't think so. by shadowrat · · Score: 3, Informative

      i get a statistic that in 2013, china produced approximately 1 coal plant a week.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C...

      unless we are talking about may 17, 2013. for that time period, china did apparently produce 1 coal plant a day.

      i don't even know why i feel the need to argue this though. it has little to do with the topic. i just can't fight the urge to look up statistics. i think there's something wrong with me.

    4. Re:I don't think so. by Dahamma · · Score: 2

      I don't disagree that coal has had more effect than nuclear on the environment, but your "fact" is completely wrong. Kind of sad, since if you had just kept to the facts it would have been a decent point.

      And yes, the top 3 Google results (as per your suggestion) say you are wrong. Feel free to find a citation that contradicts your suggestion, though.

    5. Re:I don't think so. by radl33t · · Score: 2

      This is a great off topic addition to the thread. One I try to add as frequently as possible. That often cited statistic is from a brief period many years ago. China's coal construction has seriously tapered off in the last several years... in favor of wind and solar. China's coal consumption and bogus factoids surrounding it are often used to justify all sorts of ignorant nonsense regarding GHG, grid modernization, economic competition etc.

      The real story is that China, not the US has driven down the cost of solar to 1.11 $/kWh installed. Cheaper than all other forms of energy on earth, including imported coal. The only remaining barriers have nothing to do with the technical or economic costs of solar energy. Its all about waiting for the institutional inertia to catch up with the pace of change.

  4. Broken Style by 31415926535897 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Anthropocene Epoch ended when the Bad Slashdot Style Epoch began after the following style code was introduced:

    #comments { clear:both; display:block; position:relative; padding: 0; margin: 0 0 0 122px; padding-right: 1.5em;z-index:1;}

    Get rid of the 122px left margin--it's wasting a lot of space.

    1. Re:Broken Style by bloodhawk · · Score: 2

      They are trying to move you to the broken look and feel of the beta pixel by pixel.

    2. Re:Broken Style by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hey, that margin is where I put my drink.

    3. Re:Broken Style by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 2

      The Anthropocene Epoch ended when the Bad Slashdot Style Epoch began after the following style code was introduced:

      #comments { clear:both; display:block; position:relative; padding: 0; margin: 0 0 0 122px; padding-right: 1.5em;z-index:1;}

      Get rid of the 122px left margin--it's wasting a lot of space.

      Thank you I thought it was one of my script blockers acting up.

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  5. Re:Academic wankery at its finest by mspohr · · Score: 5, Informative

    Also... from TFAbstract, they chose the date because all of the nuclear explosions have left a clear marker of radioisotopes which can be easily located when tracing the geological record.

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  6. Re:Industrial Revolution by blue9steel · · Score: 2

    I'd mark it at the transition from when things were mostly muscle powered, and thus limited in total energy expenditure by food production, to when most things were powered by other fuel sources. Once that switch occurred our ability to radically reshape the environment leapt upwards by several orders of magnitude.

  7. Industrial Revolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The nuclear blasts produce more obvious changes in the geological strata than the coal and other industrial changes do, so it's easier to trace. When looking at geological timeframes, the 200 years or so difference is a blink of an eye. It's not especially useful now while both periods are so recent, but it will become more useful as time goes on.

  8. Re: Academic wankery at its finest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You almost have a point but that if it's only important for future scientists, let them define it based on better informed notions. I'm positive that the radio or some industrial landmark would make more sense. E.g. first mass pollutions, which do have environmental impact. Medieval deforestation of Europe may be a candidate too.

  9. Re:Rubbish, and reversed by Ionized · · Score: 4, Informative

    the detonation of the atomic bomb is a perfectly reasonable way to mark the beginning of a new epoch, because there is a very real and easily identifiable geologic marker for that event (radioactive isotopes & plastic in the topsoil.) if millions of years from now aliens discovered our planet and looked through geological data, and wanted to classify periods based on that data, it's a safe bet that the sudden proliferation of radioactive isotopes and appearance of an entirely new substance (plastic) would be something that they noticed.

    as for the necessity of defining a new epoch - would you deny that humans have profoundly changed the planet? no value judgements being made here, just straight facts, the planet is WAY FUCKING DIFFERENT than it was 1000 years ago due to human population explosions and human construction. also, lots of newly-extinct species.

    but, i at least agree with you about nuclear power being the solution to a lot of our problems, if we would stop being such pussies about it. that has nothing to do with the topic at hand, though.

  10. Re:Academic wankery at its finest by mythosaz · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yeah, it'd be like using Latin for scientific terminology today.

  11. Re:Anthropocene Epoch. by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 4, Funny

    You're thinking of the Spankocene Era.

  12. Re:Academic wankery at its finest by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Funny

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  13. Re:Academic wankery at its finest by CaptainDork · · Score: 3, Funny

    And like my knees.

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  14. Re:Academic wankery at its finest by samkass · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Also... from TFAbstract, they chose the date because all of the nuclear explosions have left a clear marker of radioisotopes which can be easily located when tracing the geological record.

    And importantly, this will be true globally. This seems to be what most posters here seem to be ignoring... A hundred thousand years from now you'll probably be able to dig into the ground and identify this epoch anywhere on Earth where the rocks are old enough by the distinct atomic decay signature, among other things.

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  15. Time to reset the calendar by mysidia · · Score: 2

    Today is January 16, 69 AE (Anthropocene Era)

    Someone born in 1946 CE will now be referred to as: Born in 1 AE

    Someone born in 1945 CE will now be referred to as "Born in 0 AE"; the year of the Anthropocene Epoch.

    1944 CE will now be referred to as "1 BAE"; 1 year before the Anthropocene Epoch, etc

    In this manner, every year renumbered.

    And of course, tomorrow will be 1/17/69.

  16. Re:Academic wankery at its finest by Scarletdown · · Score: 2

    Now, if we described stuff by it's percentages of fire earth air and water and spirit...

    shouldn't that be fire, earth, air, water, and Leeloo?

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  17. Re:Academic wankery at its finest by flyingsquid · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's a bit like the iridium spike at the K-T boundary in that the use of nuclear weapons is an event that will have a worldwide signal, in fact it wouldn't surprise me if they got the idea from the asteroid impact. This would be a bit ironic because Alvarez, the guy who discovered the impact, was a Manhattan project alum who actually worked on the explosive lenses and triggers used in the Trinity implosion bomb. The issue with using Trinity is that from a biological/evolutionary standpoint its not that meaningful an event. The Chicxulub impact is a huge deal, it's the driver of the biggest mass extinction in 250 million years. The Trinity test has the advantage of being easy to measure but nuclear weapons have had pretty much zero effect on the biosphere. In fact, primitive hunter-gatherers running around with fire and spears have a vastly larger effect than nuclear bombs. After Homo sapiens moves out of Africa into Australia, Europe, and the Americas, we see massive dieoffs of the megafauna which, combined with the use of fire to alter the landscape, dramatically alter the fauna and vegetation on a continental scale. From an evolutionary standpoint, these migrations are important; they mark the first time the species began to alter the world on the level of entire ecosystems. So I'd argue that the migration of Homo sapiens out of Africa would be the defining event, but obviously that's kind of hard to date.

  18. Re:Steel, E = mc^2" by David Bodanis, and Space... by rubycodez · · Score: 3, Informative

    nice try but coal from the industrial age also threw heavy radioisotopes into the air, starting centuries ago

  19. Re:Academic wankery at its finest by khallow · · Score: 2

    we use latin words to be unambiguous

    We could use plenty of other schemes to get the same effect without having to use a dead language. The grand parent's point remains.

  20. Re:Academic wankery at its finest by Sesostris+III · · Score: 2

    Nobody speaks it.

    I don't know. I think it still gets used on an ad hoc basis.

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