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The Current State of Linux Video Editing

An anonymous reader writes: The VFX industry has for most of the last 30 years been reliant on Macs and Windows machines for video editing, primarily because all of the Linux-based FOSS tools have been less than great. This is a shame, because all of the best 3D and 2D tools, other than video, are entrenched in the Linux environment and perform best there. The lack of decent video editing tools on Linux prevents every VFX studio from becoming a Linux-only shop. That being said, there are some strides being made to bridge this gap. What setup do you use? What's still missing?

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  1. Blender FTW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Blender, a 3D animation suite, and a powerful video editor. Have not looked back since using Blender. Also comes with a python console, where really powerful scriptability can be reached. What else could one need?

    1. Re:Blender FTW by andyhhp · · Score: 5, Funny

      Now all I need is a 10 button mouse and an interface reference!

  2. Kdenlive is getting stable by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Funny

    Tried it again recently, and I was able to add a four-minute video from my phone, cut out a chunk, add a transition and a fade-in and fade out, and took me less than half an hour.

    It's true, that would have taken me five minutes in iMovie in 2000, but at least it didn't crash, which is what happened every previous time I've tried that.

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    1. Re:Kdenlive is getting stable by ohnocitizen · · Score: 4, Informative

      Second this, kdenlive is decent for quick edit jobs. I can line up multiple videos and substitute or augment audio when I need to. So shooting some footage and adding a soundtrack is doable. Its been super stable for me for a while now - but as with all software your mileage may vary significantly there. It does lack the easy and polish if iMovie and more professional options. I hope it gets there.

  3. Maybe its time for a change. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe its time to try something new, can SystemD help with this?

  4. Kdenlive by taniwha · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've found kdenlive is great - I've had to make a couple of small videos recently,it was a breeze with a couple of minor hiccups

    1. As mentioned figuring out how to do transitions was hard - they're there, just hard to figure out

    2. Ubuntu .... grrr .... their last distro has broken libraries (libav+melt - broken for lots of video editors, not just kdenlive) you can happily edit away but when you try and make the final stream, no audio -apparently all they need to do is to rebuild their binaries

  5. Article confuses "on Linux" with FOSS by KugelKurt · · Score: 5, Informative

    LightWorks is not FOSS. It works on Linux but so do Maya, Bitwig, RenderMan, and so on. Neither of those is FOSS.
    There is professional software available for Linux in this market but just like OSX and Windows you have to pay for them.

  6. Re:Not to mention Audio Editing by KugelKurt · · Score: 5, Informative

    Audacity is a simple wave editor, not a Digital Audio Workstation (DAW).
    Audacity's direct competition are GoldWave, Nero Wave Editor, and so on and Audacity blows them all out of the water in areas that are objectively measurable, i.e. file compatibility, encoding performance, etc.

    But comparing Audacity to a DAW is unfair. They are just different things with just some overlapping feature set – kinda like comparing a pure text editor with a word processor.

  7. Blender by The+Evil+Atheist · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Interesting conclusion they come to with Blender. They have been making rapid improvements and enhancements to both features and interface. I've dabbled in Blender before and after the 2.5 redesign and while I didn't actually find the old Blender difficult to use (it took me 30 mins of dedicated time), the new one is better still. BUT I haven't used the video editing stuff, though I do know it was there. Must give it a try next time.

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  8. SGI by sunderland56 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The VFX industry has for most of the last 30 years been reliant on Macs and Windows machines for video editing

    You seem to have skipped SGI hardware, and software like Discreet Flame/Fire, which defined both video and film editing for a decade.

  9. No video on Linux by theheadlessrabbit · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Linux has the super low end and the super high end well covered, but it has a few serious areas that are lacking.

    On the low end, OpenShot definitely beats windows movie maker, and it's about as good as iMovie, so for vloggers, it's all you'd need.

    On the high end, Lightworks and Cinelerra are both powerful, comparable to Avid, but less stable, and the learning curve is steep; too steep for an amateur who is just messing around to master quickly.

    But for a start up or mid-range video production company, neither option is acceptable. OpenShot is simply not good enough for their needs, and the high end is too much, the training costs for employees would be significant. There is no Sony Vegas, Adobe Premiere, or Final Cut 7 for the mid range companies to work with.

    I've also had trouble rendering to h.264 in Linux. The files are sometimes corrupt - refusing to load in anything other than VLC, sometimes lacking features, like progressive upload that is youtube friendly, or just plain poor quality - not all renderers are made equal, some look better at a given bit rate than others.

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  10. Re:Attitudes by KugelKurt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Things won't improve until two things are addressed. First FOSS devs drop the attitude that "It crashes sometimes" is an acceptable condition for software intended for productive work.

    Really? That's the attitude of FOSS developers? I call that BS.
    I think chances are spoiled users of proprietary software mistake being able to communicate directly with the developers with entitlement that a developer has to jump directly when a user discovers a bug.
    No, bugs are handled with different priorities and just because a bug annoys you the most, it is not necessarily the most crucial bug to fix first.

    If you want bug priorities to change, just announce to give 100 bucks to whoever fixes a bug you run into.
    Bug bounty programs are quite common in FOSS.

  11. I second this: blender's VSE mode is great by ciaran2014 · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's daunting for the first few days (yep, days) but you'll get used to the blender workflow.

    To edit video you need to go into VSE mode. You have to learn it, you can't just brute force and guess your way around, so go watch a bunch of tutorial videos (search: blender vse or blender visual sequence editor) and you'll be flying.

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  12. Re:Attitudes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What businesses care about:

    1. 1. Making money
    2. 2. Making money
    3. 3. Plausible deniability
    4. 4. Charging customers to fix bugs
    5. 5. In order to make more money
  13. Kdenlive, SlowMoVideo, Pencil by captainpanic · · Score: 4, Informative

    Kdenlive
    Kdenlive is great if you just want to edit some holiday movie or pictures. In my experience, the resulting movies look good, and any ugly problems can be associated with the limitations on my camera, not Kdenlive. It's an easy user interface, and it only gets complicated when you want to do more advanced effects (the complexity comes from the number of options, meaning you have to go through some menus and try out a bunch of things). Btw, last time I used Kdenlive, I used Linunx Mint 16, and had no problems with audio (or any problem in general). Also, the crashes that I used to experience in 2012 seem to be gone completely.

    SlowMoVideo
    I also used SlowMoVideo, to make slow motion videos and to speed up videos (which I then put into Kdenlive to become part of a larger project). It works, although its user interface has a rather steep learning curve (not the most intuitive interface). It lacks a simple method to just slow down or speed up a movie by a factor two. It appears that the makers expect people to want to use the full range of options all the time. (I realize that asking for less options will upset some people... sorry).

    Pencil
    Finally, I also used Pencil to make some animations. In my case, quality was poor, but that says a lot about my drawing skills, and little about the program. What I missed a lot was an easy method to stitch a series of pictures together into a movie. I think that Pencil claims to provide one, but I never got it to work. In desperation, I used some awful command-line tool and it took me ages to figure out the exact code to type in to get the desired effect.