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First Look At Dell Venue 8 7000 and Intel's Moorefield Atom Performance

MojoKid writes: Dell has been strategically setting-up their new Venue 8 7000 tablet for cameo appearances over the past few months, starting back at Intel Developer's Forum in September of last year, then again at Dell World in November and at CES 2015. What's interesting about this new device, in addition to Intel's RealSense camera is its Atom Z3580 quad-core processor, which is based on Intel's latest Moorefield architecture. Moorefield builds upon Intel's Cherrytrail Atom feature set and offers two additional CPU cores with up to a 2.3GHz clock speed, an enhanced PowerVR 6430 GPU and support of faster LPDDR3-1600 memory. Moorefield is also built for Intel's XMM 7260 LTE modem platform, which supports carrier aggregation. Overall, Moorefield looks solid, with performance ahead of a Snapdragon 801 but not quite able to catch the 805, NVIDIA Tegra K1 or Apple's A8X in terms of graphics throughput. On the CPU side, Intel's beefed-up quad-core Atom variant shows well.

22 comments

  1. Windows 8 is terrible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only losers use Windows 8. Start Menu till the end of time!

    1. Re:Windows 8 is terrible by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      well this is android... making the benches somewhat relevant.

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      world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
    2. Re:Windows 8 is terrible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But it comes with "the latest Android 4.4 KitKat® operating system" even from the shop, so quite likely the OS will not be upgraded ever after. Why would anyone buy a $400 device, which is obsolete even at time of purchase and has a built in insecurity? What kind of uninstallable crapware does it have?

    3. Re:Windows 8 is terrible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I own a dell Venue 7 and a Venue 8. Both came initially with 4.2.2 and android is nearly vanilla. They bundled a pocketcloud only, as far as I know. Shortly after we received an update to 4.3, then 4.4 a short while after it came out (probably easier to update when android is vanilla). I'm not holding my breath for Lollipop (though it'd be nice), but for a low end device that's been out a while, It's not bad at all.

      I doubt they will stop supporting their 400$ tablet so quickly.

    4. Re:Windows 8 is terrible by CaptSlaq · · Score: 1

      But it comes with "the latest Android 4.4 KitKat® operating system" even from the shop, so quite likely the OS will not be upgraded ever after. Why would anyone buy a $400 device, which is obsolete even at time of purchase and has a built in insecurity? What kind of uninstallable crapware does it have?

      Lollipop by some reports is still somewhat broken, despite being in release.

    5. Re:Windows 8 is terrible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Only losers give a shit what OS other people use.

  2. It is NOT Cherrytrail by IYagami · · Score: 2

    According to Intel's official page ( http://ark.intel.com/es-es/pro... ), the Intel® Atom Processor Z3580 is based on a 22 nm lithography.

    Intel Cherrytrail processors are made on a 14nm process

    1. Re:It is NOT Cherrytrail by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

      Talk about a disappointing story. The banchmark is crappy : Antutu, and that's all, CPU wise. That is a preview of a review, though : the article is unfinished. I prefer when slashdot is late.

    2. Re:It is NOT Cherrytrail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Talk about a disappointing story. The banchmark is crappy : Antutu, and that's all, CPU wise. That is a preview of a review, though : the article is unfinished. I prefer when slashdot is late.

      That's ok, you'll get a misleading, incorrect summary in a week too.

  3. crap by Dale512 · · Score: 1

    We use the Venue at work for our field construction people (since they have 3G sim cards). They are complete crap. At my local division we had a 22% fail rate during the initial rollout. Of the replacements we received two of those had to go back as well. The cases that are supposed to protect these can't be used along with the stand alone keyboard. Dell also had to send a full set of replacement keyboards since half the ones we received were broken out of the box. The driver for the 3G stuff was equally problematic. We finally got everything up and working after several weeks of back and forth. Operationally they are ok; not great, but ok.

    1. Re:crap by sribe · · Score: 1

      They are complete crap.

      Why did your company choose them?

    2. Re:crap by Dale512 · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing someone at Dell wined and dined someone high up in the IT decision making chain. You know, the people that don't actually have to deal with the decisions they make.

    3. Re:crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We use the Venue at work for our field construction people (since they have 3G sim cards)

      Why did your company choose them?

      Reading comprehension, anyone?

  4. powervr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you lost me at powervr.

    1. Re:powervr by macromorgan · · Score: 2

      you lost me at powervr.

      Quoted for truth. I love the flexibility of Intel's in-house graphics, in that they support Linux and Windows both quite well. Using PowerVR takes a lot of flexibility off the table. I suppose if your plan is to always run the manufacturer operating system and do nothing else with the tablet, this is fine. But that's never my plan when it comes to the hardware I buy.

  5. OK, performance, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It looks on Par, but the Android Ecosystem is on ARM, and as such, Android native to do gaming or high end graphics, like video editing will require a translation or emulation layer to IA64.. Intel needs to shatter ARM performance to be competitive, unless they're going for just the low end.

  6. Android on Intel is Unstable Crap, or not? by bryanbrunton · · Score: 1

    The Dell Venue 7 on amazon goes for $100. There isn't a comparable tablet from a major vendor with the specs of the Venue 7 that approaches $100.

    I nearly ordered one, and then I read the reviews on amazon, and the reviews are scathing. Apparently, this product has real stability issues potentially related to the upgrade to KitKat, or related to only 1 gb of RAM (which seems odd because there are a multiple of tablets (see iPad) that function well with only 1 gb of RAM).

    Is this an Android on Intel problem?

    1. Re:Android on Intel is Unstable Crap, or not? by Solandri · · Score: 1

      Apparently, this product has real stability issues potentially related to the upgrade to KitKat, or related to only 1 gb of RAM (which seems odd because there are a multiple of tablets (see iPad) that function well with only 1 gb of RAM).

      Is this an Android on Intel problem?

      Until last year, I used an old Galaxy S (yes, the first one) with just 512 MB of RAM. I upgraded it to Jelly Bean, then Kit Kat via Cyanogenmod. Never had any stability issues. The only problem was that about 400 MB of the RAM gets used by the OS, so Android starts playing whack-a-mole killing background tasks after you use more than about 3 apps. (Android kills task to free up memory, task says "wait I need to be running" and restarts itself, Android kills different task, that task says "wait I need to be running" and restarts itself, repeat. and everything bogs down.)

      The Asus MeMo Pad 7 has very similar specs to the Dell Venue 7 (Intel CPU, 1 GB RAM, Android 4.4), and I don't see reviewers complaining about stability. So maybe a Dell problem?

  7. IDF 2014 freebie coupon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does anyone know of someone who attended IDF getting their freebie? They gave away coupons good for a free v8/7k, but none of the guys that I know have received one. They were supposed to be delivered before the holidays. Then an email said early January, but there's still no sign.

    1. Re:IDF 2014 freebie coupon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I too attended IDF and received a free coupon. Have not heard anything from Dell after the December 9th email. This is from their email "We’re taking some time to put the finishing touches on the tablet, and you’ll be one of the first to receive a Venue 8 7000 when the product is available in January. "
      Jan 27th - still no tablet.

    2. Re:IDF 2014 freebie coupon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I found this on the Dell site:

      http://en.community.dell.com/dell-blogs/direct2dell/b/direct2dell/archive/2015/01/09/venue-8-7000-innovates-with-software-as-well-as-hardware/#comments

      It appears they have not forgotten us ;-)

    3. Re:IDF 2014 freebie coupon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good News - I just heard from a "dell insider" that orders are being entered this week for the IDF coupons and the tablets should ship next week.