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New Nicotine Vaccine May Succeed Where Others Have Failed
Zothecula writes: If you're a smoker who's trying to quit, you may recall hearing about vaccines designed to cause the body's immune system to treat nicotine like a foreign invader, producing antibodies that trap and remove it before it's able to reach receptors in the brain. It's a fascinating idea, but according to scientists at California's Scripps Research Institute, a recent high-profile attempt had a major flaw. They claim to have overcome that problem (abstract), and are now developing a vaccine of their own that they believe should be more effective.
You'd still be an addict, just one who could never satisfy his cravings. This sounds more like some sort of torture that an aid to quitting.
Your thought process is scary at a minimum. It does give some insight into how horrible ideas take root once you demonize something/someone though.
While were at it, we shouldn't support programs like weight watchers, or help people get started on exercise routines. Everyone should figure everything out for themselves without any outside aid whatsoever. Accepting help from other people or tools is a sign of weakness.
Well, if you walked up to a smoker and vaccinated them like this ... they would still be addicted, and have no way of alleviating that.
As an ex-smoker, had someone done that to me, I might have had to kill them
Quitting smoking is hard, is sucks, and it takes months if not years for the craving to go away. The smallest thing can make you go back to wanting one.
The ability to get nicotine from an alternate source than smoking is not something to be underestimated, and for many of us is the only way we can really quit.
I rank this about as good as locking someone in a room and waiting for the screaming to stop. It's simply doing nothing at all about the fact that your brain and body are still going "where is it? how about now? can we have some? what about now? Why isn't there any? How do we get some? WHY can't we have any?"
A smoker on forced cold turkey quitting is NOT a person you want to be around.
Lost at C:>. Found at C.
How has that worked out for 'the war on drugs'?
I personally do not smoke. I do not care for it. Either for or against. What I do care for is the hostile attitude most people take upon themselves to regulate others around them. I do not tolerate bullies. That is not freedom. That is being a jackass.
The mental gymnastics some people will go thru to make it look like they 'are saving the world' is quite a sight to behold.
Why not just admit the *real* reason. You do not like the smoke smell. So you will do/say *anything* to get it away from you. A smoker will usually be quite nice about it too. "dude can you put that out I do not like the smell". If they dont you just found another jackass (they are not hard to find). You enjoy the power trip it gives you that you control the actions of someone else.
Some of the most interesting new research in psychiatry is the positive effects of nicotine on sufferers of schizophrenia. It is one of the few thinghs that can treat the negative symptoms of the disease and it is the only one that has no nasty side effects (as long as the delivery mechanism isn't smoking).
The vaccine sounds like a really bad idea.
Nicotine is one of the most addictive substances, but as far as the damage caused from just nicotine vs smoking a cigarette there is a vast difference. While amazingly addictive the effects of the drug are not too different than caffeine in some aspects. I believe the bogeyman reference was to how many people assume nicotine causes cancer and all the things that cigarettes cause, where people who have done a little research know that is the tar, smoke and other chemicals not the nicotine. I am not saying nicotine is good for people by any means, but there isn't much of a comparison between it and smoking is all.
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You clearly didn't understand what I said.
People should be free to do what they want and we typically don't demonise them.
UNTIL they do something which has an effect on others in society. e.g. DUI.
If you want to drink yourself into misery, gamble away your life savings, and smoke yourself into a cancerous death then more power to you.
Just don't affect the people around you. That's the problem most smokers don't seem to get. Just because you like smoking doesn't mean everyone else in the restaurant should be subjected to it. Much like DUI. If you like being in a drunken stupor do it where no one else is affected by it.
I'm not focusing on a terrible smoker doing things I don't like. I'm focusing on a terrible smoker negatively affecting my health by being in their vicinity.