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Winklevoss Twins Plan Regulated Bitcoin Exchange

itwbennett writes They of the square jaws and famous dispute with Mark Zuckerberg over the origins of Facebook, are also believed to be among the largest holders of Bitcoin in the world. Now they want to launch a regulated Bitcoin exchange—named Gemini, of course. To bolster confidence, they said they have formed a relationship with a chartered bank in the state of New York. "This means that your money will never leave the country," the twins wrote in a blog post. "It also means that U.S. dollars on Gemini will be eligible for FDIC insurance and held by a U.S.-regulated bank.

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  1. so many problems with this idea by ihtoit · · Score: 4, Insightful

    not least of which, allowing an organisation that is answerable to none but the United States Supreme Court to regulate a virtual currency that is in direct competition with its own pet, the Almighty Dollar.

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    1. Re:so many problems with this idea by Baron_Yam · · Score: 3, Insightful

      >a virtual currency that is in direct competition with its own pet, the Almighty Dollar.

      This is what Bitcoin proponents would have you believe, but there is no competition at present, and the flaws inherent in the protocol mean there never will be.

      Perhaps some other future crypto will be a competitor, but all Bitcoin does is spawn scams or payment gateways that evolve into PayPal equivalents (once they're big enough they cut Bitcoin out of the loop).

    2. Re:so many problems with this idea by beheaderaswp · · Score: 3, Informative

      not least of which, allowing an organisation that is answerable to none but the United States Supreme Court to regulate a virtual currency that is in direct competition with its own pet, the Almighty Dollar.

      Right... because allowing a random guy in Asia to regulate the exchange worked out great?

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    3. Re:so many problems with this idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      but all Bitcoin does is spawn scams or payment gateways that evolve into PayPal equivalents (once they're big enough they cut Bitcoin out of the loop).

      Example of a gateway which spawned from Bitcoin and no longer supports Bitcoin?

    4. Re:so many problems with this idea by DerekLyons · · Score: 2

      allowing an organisation that is answerable to none but the United States Supreme Court to regulate a virtual currency that is in direct competition with its own pet, the Almighty Dollar.

      As I've said many times before - so long as you follow a few very simple rules and you pay your taxes in dollars, the US Goverment doesn't care if you conduct your daily business in dollars, Bitcoins, or jars of pickled hamster poop. They whole idea of "competition" has been created out of whole cloth by the Bitcoin Tinfoil Hat Society. It's an ego trip thing, if you're being persecuted, you're obviously Important and Sticking It To The Man. That The Man has pretty consistently ignored them is nothing short of infuriating to these small minded ignoramuses. (Going after criminals who use Bitcoin is *not* the same thing as going after Bitcoin, no matter what said Tinfoil Society tries to tell you.)

  2. seizure-ready by mabu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It also means when the time comes for the traditional banking institutions to lobby the authorities to seize all the assets of this "illegal currency", they can easily do so.

  3. Tech world by amightywind · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Are there 2 people who have less to offer the tech world than the Winklevi?

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  4. Nobody should trust these scammers by gavron · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who would trust them?

    First this: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/ed...
    (bitcoin trust)

    Then this: http://www.investopedia.com/ar...
    (bitcoin payment system)

    Now this thing... ("regulated" exchange that can't leave the US for an international virtual decentralized currency...)

    Perhaps they just didn't get that memo about their relevance having tanked somewhere after they wanted to
    renege on their FB settlement and go for a do-over uh-gain:
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/...

    Their fifteen minutes of fame is up. The harder they try and bring themselves
    into relevance the funnier it gets. The bell has rung. Time to get off the stage little boys.

    E

    1. Re:Nobody should trust these scammers by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 2

      Oh come on. They're going to be regulated by the ultra-strict US banking regulations. Those poor bankers can't get away with ANYTHING.

    2. Re:Nobody should trust these scammers by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 3, Funny

      They should have just called their new product "Facecoin"

      Otherwise known as "money shot" - or so I've heard.

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    3. Re:Nobody should trust these scammers by spire3661 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Thats the thing. They could go on and just be happy successful businessmen, but noooo they have to be known....

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  5. Re: BTC Insured? by guruevi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The insurance is the least of their problems. For a good fee anything is insurable. The problem lies in the replacement. Banks/Feds/Insurance when losing money just replace the number in their databases or print the money, no insurance company nor bank nor the Feds actually has a reserve of cash to cover all their accounts in case of a massive hack that empties all their accounts. Not as easily done with cryptocurrency, once it is gone you can only replace it with more cryptocurrency. So you actually need to stash or be able to lend the insured amount instead of just relying on someone to bail you out with fake money.

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  6. Those links are intriguing as are by jpellino · · Score: 2

    their "about" page - which actually has a pic of an astronaut on fire strolling through NYC as their (inspiration?), or their "portfolio" page which lists all of their ventures, none of which are everyday brands. I would expect a less-off-putting / more reassuring "about" page and a more familiar set of ventures.

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  7. Re: BTC Insured? by Richard_at_work · · Score: 2

    Your lack of understanding about what goes on in financial institutions is disturbingly terrifying.

  8. Re: BTC Insured? by Time_Ngler · · Score: 2

    The lack of "understanding" of some poster on slashdot is so terrifying as to leave you mentally disturbed? Holy shit, how do you get out of bed in the morning?

  9. Re:So the twins want to open an exchange ... by Time_Ngler · · Score: 2

    A long time ago, gold was only used to make jewelry and trinkets, and few people had use for it. But it was rare, so demand always outstripped supply which meant the price stayed relatively high. It was also lightweight, durable, easy split, and comparatively easy to distinguish the real thing versus fakes. It was around the best store of value available in the day. So eventually people who had no need for it's original uses as jewelry, used it as such. This increased the amount of value a piece of gold could have, which in turn, increased its demand. Eventually this feedback loop slowed and came into equilabrium and this is how gold became so valuable today.

    Sure there are crashes and bubbles but the price of gold always is a premium over its use as a trade good, because it also is a convienent store of value.

    BTC also is useful to a small group of people, where bureaucratic red tape, high fees, and/or lack of trust makes trading with traditional currencies less convienent. And it too is useful as a store of value. You can hold 0.0001 as easily as 1 million BTC. You can transfer it quick and easily to anyone. You can even plausibly deny you own it. This gives it the status of best store of value for some use cases, today. So, I believe, eventually it, too, will go through same feedback loop that gold did.

  10. bitcoin is circling the drain, but.... by Ritz_Just_Ritz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If the Winkletwins want to hype it up long enough so that I can dispose of the last of my BTC stash while 1BTC is still over US$200, I'm game.

    Having bitcoins kept in a US bank seems to defeat the purpose of bitcoin, but it it helps me with my previous point, then by golly, full speed ahead.

  11. Re: So the twins want to open an exchange ... by Time_Ngler · · Score: 2

    But what about first mover advantage? The stability and security of bitcoin is far ahead of all the other crypto currencies.

  12. Re:Time to stop using bitcoin by ArcadeMan · · Score: 2

    I don't know which dumbass keeps modding me "overrated"... don't you know that people with an excellent karma automatically post with a score of 2?